A pregnant 13-year-old girl

Foxtrot said:
kmack said:
if you even belive in it QUOTE]
No my religion doesn't allow me to believe in it.

your religion doesn't allow you to believe in BIOLOGY. though that does explain your viewpoints and their lack of factual basis. im truley sorry for your sheltered existance.
 
kmack said:
Foxtrot said:
your religion doesn't allow you to believe in BIOLOGY. though that does explain your viewpoints and their lack of factual basis. im truley sorry for your sheltered existance.
I am an atheist :p
 
Atheists have no moral authority upon which to opine in these matters. This is not my opinion only. It is simply a statement of fact.
 
ModerateCentrist said:
Atheists have no moral authority upon which to opine in these matters.

who needs moral autority? and who are you to tell him what he can have an opinion on?
wait dont tell me, crusading against abortion, calling yourself a centrist, appalled by athiesm, must me a right wing bible hugger!

guess what buddy, the bible is myth :E you have no more moral authority to discuss this than anyone else.
 
kmack said:
you are a clown, its a freakin cluster of cells.
not to disagree, but aren't you a cluster of cells (or anybody else), basiclly?
ModerateCentrist said:
Atheists have no moral authority upon which to opine in these matters. .
you saying that atheists don't have consions?
 
Foxtrot said:
You are right, it would be much easier to crack its skull open and suck its brains out. I like the liberal way of thinking, taking the easy way out.


show me where they do that ...abortion is cut off at 24 weeks ..the baby is NOT able live on it's own as it's lungs are just starting to form ...at the time when abortion can first be preformed is at 9 weeks ...when the baby is the size of a grain of rice
 
CptStern said:
point to me where your link refutes what I say
Wow, you are pretty self-centered, show me in my post where I said your name? But ya it is in there, there are nice pictures too.
 
Foxtrot said:
Wow, you are pretty self-centered, show me in my post where I said your name? But ya it is in there, there are nice pictures too.

no there isnt, that link was useless to the argument i made.

good try though...
 
Foxtrot said:
Wow, you are pretty self-centered, show me in my post where I said your name? But ya it is in there, there are nice pictures too.


that link provides no information besides the stages of labour
 
Garfield_ said:
ohh we posted the exact same time KoreBolteR :>

you do know that if two people post at the same time at 6:25pm on a 2nd of may, they are instantly turned into gods. :cheers:

cheers fellow genius :eek:
 
ModerateCentrist, please don't post links like that again. If you must, at least give a warning. I've deleted your post
 
It's just a small cell ball, It will cause more harm than good if she gives birth to it.
 
MaxiKana said:
It's just a small cell ball, It will cause more harm than good if she gives birth to it.
well, you were a small cell ball at one time, and you can't say for sure if it's going to serve more harm than good,

we should defenetly have more respect for an undeveloped fetus, after all that is the seed of the whole human race
i think it's very wrong to refer to something so significan as "cell ball" or "cluster of cells" , as i said earlier, we are all cell balls or clusters of cells, with more cells though
 
Why is it that when a child does drugs, its because they go around with a "bad crowd". When a child is hurt in a car crash, its because the irresponsible parent didn't make them wear their seatbelt. But when a child gets pregnant, its because she's a f*cking slut whore who deserves every evil thing that happens to her in life?

The reason an age limit on alcohol, tobacco and sex exists is because we (adults) realise that children do not have the maturity to make these life altering decisions. The laws are there to protect our vulnerable. If 13 is bellow the age of consent, that means we recognise that it is not her fault. If you believe it is her fault, then you are agruing that 13 year olds are mature enough for the age of consent to come down to 13.
 
iyfyoufhl said:
well, you were a small cell ball at one time, and you can't say for sure if it's going to serve more harm than good,

we should defenetly have more respect for an undeveloped fetus, after all that is the seed of the whole human race
i think it's very wrong to refer to something so significan as "cell ball" or "cluster of cells" , as i said earlier, we are all cell balls or clusters of cells, with more cells though

Well this is a REALLY TINY cluster of about 100 cells, when we have about a few billion cells?

And it would screw up the mothers life, since she wouldn't be able to go to school, so she wouldn't be able to get a decent job, so her kid wouldn't be able to go to college unless some miracle happends.
 
PickledGecko said:
Why is it that when a child does drugs, its because they go around with a "bad crowd". When a child is hurt in a car crash, its because the irresponsible parent didn't make them wear their seatbelt. But when a child gets pregnant, its because she's a f*cking slut whore who deserves every evil thing that happens to her in life?

The reason an age limit on alcohol, tobacco and sex exists is because we (adults) realise that children do not have the maturity to make these life altering decisions. The laws are there to protect our vulnerable. If 13 is bellow the age of consent, that means we recognise that it is not her fault. If you believe it is her fault, then you are agruing that 13 year olds are mature enough for the age of consent to come down to 13.
you have to remeber and take into consideration the fact that this girl is a foster child (less guidenss, noone to look up to), she is not a slut, she is too little be a slut, she just grew up in the wrong envorment

MaxiKana said:
Well this is a REALLY TINY cluster of about 100 cells, when we have about a few billion cells?

And it would screw up the mothers life, since she wouldn't be able to go to school, so she wouldn't be able to get a decent job, so her kid wouldn't be able to go to college unless some miracle happends.

100 cells or billion cells is a reletivity matter, if a person is handycaped and has less cells (i know it's silly but just listen) does it mean he/she is less of a human life?


i think you are forgeting the adoption option
 
ModerateCentrist said:
Atheists have no moral authority upon which to opine in these matters. This is not my opinion only. It is simply a statement of fact.

You're a flippin' moron. Ta.
 
Old one I used to have. I quite liked it, really. Got a few hateful PMs for it. :D
 
She has to cope with raising the child, and her parents should be forced to too, you cant use abortion as a late contraception. These kids will only learn by facing the consequences of their actions and the parents should teach them about safe sex, the whole sexuality increase of teenagers (children) is terrible.

Over here in the Uk a boy of 13 refused to believe he'd contracted Aids, because he wasnt educated about it, nor the dangers of sex.
 
This girl is in a foster home, has been brought to court, has to undergo a psychological evaluation, is in the international news, and must either give birth or have an abortion. No matter what I think she's gonna learn her lesson.
 
iyfyoufhl said:
100 cells or billion cells is a reletivity matter, if a person is handycaped and has less cells (i know it's silly but just listen) does it mean he/she is less of a human life?


i think you are forgeting the adoption option

If my car is 999 million times smaller than your car, does that make my car less of a car than yours? YES IT FREEKING DOES.
 
MaxiKana said:
It's just a small cell ball, It will cause more harm than good if she gives birth to it.
If she is 3 months pregnant it is more than what you are making it out to be.
 
MaxiKana said:
If my car is 999 million times smaller than your car, does that make my car less of a car than yours? YES IT FREEKING DOES.
you just proved yourself wrong

oh, yeah, no need to get so "FREEKING" emotional
 
Foxtrot said:
If she is 3 months pregnant it is more than what you are making it out to be.

Well her life AND the kid's life would be ****ed if she gave birth to him/her.
 
Resting your argument solely on cell quantity is foolish, IMO.
 
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