Another DE:IW thread

[Frank]

And, PLEASE, use proper capitalization and sentence structure, Suicide, or at least something that resembles it. Not trying to be a flamer, it's just one of my pet peeves. Using proper English makes one seem much more intelligent, and viewpoints are therefore taken more seriously.

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[Sui]

The thing is, all the things that true canadian said hev actually been improved.
The length- i cant say. PLZ WILL SOME1 TELL ME HOW MUCH FURTHER THERE IS TO GO AFTER CYRO!!! in locations! just say '5' or somin, i really want to know how long the gaem is.
The charaters - Now there is a lot more emphasis on what faction u join and who u trust.
The story - i dont know yet but there are a hell of a lot of conspiracies going on there- that much is obvios. sounds like its gonna get better.
Gameplay - nothing has been removed to hinder the way you complete levels- there are still so many ways to complete a level, if not more due to the factions. Some levels are missed completely if you are allied to different people- meaning u can play it through again doing different things.
Augmentations -in a way this has replaced skills, as one canister can give access to any biomod- meaning u must really think about what you choose. I mean for one of the body parts you choose between seeing enhancement (see through walls) regenerate health (Very useful!) and making a spy/attack drone (thats really useful too!) meaning it depends on your choices, not which one you find first.
The weapons - also replacing skills is the weapon mods. will you silence your pistol, or increase its aim? will you put a silencer on you sniper rifle, or make it refire faster? Plus i dont know why everyone is whining about ammo. It means you really must use the gun that you want, and not just use a gun to kill guys because u have a superhuman ammount of ammo for it that u havent used.

And btw, stop judging the game on the demo. Seeing as they havent released it on the official website, and it looks really shit, its more like a beta than anything else.

and btw no. 2, i dont care if i dont use proper english! it would take ages to write this out as if i was writing an essay!!! im also really crap at typing fast- when i do so i make loads of mistakes, so lets just say i love the 'edit' button.

 

[Axyon]

And btw, stop judging the game on the demo. Seeing as they havent released it on the official website, and it looks really shit, its more like a beta than anything else.

and btw no. 2, i dont care if i dont use proper english! it would take ages to write this out as if i was writing an essay!!! im also really crap at typing fast- when i do so i make loads of mistakes, so lets just say i love the 'edit' button.

Honestly, why can't you let people have their own opinions? Just because you like a game doesn't mean everyone else has to. You're not going to convince me to like IW, because I've played parts of it, and it sucked.

 

[ComradeBadger]

I think it's good that Ion Storm are listening to their fans, and patching the game accordingly


It may all be ok

 

[Axyon]

I think it's good that Ion Storm are listening to their fans, and patching the game accordingly


It may all be ok

Well, they've not exactly done much in the many months it's been released now.

 

[Sui]

Honestly, why can't you let people have their own opinions? Just because you like a game doesn't mean everyone else has to. You're not going to convince me to like IW, because I've played parts of it, and it sucked.

i could say exactly the same thing for u. people allways say "ur not letting me have my opinions" when someone tries to say something is good, but ur doing just the same thing by saying deus ec IW is crap. in ur posts i have seen no hint whatsoever that DE:IW is good in any way, not one time. Well it is, isnt it? u cant possibly say that EVERYTHING of the game is crap- and yet ur acting like it is. I have never offended anyone with this thread, nor have i forced anyone to agree with me. Every time someone says "this part IS shit" im saying "but theres good in that too". Just because i persist in trying to say that the game isnt shit, it doesnt mean im worse than the people who persist in saying it is shit.

just incase i have offended anyone with this thread,
/me apoligises

You're not going to convince me to like IW, because I've played parts of it, and it sucked.

this is the kind of thing im saying. i could say right now
"ur not letting me have my opinions- cant u just accept that some of the game is good?"
but i wont.
*edit* im feeling rather nervous here- arguing with a mod :S

 

[Axyon]

i could say exactly the same thing for u. people allways say "ur not letting me have my opinions" when someone tries to say something is good, but ur doing just the same thing by saying deus ec IW is crap. in ur posts i have seen no hint whatsoever that DE:IW is good in any way, not one time. Well it is, isnt it? u cant possibly say that EVERYTHING of the game is crap- and yet ur acting like it is. I have never offended anyone with this thread, nor have i forced anyone to agree with me. Every time someone says "this part IS shit" im saying "but theres good in that too". Just because i persist in trying to say that the game isnt shit, it doesnt mean im worse than the people who persist in saying it is shit.

just incase i have offended anyone with this thread,
/me apoligises

What can I say I liked about it? The only real thing is that at least JC and Paul make an appearance, but that's probably about it. How about you start reeling off some negatives of IW, then?

 

[Sui]

How about you start reeling off some negatives of IW, then?

i have. read the thread.
*edit* U MEET JC??? COOOOOLLL!!! W00T W00T YAY IM GONNA PLAY IT ALL TODAY!!! do u get to ask him questions? hope so!!!

 

[dawdler]

Bleh, I'm... borrowing it... from a... friend... yes... that got fed up with it, so I can see for myself how it is outside the demo. If I actually finish the game, I will probably be the one most surprised.

Just need to find that texture pack, otherwise someone has to stand by to call 911... And have an eyewash quickly available, I dont want to go blind.

 

[Sui]

Bleh, I'm... borrowing it... from a... friend... yes... that got fed up with it, so I can see for myself how it is outside the demo. If I actually finish the game, I will probably be the one most surprised.

Just need to find that texture pack, otherwise someone has to stand by to call 911... And have an eyewash quickly available, I dont want to go blind.

ok, im not arguing here, im just simply saying- while i play the game i thought the graphics were amazing. its like imagine if u were playing HL2 (this is an example- im not saying its that good!) and u went to a forum and everyone suddenly said comments like that. Either all of u are going mad, or i am. I mean, look at the picture i posted. look at them, and tell me those are crap. theyre not! theyre as good as far cry!!
and people keep saying the phisics engine is pointless. i can understand it when people say they dont like the gameplay, or the plot, or the 'universal ammo', but i cant see why people dont like the phisics. whats wrong with it? i nkow everything looks really light, but can u honestly say u dont enjoy chucking rubish bins at security bots and watching them 'make a file of u'? i mean, am i the only person who finds games fun here? some1 said max payne 2 had crap phisics as well. whats wrong with them? its blooming fun! i played with one bucket for 10 minutes doing kick ups!!!
oh and btw im nor saying "the phisics ARE good" (well, i suppose i am :/ ) i am actually ASKING what is wrong with them. i really want to know y people hate what i love!!!!

 

[Sorze]

I played the demo before I played the real game, so, a bit of impressions...

The demo, I kinda liked. I decided I'd just kill all those people so after awhile I hacked a computer somewhere and let the turrets do all the dirtywork. So all the "bad guys" died, I said "Pwned!1!", and the demo was over, and I kinda liked it.

A while afterwards I played the full game... I had seen some reviews at this point, all really good scores.

I'm not sure exactly why, but DX:IW didn't captivate me in any way at all!
I played it for, what, maybe 3-4 hours, and all the time I was muttering under my breath "Just a little more, it's bound to become fun in a little while...", but it just never did for me.
I've played the first DX (a year ago maybe), but I never finished it, and it wasn't such a huge classic for me. So I simply tackled DX2 like a game (without any screwed up expectations), but it still wasn't any fun, and according to me, thus not a good game. All the good things about a game really becomes moot points if you still don't want to play the game, yknow..?



But what I don't understand is why everybody is dissing all parts of this game. I think the graphics were pretty sweet! The textures weren't awesome everywere but the lighting and the characters were pretty great IMO.
There were no particular flaws in the sound or control department either, and so it all comes down to "feel" and preferences... And that's where Ion Storm fails, I think.

I think it could've become awesome if they had gotten more time.

Example: My rig: Pentium 4 2.4Ghz
1024Mb Ram
Geforce 4 Ti 4600

DX2 would not run over 13 fps on any settings!
Then I downloaded a DX2 "tweakfile", about 200kb big, and then I could run pretty much max settings, with perfectly respectable fps!!
I mean wtf??? If it was that easy to optimize, they could've done it before they released the damn game!


Ps. My gaming mag here in Sweden "Super Play" (AWESOME mag!) gave the game like 3 out of 10 or something. They said basically what I just typed (this was after I played it), and I think it was nice some professional reviewers had the balls to give it a low score too, since lots of publications/sites gave it great scores (IGN gave it a good score right?)..

People are different you know... You liked it obviously, good for you Suicide42, but lot's of people don't..

Now let this thread rest in peace...

 

[Sui]

hmmm.... sorze, what can i say? i really dont care whether people find the game fun or not, or dislike the game etc. but its when people say the graphics are shit that kindof confuses me, because they simply arent. So far i applaud the people who have stated that they dislike the game without being reduced to simply stating the minor elements like so many other people. Some people were almost agressive when they found out i liked the game, clearly stating that it WAS crap, but im pleased that i have has some replies of people actually saying the truth, not untrue facts (like the graphics are crap).
and i agree- there have been over 50 posts here, (the highest ever in my threads) and i think it needs a (perminant) rest...

 

[dawdler]

Now I've tried the full game... And all I can say is OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its *worse* than the demo, argh!!! And that is with the hires texture pack and latest patch installed. Sure, I will continue playing (only got out of Tarsus so far, so I'm only at the beginning). But what the hell where they thinking?! Its buttugly (true Quake style levels) just about everywhere except a select few spots. Not to mention is the slowest engine I've *ever* played, and I've played Halo. But the worst is immersion. Absolutely nothing is alive the world. And the characters without weapon (ie your friends) stand in true 3DSMAX default biped poses, something that *never* should make it into a game, and to be honest I've *never* seen before. And why on earth do the entire body have to shift when you look at someone?! It looks ridiculus when 2 people are talking with short sentences!

Personally, just playing those 20 minutes or so (and I have to restart a few times to actually get it to playable settings), I think they've violated every damn game design rule in the book. I'm still gonna (try) to play through the thing, to get the whole picture.

Sidenote: It will never need a rest, BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAA!!! Seriously, this is what forums is about.

 

[Sui]

Now I've tried the full game... And all I can say is OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its *worse* than the demo, argh!!! And that is with the hires texture pack and latest patch installed. Sure, I will continue playing (only got out of Tarsus so far, so I'm only at the beginning). But what the hell where they thinking?! Its buttugly (true Quake style levels) just about everywhere except a select few spots. Not to mention is the slowest engine I've *ever* played, and I've played Halo. But the worst is immersion. Absolutely nothing is alive the world. And the characters without weapon (ie your friends) stand in true 3DSMAX default biped poses, something that *never* should make it into a game, and to be honest I've *never* seen before. And why on earth do the entire body have to shift when you look at someone?! It looks ridiculus when 2 people are talking with short sentences!

Personally, just playing those 20 minutes or so (and I have to restart a few times to actually get it to playable settings), I think they've violated every damn game design rule in the book. I'm still gonna (try) to play through the thing, to get the whole picture.

Sidenote: It will never need a rest, BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAA!!! Seriously, this is what forums is about.

o.k., number one, calm down, u soind like an idiot. numbr 2, get the patches wich drastically improve the game. Number 3, the graphics are great and u need a new pc.

 

[Axyon]

o.k., number one, calm down, u soind like an idiot. numbr 2, get the patches wich drastically improve the game. Number 3, the graphics are great and u need a new pc.

He already said he had the patches. Unless you're referring to community-made patches that shouldn't really be needed, but are because the development team's done nothing to improve the game's awful condition...

 

[dawdler]

o.k., number one, calm down, u soind like an idiot. numbr 2, get the patches wich drastically improve the game. Number 3, the graphics are great and u need a new pc.

1: I am calm. Or rather, I was calm before starting to play.
2: Read the post. I got the patches, and the tweaker, and the high resolution texture pack.
3: I have a 2400+ with a 9700 Pro.

And we constantly come back to the graphics. Can you tell me *why* they are so great? Realtime shadows perhaps? Very mediocre, they could easily have done without it and lost *zero* detail (actually we probably could have seen twice the polycounts on screen without it, sigh...). Or is it the Quake III style block modelling you like so much? Or the subpar characters with twitchy animations and so sterotypic poses it looks like someone showed a stick up their assess?

 

[Axyon]

Let's not mention the atrocious physics as well.

 

[dawdler]

Let's not mention the atrocious physics as well.

I dont think on the physics that much, but yeah its not particularly well designed. And whats up with the deathtwitch/spin/jump of the enemies?! They could probably patent that as a new dance or something.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Alright everyone, calm down. Personally I like pointless physics. When HL2 finally comes out I know that I for one will spend the first hour of playing just throwing boxes around, rolling barrels into piles of chairs and generally messing around. The amount of fun I had just in the demo throwing bodies around (if you want an easy three-step guide to getting bodies in boxes just ask). The lighting doesn't add much I will admit. On my relatively high-end system it ran very smooth and the graphics seemed rather good to me. Maybe it was just that it was very dark, but I don't remember thinking anything on the lines of 'that is butt-ugly'.
To be honest, I love the demo so much I'm going to buy the game. While I agree that the layout of the demo-area is both un-city-like and criminally underpopulated, I've been told the full game version is different. It had better be, though I'll still buy the game.

 

[Axyon]

Alright everyone, calm down. Personally I like pointless physics. When HL2 finally comes out I know that I for one will spend the first hour of playing just throwing boxes around, rolling barrels into piles of chairs and generally messing around. The amount of fun I had just in the demo throwing bodies around (if you want an easy three-step guide to getting bodies in boxes just ask).

I didn't say pointless physics, I said atrocious physics. They're awful, everything seems to weigh the same and people that get shot will fall over in the most unrealistic and feather-like way. Bad, bad, bad :/

 

[clarky003]

man these people slating DE: IW make me laugh , cause all they ever wanted was a sequel equal in material playability as the first, they never got it .. yet the game still sold like hotcakes, and is still lots of fun. Teehee what can we do, how about appreciating it for what it is, and be a little less childish about the fantasy that never was.

 

[Sulkdodds]

In reference to ABom, earlier someone said pointless physics. I wasn't refering to your post. I suppose I've only played the demo and there aren't that many different types of object, but I foudn personally that throwing a beer barrel felt different to throwing a bottle and both reacted as I would have expected them to...in a game at least. As for people, I'm a pacifist so I really wouldn't know.

 

[dawdler]

As for people, I'm a pacifist so I really wouldn't know.

Try shooting someone
The AI dont care. I accidently hacked into an ATM (didnt think on it at the time, but I had that biomod installed and you dont get any option not to hack it). The guard behind me got all hysterical (even though I aborted the attempt) and everyone in the room turned hostile, so I shot them all, even civilians. When I went out, I found two other guards. They greeted me despite the blood bath (fully visible from where they stood). Bleh.

The only fun in the physics is stacking up on lots of food (like 15+) and then drop it all at the same time watching them fall down. The rest... Lets just say its very possible to take a bigass vase probably weighing 50kg and run around with it like its a feather. Or a bed of some sorts I literally pushed aside like it was a 2x2m empty paper box, I was shocked to see it move, it looked that heavy!

Max Payne 2 did this *ALOT* better I might add, and physics was woefully underused there! Not to mention it was much prettier. And roughly 10 times faster (ever tried playing IW at 1600x1200 with 6xAA/16xAF? That's how good the MP2 engine is.). And it had alot bigger levels to boot. If there is anyone saying IW beats MP2 in graphics, I'll bite them. Seriously.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Well, I've never seen AI do that in DE:IW, but I know what you mean about the physics. To be honest, I don't care. Physics are an extra. I'm in it for the moral uncertainty and the freedom. Or am I just in it to throw sleeping bodies around?

 

[Sui]

Try shooting someone
The AI dont care. I accidently hacked into an ATM (didnt think on it at the time, but I had that biomod installed and you dont get any option not to hack it). The guard behind me got all hysterical (even though I aborted the attempt) and everyone in the room turned hostile, so I shot them all, even civilians. When I went out, I found two other guards. They greeted me despite the blood bath (fully visible from where they stood). Bleh.

The only fun in the physics is stacking up on lots of food (like 15+) and then drop it all at the same time watching them fall down. The rest... Lets just say its very possible to take a bigass vase probably weighing 50kg and run around with it like its a feather. Or a bed of some sorts I literally pushed aside like it was a 2x2m empty paper box, I was shocked to see it move, it looked that heavy!

Max Payne 2 did this *ALOT* better I might add, and physics was woefully underused there! Not to mention it was much prettier. And roughly 10 times faster (ever tried playing IW at 1600x1200 with 6xAA/16xAF? That's how good the MP2 engine is.). And it had alot bigger levels to boot. If there is anyone saying IW beats MP2 in graphics, I'll bite them. Seriously.

I think i speak for everyone when i say that no-one really cares if the phisics are bad unless you are a serios critic. The graphics are fine as they are, you would only dislike them if you are really really fussy. And so what if lighting is easy? it looks good!
Plus, i have never ever EVER played a game where i have seen a bartender clean a glass. To me, this game is normal because there are no games out there that have realistic movements. Max payne 2, far cry... you name it, all the gaurds just stand there and talk. no cleaning glasses.
Plus, the reason those gaurds didnt cre you killed someone is because THEY DIDNT KNOW ABOUT IT!!! try throwing the body in front of them, theyll say "oh my lord, a body," then run around looking for evidence.
From what you have been posting it is very clear you have been sticking your head in too many halflife 2 articles, and if you expect all games to be up to its standards, you are going to be very dissapointed for a long time. Deus ex was criticised as it is the first "new age" game to appear. If far cry had an amazing prequel everyone would be moaning about that too.
seriosly, lighten up a bit. just because deus ex isnt perfectly realistic in any way it doent mean you should go around the thread posting insults at it. At least in my posts i have been trying to defent something with new reasons, everyone who says its bad have been repeating exactly the same insults as on page 1, just with more agression. Please tell me why the things u r saying are bad or dont post.
And btw, if u want any help with the insults, have you noticed all the player heads are the same, justwith different accessories and hair? all the girls have exactly the same shape of face. But i dont really care because its a computor game, not a VR simulation.

 

[Narcolepsy]

I think i speak for everyone when i say that no-one really cares if the phisics are bad unless you are a serios critic.

Hate to burst your bubble, but I think this thread proves that some people do care!

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Suicide42:

With all due respect. You shouldn't go arround saying that dawdler knows little about games.

He knows alot more than you mostl likely.

Oh and I aint suckng up to the mod lol. I could't care less. But I think I should defend him here because I think he is right.


The AI SUX. You can shoot this thing in the demo so that flames errupt from it. The guards in the area imediatly hear the noise of the flames and walk over to investigate (Good AI). They then promtly walk into the flames and catch fire and run arround then die. This then alerts the other guards who run to the same spot and catch fire as well. (This is bad AI)


VERY bad AI




Bah, there were so many inconsistancies with it I can't even be arsed to type them.



I was a HUGE fan of deus ex. But this game is a slap in the face to the orriginal in my opinion.


Oh and another thing. The thing runs like shit!


I would expect the game to run on high details on my PC which is more than capable of running Max Payne Two on highest settings Twice over with no problems.

But no?! It runs like shit. It stutters and looks crap allong with the levels being stupidly small!!



Just for the record. Mp PC:
3.2ghz
1024mb RAM
128 MB ATI RADEON PRO

Other high end stuff I won't bother to type about. But you get the idea.

 

[Sui]

Hate to burst your bubble, but I think this thread proves that some people do care!

ahem, i said serios critics. from their agression and violence in the tone when they posted, you can guess i was implying something.

And i know im the main one arguing (where are all my supporters? darn, they abandonned me... sulkdodds... you like me dont you...??) but can we steer the topic away from the faults (i think we have said enough to state our rather extrimist veiws on either side ) and talk about what we did enjoy. Please, dont act like children anymore, i KNOW you hate the game, theres no need to continue the trend of saying everythings crap. And abom, there must be something u like about it? meeting (u know who) cant be the only thing you like. and i was quite suprised, seeing the very mod who posts the 'no spoilers' warning posting a spoiler :O

ok, heres the list of the things i thought were really cool: (there are no spoilers here, but if you wish to keep every last detail a secret dont read)
Multiple choices. It would have been so easy to just make sid black the only pilot, but adding a more mysterios one really makes the game so much more immersive.
The plot: Come on! woth so many twists and turns, old characters that you meet and strange, dark organisations is impossible to feel that this game has a wonderful plot!
The new system of skills: i personally think that Biomods and weapon mods are an improvement over skills. Skills just felt a little like the easy way to give player origonality- making the player suddenly improve everything after certain objectives.
The attention to detail: Firstly, theres the pop star, NC, who they have recorded load of origonal and (rather catchy) songs for. Then theres all the tiny sub plots. little missions, some of witch give you no bonus except the warm feeling inside your heart that you did something right. theres also the tiny little hints at deus ex 1 to please the fans (no spoilers)!! and a hell of a lot of TINY details that you can only see if your looking for...

plus theres loads more i was thinking of when i was playing the game, but have forgotten and so i will add them b4 15 minutes is up :/
Add more!!! please!!!

*edit* wow, thats a monster of a beast u have there marksman. i ahev the same but with 512ram and 2.8 ghz. Mine runs fine, dunno y.
and yes, he knows more about games than me- a lot more, but i dont like the way u r jumping to conclusions simply because i dont like DE:IW. u had no possible idea how much i know about games!
and the intention of this thread never was to be a giant argument... i guess it says a lot about the posters here.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Heheh, I don't hate you mate.

I just strongly disagree in most cases



I do however agree that the multiple choices idea and the story in general look excelent.

I just don't like the feel of the game if you know what i mean...

 

[Narcolepsy]

Hey, I am one of your supporters.
But there's really no point in having a thread based soley on the good points. You said it's good, and it sparked a debate. Without the debate, the thread would be nothing. And there's nothing wrong with a heated debate - it's kind what modern government is based on.

 

[Sui]

Hey, I am one of your supporters.
But there's really no point in having a thread based soley on the good points. You said it's good, and it sparked a debate. Without the debate, the thread would be nothing. And there's nothing wrong with a heated debate - it's kind what modern government is based on.

well, tbh, i secretly wanted to see just how much people in these forums hated DE:IW. i knew it was a lot, but ive had some pretty UNNECISSARILY offencive replies. And anyway, weve had enough 'debate' in this thread. i just want people to admit that DE:IW isnt a peice of crap. So far everyone is stating minor points. sigh... its probally an impossible task. too many people judge the game just by the demo.
and im not meaning any offence to anyone in these threads, im just trying to win over some people, if you know what i mean. i just find it suprising that everyone hates the game and i am enjoying it SO much- i literrally cant stop playing it! i have it minimised in the background right now! im in germany, btw.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

I am judgeing the demo. But thats because the demo is suppost to make me want to buy the game. And quite simply It didn't. It actually made me not buy it when I was going to b4 hand....


And for that reason, I can't judge the full game. Because I never bought it.... for the above reasons..... lol :upstare:

 

[clarky003]

is dawdler the god of all games critics? I never experianced anything like that. weird, I guess its just not your game, .. you might try stacking real life objects, that might be more fun for you

 

[Sui]

I am judgeing the demo. But thats because the demo is suppost to make me want to buy the game. And quite simply It didn't. It actually made me not buy it when I was going to b4 hand....


And for that reason, I can't judge the full game. Because I never bought it.... for the above reasons..... lol :upstare:

have u noticed the demo isnt out o the official site? i think its because they never intended it to be something that promotes the game, they just wanted feedback. wow, and they got a hell of a lot. But what im trying to say is the demo was more of a beta, and the full game SHOUL NOT be judged by the demo. i thought the demo wat good, but i thought the real game was a lot better.
but dont get me wrong- if you just generally dislike the demo and or deus ex 2, you probally wont like the game
and marksman, i thought u mean tthe full game ran crap. that explains it- the demo was compressed to save space- i got this thing where all the characters (apart from looking shit) had little specs all over them, and the game ran laggy and stuff. No sign of that in the game.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Hmmmm....


I might consider buying it then.


I was a huge fan of the orriginal like I said and I do wan't to play the game. But I don't know if it is worth my money. And I don't have money to waste at the moment.


I will re read a few reviews later and decide some other time.

But thanks for the responce.

I thought it was strange that the demo was having problems on my pc...

 

[Axyon]

Another plus is that the Kidney Thieves are in it. But we're pretty much at the end of the list of good things now.

 

[dawdler]

Plus, the reason those gaurds didnt cre you killed someone is because THEY DIDNT KNOW ABOUT IT!!!

*The following scene took place in early morning Seattle*

*some hacking noise*

Guard: "Hold it right there!"
*RATATATATBANGBANGSPLAT*
Civilian: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAH!!!"
Civilian #2: "EEEEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEH!!!!"

*In another room 10m from the incident*
Guard #2: "Did you hear something? That rooms interior is flashing alot."
Guard #3: "I cant hear anything?"

*back in the incident room*
*BOOOOOOOOOMRATATATATATBANGBANG*
Guard: "Uuuuuugh..."
*Guard flips over 2 times in midair and lands in a position a piece of rubber would be proud of*
Civilian: "No... NOOOOOOOO!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
*BANGBANGBANGBANG*
Civilian #2: "OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD!!!!! AAAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEH!!!"
*DUNKDUNKDUNKSPLAT*

Guard #2: "Was that a scream? Naw, dont think so."
Guard #3: "Its probably a drill."

*A woman carrying a shotgun walks out the room*
Me: "Excuse me guys, but I... Fell on my face and got all bloody, where's the bathroom?"
Guard #2: "Down the hall miss, first to the right."
Guard #3: "Have a nice day!"

 

[Sui]

maybe the guards just wanted to be polite.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Lol. Well, that never happened to me and last night I ditched my pacifist tendancies and ran around the Heron's Loft building with an smg and a flamethrower. When I killed the guard outside the ones on the roof did not react but then I did kill him down in the alleyway...then I climbed up the ladder and shot the two guards on the roof...and everyone went crazy. Of course, I could be wrong. Face it, Suicide. Some people just don't like it. Hey, I don't like GT3 much and even I'll admit it's a bloody amazing game. If only it had physics that were fun instead of realistic...

Waitasec...KIDNEY THEIVES? I'm buying it now!

 

[AmishSlayer]

I... *ahem*... d/led it...and was happy I didn't buy it.

I haven't played the first..but IW didn't appeal to me. First off...the way I look at the game...it's not so much an RPG...but an FPS with choices. You only upgrade and develop whatever biomods you want to given you have the proper canisters. "Quests" just get you cash for items. I found combat to be pretty simple and unexciting. There are ultimately 4 different endings no matter how you play through the game (each of which I thought lacked...explaining and backing). I was just plain bored going through it...

Graphics were kinda weak if you ask me. The only thing actually special about them was the dynamic lighting system...which is being implemented in numerous games nowadays.

I went through it simply for the fact I wanted to be able to say I have...so I could express my opinions with validity here and to others..that and I was giving the story a chance to improve...which I thought it didn't do so well.

From what I've heard...Deus Ex 1 was better...and I still might check that out if I get bored sometime...

Right now I've got other things on my mind....like FarCry....and Splinter Cell....and college chicks.....and sexy parties...and rock 'em sock 'em robots....and spyrographs...