BF2 Thread

Foxtrot said:
This was last year, it was about $200 on newegg and it still is.
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yeah I know... I just didn't think you wanted it to drop further than $300 off of the initial price.

for $200 the 9800 pro is a steal (imo) especially if you had something really shitty before, it was the first card that I could play those high resolutions (1280x1024, when previously I could hardly play in 1024x768) with 4xAA and 4xAF on (more in most cases).

the price drop was last year, but it co-incided with the release of the next high performance ATI card. (well the 9800xt wasn't really that huge a difference so I can imagine why it didn't drop when that card was released)
 
Dalamari said:
I'm posting from school, yay!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyways, yeah....
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Haha you are in school, nub. Get SS2 so we can play on coop tonight.
 
AmishSlayer said:
lol, there's a thread over at the totalbf2 forums where people are getting really bent out of shape over the AK reload animation where the guy flips over his magazine pack too many times...

http://forums.totalbf2.com/showthread.php?t=4490

Some people are extremely picky.
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I absolutely loved the AK reload... it has awesome character to it, and is really fluid.

sure he has two "recharging" clips taped together that magically refill themselves when it comes time to flip them, but I would rather it be that animation than just lowering the clip and raising it again.... cmon people on Bf2 forum... <3
 
Mr. Redundant said:
I absolutely loved the AK reload... it has awesome character to it, and is really fluid.

sure he has two "recharging" clips taped together that magically refill themselves when it comes time to flip them, but I would rather it be that animation than just lowering the clip and raising it again.... cmon people on Bf2 forum... <3
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Exactly what I thought. I think the magazines taped together was already pretty sweet.

This is what I said in that thread:

Me said:
Ok...if you're getting upset about bullets coming out of nowhere, then why aren't you getting upset about a wrench singlehandedly fixing any vehicle in a few seconds, a medic in a vehicle magically healing everyone in a radius, people popping in from nowhere by their squad leader 15 seconds after dying, these mysterious soldiers that know how to navigate and use weapons on any naval ship, fly any helicopter, fly any jet fighter, and drive and fire a tank etc...

It's a VERY minor detail among many unrealistic aspects of the game that some people are just getting way too bent out of shape over...
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AmishSlayer said:
Exactly what I thought. I think the magazines taped together was already pretty sweet.

This is what I said in that thread:
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yep, people can argue about some silly shit sometimes... then again we did the same thing about aspects of Hl2 when it was coming out heheh.
 
Hmm this whole performance thing - check this thread here - http://forums.totalbf2.com/showthread.php?t=4550

IGN have the game apparently - and this was a question asked and response:
"How is the perfomance when settings/resolution is maxed?

With a 6800 GT, gig of PC3200, and a 3.0 GHz P4, it runs perfectly at 1280x960, 4xAA, all FX maxxed."

Sounds good to me.
 
JiMmEh said:
Hmm this whole performance thing - check this thread here - http://forums.totalbf2.com/showthread.php?t=4550

IGN have the game apparently - and this was a question asked and response:
"How is the perfomance when settings/resolution is maxed?

With a 6800 GT, gig of PC3200, and a 3.0 GHz P4, it runs perfectly at 1280x960, 4xAA, all FX maxxed."

Sounds good to me.
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I don't think IGN knew what they were talking about though.
 
Foxtrot said:
I don't think IGN knew what they were talking about though.
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Meh, I still think that's more accurate than a X800, 1GB RAM and a 3GHz P4 having to play at 1024x768 with medium detail settings. I don't think BF2 will be that system intensive.
 
So maybe with my 9800XT and 3.2 ghz P4 and 1 gig of ram I can max out most settings too...with aa and af!!! I have cs:s running with max aa, max af, and high everything on 1024X768 (or whatever that 2nd # is). I get a solid 40 FPS constantly with the occasional drop below 30 when too much shit is happening.

So on BF2 Im sure with everyhting on high, 1024, aa on 4, and af on whatever...ill be able to pass with very good fps and no slow down...i hope.

If anyone knows if im wrong or not please let me know how it will perform...im not very knowledgable on this subject.
 
MilkMan12 said:
So maybe with my 9800XT and 3.2 ghz P4 and 1 gig of ram I can max out most settings too...with aa and af!!! I have cs:s running with max aa, max af, and high everything on 1024X768 (or whatever that 2nd # is). I get a solid 40 FPS constantly with the occasional drop below 30 when too much shit is happening.

So on BF2 Im sure with everyhting on high, 1024, aa on 4, and af on whatever...ill be able to pass with very good fps and no slow down...i hope.

If anyone knows if im wrong or not please let me know how it will perform...im not very knowledgable on this subject.
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I doubt you will be able to run on max settings with the 9800XT, but I guess we will see, system specs have been flying all over and there is no way to tell what is accurate and what isnt.
 
"How is the perfomance when settings/resolution is maxed?
What are the specs on the computer you're running it on? What resolution are you playing it on and how does it run?
Hey can you mention the specs of the machine you were playing it on, and what res you were using?

These are approximations, but based on the various systems we've played it on:

1.8GHz, 64MB video RAM, 512k RAM - 1024x768, low details (still looks good, btw)

2GHz, 128MB video RAM, 1GB RAM - 1280 x 960, medium details

3GHz, 256MB video RAM, 1GB RAM - everything maxed (the videos you're seeing)"

There we go then, IGN do know what they're talking about, and I'm greatly inclined to believe what's quoted above. It makes sense - BF2 looks nice, but it's no behemoth that demands bumpmapping on every surface and whathaveyou. Only being able to reach medium detail on current-gen cards doesn't make sense at all.
 
Yeah, those are the most logical specs I've see too. It lines up with what should be expected from a current generation game.
 
MilkMan12 said:
So maybe with my 9800XT and 3.2 ghz P4 and 1 gig of ram I can max out most settings too...with aa and af!!! I have cs:s running with max aa, max af, and high everything on 1024X768 (or whatever that 2nd # is). I get a solid 40 FPS constantly with the occasional drop below 30 when too much shit is happening.

So on BF2 Im sure with everyhting on high, 1024, aa on 4, and af on whatever...ill be able to pass with very good fps and no slow down...i hope.

If anyone knows if im wrong or not please let me know how it will perform...im not very knowledgable on this subject.
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The Source engine for CS:S is very different from the one being used in BF2. Just because you may be able to push CS to max settings doesn't necessarily mean that you can do the same to BF2.

Now, lets break it down here. You are getting about 40fps with and occasional drop when too much "shit" is happening. 30-40fps is very playable and its what a lot of console games run at. However, with a PC there are a lot more graphical options to pick from such as AA, AF, resolutions, texture quality, draw distance, etc. As you up each one, it naturally takes up more computing power. Knowing that, it'd be more impressive if you were running the same settings at 60fps though. In that case, you might have a chance of tackling some of the higher settings in BF2.

Lets get one thing straight though. Your system is by no means a bad setup. Its a very solid computer by todays standards. With BF2 though, we're starting to merge into the next gen of graphics. That being said, most of us will have to tone down the settings a bit to run at a decent framerate.

If you're hungry for some AA, AF and high settings, you may want to invest in a better graphics card. New cards are coming out all the time. Check into the graphics card arena to see how things work and what card is the most powerful at the moment.

Keep one thing in mind though. No benchmarks have been released yet showing, in detail, the results of different hardware. I could be totally wrong about your setup and you might be able to run a lot of stuff at high settings or I could be right on the money with my opinion. Only time will tell.
 
satch919 said:
The Source engine for CS:S is very different from the one being used in BF2. Just because you may be able to push CS to max settings doesn't necessarily mean that you can do the same to BF2.

Now, lets break it down here. You are getting about 40fps with and occasional drop when too much "shit" is happening. 30-40fps is very playable and its what a lot of console games run at. However, with a PC there are a lot more graphical options to pick from such as AA, AF, resolutions, texture quality, draw distance, etc. As you up each one, it naturally takes up more computing power. Knowing that, it'd be more impressive if you were running the same settings at 60fps though. In that case, you might have a chance of tackling some of the higher settings in BF2.

Lets get one thing straight though. Your system is by no means a bad setup. Its a very solid computer by todays standards. With BF2 though, we're starting to merge into the next gen of graphics. That being said, most of us will have to tone down the settings a bit to run at a decent framerate.

If you're hungry for some AA, AF and high settings, you may want to invest in a better graphics card. New cards are coming out all the time. Check into the graphics card arena to see how things work and what card is the most powerful at the moment.

Keep one thing in mind though. No benchmarks have been released yet showing, in detail, the results of different hardware. I could be totally wrong about your setup and you might be able to run a lot of stuff at high settings or I could be right on the money with my opinion. Only time will tell.
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Thanks for the in depth reply. That makes a lot of sense now. I just hope the game looks almost as good as the videos when I play it. Probably not though. Whatever maybe medium settings are not that bad...we shall see.

Like 2 months after I got this comp I saw that they were selling my same comp for cheaper with an X800 XT instead of 9800XT. Pissed me the **** off...if only I waited 2 months. Whatever.

By the way what is the graphics arena you are talking about?
 
MilkMan12 said:
Thanks for the in depth reply. That makes a lot of sense now. I just hope the game looks almost as good as the videos when I play it. Probably not though. Whatever maybe medium settings are not that bad...we shall see.

Like 2 months after I got this comp I saw that they were selling my same comp for cheaper with an X800 XT instead of 9800XT. Pissed me the **** off...if only I waited 2 months. Whatever.

By the way what is the graphics arena you are talking about?
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No problem.

Take a look at this:

"How is the perfomance when settings/resolution is maxed?
What are the specs on the computer you're running it on? What resolution are you playing it on and how does it run?
Hey can you mention the specs of the machine you were playing it on, and what res you were using?

These are approximations, but based on the various systems we've played it on:

1.8GHz, 64MB video RAM, 512k RAM - 1024x768, low details (still looks good, btw)

2GHz, 128MB video RAM, 1GB RAM - 1280 x 960, medium details

3GHz, 256MB video RAM, 1GB RAM - everything maxed (the videos you're seeing)"

That was from the latest Q&A session with one of the guys at IGN.com. So, it appears that you might be able to run it at high settings after all. Maybe not with the maxed out AA and AF though. :p

When I was talking about the graphics arena, I was talking about sites that specialize in reviewing computer hardware and such. Perhaps I should have used the word "community" instead of "arena". So again, check out the graphics card community to see whats in. I'd suggest going to tomshardware.com and rage3d.com. Both are very informative. Don't hesitate to ask questions on their forums either. And of course, I'd be happy to help you out as well. :thumbs:

EDIT - And one more thing. You might want to consider checking with the company that assembled your computer to see if they might exchange your graphics card for a newer one seeing as it came out only 2 months afterward. Some companies allow you to trade one in for a newer card with half off the orginal price.
 
Thanks AmishSlayer and JiMmEh for those Q&A's :)

although I want this game NOW!!!, especially since multiple people have confirmed the floaty combat feel is gone, they compare it to CS:Source in terms of combat feel (which is extremely good, the HL and Hl2 engines have the best fps feel bar-none)
 
Cool snippet from that interview I just posted - :D

"<<COR>>Zolly: I would like to know more about the special weapons one can unlock while advancing on the global ranking system. What ranks will there be, and what weapons will become available with each rank?

Ben Smith: Players progress through common "enlisted" Ranks from the US Army (private first class, corporal and on up) as they play, and with most promotions they will get a choice to unlock one of seven kit weapons (one unique weapon for each of the seven kits in Battlefield 2). We're keeping these weapons to ourselves until launch, for the most part, but you can expect some fairly interesting variations on the primary kit weapons (special shotguns, assault rifles, submachine guns, etc.)."
 
JiMmEh said:
Cool snippet from that interview I just posted - :D

"<<COR>>Zolly: I would like to know more about the special weapons one can unlock while advancing on the global ranking system. What ranks will there be, and what weapons will become available with each rank?

Ben Smith: Players progress through common "enlisted" Ranks from the US Army (private first class, corporal and on up) as they play, and with most promotions they will get a choice to unlock one of seven kit weapons (one unique weapon for each of the seven kits in Battlefield 2). We're keeping these weapons to ourselves until launch, for the most part, but you can expect some fairly interesting variations on the primary kit weapons (special shotguns, assault rifles, submachine guns, etc.)."
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From the screenshots you can tell what most of the unlockable weapons are lol, I will find a screenshot and name them.


http://www.totalbf2.com/images.php?img=features/screenshots/big/318.jpg

It looks like special forces get an OICW, but that could also be a UMP like from CS but I doubt that. Sniper is just another sniper rifle, not that big of a deal. Assault looks like that really good rifle from ghost recon. I have no idea what support is. Engineer is possible a FAMAS. Medic gets the L8 or whatever, like from ghost recon. Anti tank gets some sort of SMG.
 
Heh, didn't see that at all :p. Being a bit of a know it all I'll take some guesses -

Special Ops - I reckon that's the G36k out of Far Cry, just with a dodgy bit on it.
Sniper - No idea, my guess is that it's not bolt action, so you don't have to take your eye from the scope every shot.
Assault - Can't remember the name, it's FN something.
Support - RPK?
Engineer - Jackhammer
Medic - No idea

EDIT: Nevermind - this sites got most of 'em :) http://www.somua.com/main.php?page=New2.php&numnews=7252&fid=102
 
Assault's the HK G3, Medic the SA80 and the Anti-Tank looks like some kind of drum-fed autoshotgun.
 
Sniper's M82A1 i believe, could be another variant though
edit: nm it's the bullpup variant of the .50 cal... the M9-something i think
 
 
Mr. Redundant said:
from top to bottom:

G36C http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/gif/g36c.gif

Barret (kinda looks like it, could be wrong) http://www.revistanaval.com/armada/tear/barret.jpg

Sg1 http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/gif/sg1.gif

M249 MK http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/gif/m249.gif

Jackhammer http://matrix.dumpshock.com/raygun/firearms/shotgun/img/jack_2.jpg

SA 80 http://www.tmhbs.com/images/sa80.jpg

Striker http://www.lakesideguns.com/c3gallery/sweepers.jpg (top one)

then again that's just my opinion

EDIT: if you posted any of these before me, you suck. thank you. :p
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I think you are right on all of those, and the sniper rifle is correct, there was a thread about it on another forum.
 
Foxtrot said:
I think you are right on all of those, and the sniper rifle is correct, there was a thread about it on another forum.
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w00t for gun knowledge :)
 
what's the variant number for the barrett sniper rifle? anyone know, i've forgotten
 
Foxtrot said:
How is the M249 MK different from the other M249?
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http://world.guns***/machine/mg17-e.htm

"give away" was the tubular buttstock

edit: oops, M249 is the same thing as the MK, aka FN minimi.
 
JiMmEh said:
I don't think that's a variant of the M249 - but more, this gun: http://www.somua.com/Up/Images/3-2005/BF2_armes_CMO_3.jpg :D
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:( no worky

edit: however if you were trying to link to the RPK, I doubt it. that's a russian made (AK bred) machine gun... I don't see the military using it... and besides that it's already a normal non-unlockable weapon for the MEC side.. which would be lazy and silly to make it the unlockable on the US side when they could just nab one on the battlefield.


second edit: if you were linking to the KORD, I doubt it would be that either, as that is already an established unlockable for the MEC side (same reason as before)

translation on the kord (french to english)
read light, more precise and less fragile than these predecessors, Kord is essential like the new standard of the heavy machine guns of 12.7mm in Russia. Same gauge that m2 American, it is nevertheless lighter because it has a system of more powerful cooling. It is effective until A 2,000m with any types of balls (flamers, traçantes, explosives...). In Battlefield 2, it is assembled on the vehicles of the CMO for their defense.
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I think those are right apart from the Assault, Mr. Redundant. Look at how the barrel protrudes from the bottom of the grip like the HK G3 - the SG1 barrel is more toward the centre.
 
Special Ops- G36C/G36K
Sniper- Some sort of Semi-auto clip loaded sniper rifle
Assault- G3A3
Support- PKM
Engineer- Jackhammer
Medic- SA80, easy
Anti-Tank- A small pump shottie, I can't remember the name of it
 
Axyon said:
I think those are right apart from the Assault, Mr. Redundant. Look at how the barrel protrudes from the bottom of the grip like the HK G3 - the SG1 barrel is more toward the centre.
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I agree with you on the HK G3, it was my first guess the SG1 is the sniper variant of the G3 line... it wouldn't make sense giving the assault class a sniper rifle in any case, I would change it, but those were my initial guesses.
 
Mr. Redundant said:
:( no worky

edit: however if you were trying to link to the RPK, I doubt it. that's a russian made (AK bred) machine gun... I don't see the military using it... and besides that it's already a normal non-unlockable weapon for the MEC side.. which would be lazy and silly to make it the unlockable on the US side when they could just nab one on the battlefield.
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Odd, the link works for me. I'm certain that's the gun though, it's not the RPK. It's a BF2 render so it's gotta be :)

EDIT: A much smaller pic - KORD? http://www.bf2-files.de/img/klassen/mec/waffen/small_kord.jpg
 
JiMmEh said:
Odd, the link works for me. I'm certain that's the gun though, it's not the RPK. It's a BF2 render so it's gotta be :)

EDIT: A much smaller pic - KORD? http://www.bf2-files.de/img/klassen/mec/waffen/small_kord.jpg
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yeah I figured that was your guess, I answered it already on my second edit of the previous post though.

I just don't see them being that lazy. if you look at the other unlockables of the MEC side, they are not the US variant unlockables (leading me to believe it would be different on both sides on all guns)

(picture works if you visit the site and check it out manually I guess, didn't work before I went in manually and found it)
 
Mr. Redundant said:
http://www.somua.com/Up/Images/3-2005/BF2_armes_CMO_3.jpg

yeah I figured that was your guess, I answered it already on my second edit of the previous post though.

I just don't see them being that lazy. if you look at the other unlockables of the MEC side, they are not the US variant unlockables (leading me to believe it would be different on both sides on all guns)
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EDIT 2 : If you take a look at the three class selection things for each side:

http://www.totalbf2.com/game/classes/mec.php
http://www.totalbf2.com/game/classes/china.php
http://www.totalbf2.com/game/classes/us.php

You can see the upgradable weapons are the same for each. This kind of makes sense as most of them are weapons which don't originate from either the US, China or erm...yeah. :p
 
JiMmEh said:
EDIT: Nevermind, didn't read the last bit of your post :p
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not your fault, I edited it late :)

then again I could be wrong, it could be the KORD, I just don't like to think that DICE would do that.
 
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