Catholic school board pulls The Golden Compass from library: author is atheist

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Halton's Catholic board has pulled The Golden Compass fantasy book ? soon to be a Hollywood blockbuster starring Nicole Kidman ? off school library shelves because of a complaint.

Two other books in the trilogy by British author Philip Pullman have also been removed as a precaution, and principals have been ordered not to distribute December Scholastic book flyers because The Golden Compass is available to order.

"(The complaint) came out of interviews that Philip Pullman had done, where he stated that he is an atheist and that he supports that," said Scott Millard, the board's manager of library services.

"Since we are an educational institution, we want to be able to evaluate the material; we want to make sure we have the best material for students."
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http://www.thestar.com/article/278845



the school board has every right to dictate what they have on their bookshelves but this is more than a little disconcerting ..the books are works of fiction, the author's POV shouldnt be at issue


and now, following Absinthe's suggestion that I promote meaningful and thought provoking solutions instead of the usual mudslinging I'll offer this up:



they should be lined up against a wall and shot, especially the person who complained in the first place ... problem solved
 
If the complaint is actually because of Pullman being atheist that's just dumb.

I mean I can understand a Catholic school (though not a state one) pulling the books since they have strong anti-Church and anti-religion themes and messages in them, but remove them for the correct reason damnit.
 
things like this are the reason that I'm doomed to alcoholism and cigarette addiction
 
delusional said:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,305487,00.html

Posted on the other thread with a similar topic. seems to be slightly about religion.
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no, the topic is not at all similiar ..this is about the books being banned due to his POV, the other thread is about the content of the movie/books itself ...besides I dont care what hannity and dipshit have to say this particular issue is in my back door ..halton region is in my neck of the woods
 
Hannity and Colmes

(c) Al Franken
 
sorry, did I get that in reverse? it should be "dipshit and Colmes?"
 
No, Hannity's the "liberal" one I think, but Colmes dominates the show, thus the emphasis
 
^its the other way around ennui
Colmes is alright,Hannity on the other hand../
 
Whoops. Well either way, the show's sort of worthless. I'm going to be watching it tonight because of your thread though.
 
it's on after the "o really?" factor
"oh really" at 5pm
and Insanity and Colmes at 6pm
 
This is just retarded. I don't not read books by christians, or buddhists, or muslims. I don't give a shit what the author is like as long as it is a good book.
Sadly, retards happen.
 
I wonder what Nicole Kidman has to say about this,is she an atheist perhaps?
 
surely she must have an opinion on this whole debacle.
 
Well, it is occuring in a CATHOLIC school district. Kind of silly, still. Would anyone have known he was an atheist had he not come out and said he was?? Is it in the books anywhere??

I could see the book being pulled for these reasons in a public school district, being a conflict of interest.

Having attended Catholic schools in the past, I will say control of information is one of their favorite activities. Never heard of this happening in the past, but completely unshocking considering the type of schools we're discussing.
 
My solution to the problem, dont go to catholic schools. Problem solved. ;)
 
Lt. Drebin said:
Well, it is occuring in a CATHOLIC school district. Kind of silly, still. Would anyone have known he was an atheist had he not come out and said he was?? Is it in the books anywhere??
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Blatently.

In the third book in the series the main characters basically kill God, or at least the Church's 'God' who has been posing as the Creator.
 
Bill Donahue needs to be beaten senseless with a concrete slab, pissed on by hyenas and then dumped unceremoniously into a river of pig shit running into a black hole.
 
Eejit said:
Blatently.

In the third book in the series the main characters basically kill God, or at least the Church's 'God' who has been posing as the Creator.
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Well, then. There you go. It appears that there's more to the banning of the book than just the author's atheism. Again, I don't remember my schools banning many books, but this certainly seems like grounds for a Catholic school district. This would be far more insane if it had occured in a public school.


"My solution to the problem, dont go to catholic schools. Problem solved. "

Easier said than done when growing up in a shitty school district and no ability to attend another. Private schools, Catholic or otherwise, look very attractive suddenly.
 
Samon said:
Bill Donahue needs to be beaten senseless with a concrete slab, pissed on by hyenas and then dumped unceremoniously into a river of pig shit running into a black hole.
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I dont like the shape of Phil's glasses and his hair is annoying shade of white but man phil donahue doesnt deserve hyena pissing




ooooooh you mean Bill donahue ..........alrightee then ...can I piss on his senseless body? hyenas shouldnt be used for our amusement, it's inhuame, poor poor animals ..wont someone please think of the hyenas
 
I'm simply surprised the school ordered copies in the first place. Didn't the librarian know anything about the plot?
 
Daniel Craig will be doing the new Bond movie soon. Let's hope he blows the shit out of a convent or something.
 
Samon said:
Bill Donahue needs to be beaten senseless with a concrete slab, pissed on by hyenas and then dumped unceremoniously into a river of pig shit running into a black hole.
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Sigged for truth and sheer awesomeness.
 
All of this raises an important question: why should Catholic schools exist?
 
For the same reason any religion-centric education system exists. For no f|ucking logical reason. They just do.
 
Wikipedia said:
Some notable writers on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum

* Joseph Addison
* Francis Bacon
* Honor? de Balzac
* Simone de Beauvoir
* Cesare Beccaria
* Jeremy Bentham
* Henri Bergson
* George Berkeley
* Thomas Browne
* Giordano Bruno
* John Calvin
* Giacomo Casanova
* Auguste Comte
* Nicolaus Copernicus
* Jean le Rond d'Alembert
* Erasmus Darwin
* Daniel Defoe
* Ren? Descartes
* Denis Diderot
* Alexandre Dumas, p?re
* Alexandre Dumas, fils
* Desiderius Erasmus
* Johannes Scotus Eriugena
* Gustave Flaubert
* Anatole France
* Frederick II of Prussia
* Galileo Galilei
* Edward Gibbon
* Andr? Gide
* Vincenzo Gioberti
* Graham Greene
* Heinrich Heine
* Thomas Hobbes
* Victor Hugo
* David Hume
* Cornelius Jansen
* Immanuel Kant
* Nikos Kazantzakis
* Hughes Felicit? Robert de Lamennais
* Pierre Larousse
* Gregorio Leti
* John Locke
* Martin Luther
* Niccol? Machiavelli
* Maurice Maeterlinck
* Maimonides
* Nicolas Malebranche
* Karl Marx
* Jules Michelet
* John Stuart Mill, Principles of Political Economy (placed on Index in 1856)[2]
* John Milton
* Charles de Secondat, baron de Montesquieu
* Blaise Pascal
* Fran?ois Rabelais
* Ernest Renan
* Samuel Richardson
* Jean-Jacques Rousseau
* George Sand
* Jean-Paul Sartre
* Baruch de Spinoza
* Laurence Sterne
* Emanuel Swedenborg
* Jonathan Swift
* Theodoor Hendrik van de Velde
* Voltaire
* Gerard Walschap
* ?mile Zola
* Huldrych Zwingli
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Reads like a Who's who of great intellectuals :D
 
Guys, guys, guys! I said why should they be allowed? It was a rhetorical question!

The answer is: NO THEY SHOULDN'T EVER CUS THEY ARE LAME.

EDIT: Descartes?! But...but...he was a believer!
 
I wanna be outlawed.

It'll be like old times when I absconded with mein freil, on the run from the po po!
 
Actually, before the Catholic church was bought by the Romans, it was the center of intelligence. They said the Earth was not alone in planets, deemed astrology a good science, and did many other things. Of course, that was before teh Romans messed everything up.


And I believe it is the Pope who was the first Christian leader who said evolution is real.
 
PortalStormzzzz said:
Actually, before the Catholic church was bought by the Romans, it was the center of intelligence. They said the Earth was not alone in planets, deemed astrology a good science, and did many other things. Of course, that was before teh Romans messed everything up.
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ya they fed that guy to the lions

Legionaire Hornicus: Wait ...Bill Smith ..isnt he that guy who talked about something called the "the theory of relativity"?

Legionaire Portus: "ya they fed him to the lions this morning ..too bad, I hear he was working on something called the "unified theory" whatever the hell that is ..probably something to do with homos ...oh well, I'm off to the Turkish baths to get oiled up for tonights virgin sacrifice ..wanna come with?



PortalStormzzzz said:
And I believe it is the Pope who was the first Christian leader..
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you mean Peter? they crucified him upside down didnt they? ...hmmm I wonder why ........
 
GOD CURSED THE ROMANS.
If thats what your getting at...
It's more or less the Catholic leaders who mess thing up, not the Catholics themselves. Before the Romans, everything was high and mighty, then the fat corrupt Emperors messed everything up.

Oh yea, it wasn't Peter, it was Pope John Paul II.

WIKIPEDIA:

Theory of evolution and the interpretation of Genesis

See also: Evolution and the Roman Catholic Church.

In an 22 October 1996 address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Pope John Paul II reaffirmed the Church's openness to the theory of evolution:

"In his encyclical Humani Generis (1950), my predecessor Pius XII has already affirmed that there is no conflict between evolution and the doctrine of the faith regarding man and his vocation, provided that we do not lose sight of certain fixed points....Today, more than a half-century after the appearance of that encyclical, some new findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than an hypothesis. In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, following a series of discoveries in different scholarly disciplines. The convergence in the results of these independent studies -- which was neither planned nor sought -- constitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory." (John Paul II, Message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Evolution)

In the same address, the Pope rejected any theory of evolution that provides a materialistic explanation for the human soul:

"Theories of evolution which, because of the philosophies which inspire them, regard the spirit either as emerging from the forces of living matter, or as a simple epiphenomenon of that matter, are incompatible with the truth about man."

John Paul II also wrote to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on the subject of cosmology and how to interpret Genesis:

"Cosmogony and cosmology have always aroused great interest among peoples and religions. The Bible itself speaks to us of the origin of the universe and its make-up, not in order to provide us with a scientific treatise, but in order to state the correct relationships of man with God and with the universe. Sacred Scripture wishes simply to declare that the world was created by God, and in order to teach this truth it expresses itself in the terms of the cosmology in use at the time of the writer. The Sacred Book likewise wishes to tell men that the world was not created as the seat of the gods, as was taught by other cosmogonies and cosmologies, but was rather created for the service of man and the glory of God. Any other teaching about the origin and make-up of the universe is alien to the intentions of the Bible, which does not wish to teach how heaven was made but how one goes to heaven." (Pope John Paul II, October 3, 1981 to the Pontifical Academy of Science, "Cosmology and Fundamental Physics")
 
PortalStormzzzz said:
Catholic schools have their own systems. Why should you care what they ban or not?
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Because they are in ma country, ****en up my intellectual milleau.

I do not believe faith schools should be legal. Actually I don't believe in private schooling either but that's a whole other topic.

sea said:
So? Calvin was a believer, as was Luther. Didn't stop the Catholic Church from outlawing them.
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Yeah, but to be fair, they were leaders of the protestant reformation. Descartes gets to be in Category: Roman Catholic philosophers on wikipedia.
 
I'm in one. I think it's a much better education. My school has 95%ish college acceptance. As opposed to Public schools, who do not. Right from some site on something:

Only 70% of all students in public high schools graduate, and only 32% of all students leave high school qualified to attend four-year colleges.
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http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/ewp_03.htm


But you would think wrong if you think we learn anything on religion. It's just simply another school that is more strict.


Sorry, but the foundations of capitalism in on privately owned businesses. School is just another business and private schools shall never die.
 
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