Catholic school board pulls The Golden Compass from library: author is atheist

[Kadayi]

Anything to take the heat off of Bush. Today's enemy is Philip Pullman evil Childrens Author

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

How can you take the heat off Bush? His |Censored| |Censored| are so many that the heat cannot stop going on him. He's gone in 1 year at long last.

 

[Sulkdodds]

I'm in one. I think it's a much better education. My school has 95%ish college acceptance. As opposed to Public schools, who do not. Right from some site on something:

But you would think wrong if you think we learn anything on religion. It's just simply another school that is more strict.

Sorry, but the foundations of capitalism in on privately owned businesses. School is just another business and private schools shall never die.

That's great! Since a debate on the merits of private education are for another thread (grumble grumble grumble rich sods leeching the funds and resources from state systems grumble grumble state schools only worse because they're poorer grumble), let's just focus on the religion:

Unless you can prove to me that your school's aptitude is based specificaly on its Catholicity (rather than something else, like how much funding it gets), you're not effectively arguing for Catholic schools.

On the contrary, presumably what makes your school good is not that it is Catholic, but that it is well-funded and well-run.

But I'm appalled at the list of great writers, scientists and philosophers denied to pupils at some Catholic schools - these writings are keystones of our age and not to be able to access them is a big rupture in trying to get a good education. And the reason they are banned is not because the school is well-funded, or well-run - the reason they are banned and that children are denied their knowledge is because the school is Catholic.

So tell me, what good things exactly result from the Catholicity of schools? Prayer? Unity? Respect?

Fine. What bad things result from the Catholicity of schools? Without meaning to sound alarmist, I shall tell you: the arbitrary restriction of education, the chaining of the mind, and the positive reinforcement, however distant, of an ideology that is responsible for millions of past crimes, and is even now harming people.

EDIT: you know what that last point isn't even important; not letting people read all that stuff is bad enough.

I guess that's all okay because it helps the kids pass exams?

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

Whatever. My school gives you a bible and says "we recommend you read these couple of wittings". I read it and I pass the test. What makes my school good is it's helping of the students. Guidance counselors are available the entire day and will stay late to help you. They will go through college options with you and help you make the right choice. Teachers help the in need. Funds are run all yea the help the community. Etc Etc.

I like my school, that simple. I don't go into all the pesky details, it's just a good school.

Good things that come from it? How about most kids who graduate become something. I obviously wont say who went to the school because then you'd know where it is and possibly even where I am and I am very suspicious of all.

In the end it isn't the "catholic" that makes it good, as we aren't even taught alot of religion. It's the amount of care put into every kid, Something that Public schools lack as far as New York goes.

All I know is my school doesn't even have many books to ban to begin with. They have a library with all necessary reading material.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Whatever. My school gives you a bible and says "we recommend you read these couple of wittings". I read it and I pass the test. What makes my school good is it's helping of the students. Guidance counselors are available the entire day and will stay late to help you. They will go through college options with you and help you make the right choice. Teachers help the in need. Funds are run all yea the help the community. Etc Etc.

So did my school. Start making sense.

 

[Eejit]

EDIT: you know what that last point isn't even important; not letting people read all that stuff is bad enough.

Actually they simply don't provide them in the school library. There's nothing stopping the kids from going to a public library to get a copy.

I don't know how different things are in America but in the schools I've been in they don't usually carry much Descartes, whether the place is Catholic or not.

 

[Jintor]

Whatever. My school gives you a bible and says "we recommend you read these couple of wittings". I read it and I pass the test. What makes my school good is it's helping of the students. Guidance counselors are available the entire day and will stay late to help you. They will go through college options with you and help you make the right choice. Teachers help the in need. Funds are run all yea the help the community. Etc Etc.

I like my school, that simple. I don't go into all the pesky details, it's just a good school.

Good things that come from it? How about most kids who graduate become something. I obviously wont say who went to the school because then you'd know where it is and possibly even where I am and I am very suspicious of all.

In the end it isn't the "catholic" that makes it good, as we aren't even taught alot of religion. It's the amount of care put into every kid, Something that Public schools lack as far as New York goes.

All I know is my school doesn't even have many books to ban to begin with. They have a library with all necessary reading material.

Maybe I'm speaking as a student of a system where the ****ing private schools are getting more government funding than some of the public schools, but seriously, it's the money. The money. THE MONEY.

I'm fine with Private schools as a concept but STOP TAKING OUR FUNDING YOU BASTARDS.

Also religion stays out of education and/or potential for reading materials kthxbai.

 

[CptStern]

Whatever. My school gives you a bible and says "we recommend you read these couple of wittings".

oh come on, who you trying to fool? I went to a catholic school and it was much more in your face than that ... there was no "suggesting" we read something, it was: read it or fail the course

I read it and I pass the test. What makes my school good is it's helping of the students. Guidance counselors are available the entire day and will stay late to help you. They will go through college options with you and help you make the right choice. Teachers help the in need. Funds are run all yea the help the community. Etc Etc.

as was my school, however their religious agenda made itself known, it was unavoidable ..whether it was the browbeating over the prohibited use of condoms (because you dont want teenagers to have the facts around stds and the risks of pregnancy, it's far more effective to tell them to not have sex .....riiight), the heavy handed anti-abortion messages (hey did you watch the Silent Scream in class yet?) to occasional mass and forced confessions during lent .. my math teacher was also the priest I had to go to see for confession ..I remember lying during confession (double the sentence in hell) so that I wouldnt get in trouble because most of my sins involved doing something bad at school

I like my school, that simple. I don't go into all the pesky details, it's just a good school.

Good things that come from it? How about most kids who graduate become something. I obviously wont say who went to the school because then you'd know where it is and possibly even where I am and I am very suspicious of all.

In the end it isn't the "catholic" that makes it good, as we aren't even taught alot of religion. It's the amount of care put into every kid, Something that Public schools lack as far as New York goes.

how much do your parents pay in tuition? there's your answer right there ... any institution can provide excellect education so long as you throw money at it, it's not the public school systems fault that in any given month more is spent of killing iraqis than is spent on education

All I know is my school doesn't even have many books to ban to begin with. They have a library with all necessary reading material.

at the very least it's 4000 books

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum

 

[Eejit]

Hmm seems Catholic schools in the US are a bit different than over here. My mother teaches at a Dominican school, and it's not like that at all. The nuns don't even teach anymore and only a few still live in the convent. The current Principle is a Presbyterian.
And it doesn't praise Catholic values particularly, quite a large proportion of students aren't Catholic. And since it's in N.I. well it's still not a good idea to try and force Catholic ways on Protestants here (or vice versa ofc).

 

[Mr Stabby]

Northern Ireland probably doesn't work like elsewhere, because of our obvious problems with religious segregation. Although in NI, I'd say in general that catholic schools, are grammar schools for catholics as regular grammar schools are generally protestant, that's the impression I get anyway.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

CtpStern, of course you fail if you don't do good in it. It's like any other course.

Whey you go to NY, it's not gov funded. My school gets it's money from it's rich alumni and the church. So stop whinning about stealing money from the gov, Jintor.

Right now, NY city Public schools = Fail.


And as far as it goes, the only religous studies I've gotten from mys chool is a Bible they told me to keep and a religoun work book. We don't evenb read the bible and the work book has missing pages.

It's an embarrassment, yes. I suppose I just like the school.

In the end, in the US, any religon can open it's own school system and teach what it damn well please.

 

[Jintor]

Whey you go to NY, it's not gov funded. My school gets it's money from it's rich alumni and the church. So stop whinning about stealing money from the gov, Jintor.

A) It happens in my country, so I'm perfectly justified in whining about it.

B) And they should be able to teach what they damn well please - so long as religion stays out of the ****ing equasion.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

well, religious people, being 95% of America would happily dis agree.

You are justified in your place if the gov funds it, but in America, private schools are funded by other means. Never touched by the gov. Therefore, they have a right to teach what they please. The Jewish school in my second house in Brooklyn teaches Jewish law and the old testament just as my Catholic school teaches (very rarely) about it's faith. Such is the way the system works in America.

 

[Jintor]

well, religious people, being 95% of America would happily dis agree.

You are justified in your place if the gov funds it, but in America, private schools are funded by other means. Never touched by the gov. Therefore, they have a right to teach what they please. The Jewish school in my second house in Brooklyn teaches Jewish law and the old testament just as my Catholic school teaches (very rarely) about it's faith. Such is the way the system works in America.

It has a certain logic to it... but also a shitload of inherent stupidity.

If there was a Nazi school, and it was entirely self-funded, would it be allowed to teach whatever the **** it wanted?

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

Nazism is a government system, not a religion. So I don't know. As long as no hate was preached, I guess. Nazism isn't a religion though, so that would be where the questionable ethics would be. It would essentially go into the same category as a Democrat school or a Republican school. not sure if those are legal, so you know what, I have no Idea.

Technically there was. The Nazi youth? Yea, it taught the same crap as the boy scouts, but they never actually taught Hitler bat crazy shit. It has no difference to a Muslims school or a Jewish school except that it would teach the government system rather then a religion.

being a Capitalist, I know such a school would fail because no one would send their kids there. It would have no income, and so thus fail. That's what's so great about Private Schools. If it sucks, no parents give their money. So they must make the school good, or fail.


OH YEA, stern. my family pays 4000ish on tuition. So yea, it costs alot. (that's yearly)

 

[Jintor]

Nazism is a government system, not a religion. So I don't know. As long as no hate was preached, I guess. Nazism isn't a religion though, so that would be where the questionable ethics would be. It would essentially go into the same category as a Democrat school or a Republican school. not sure if those are legal, so you know what, I have no Idea.

Technically there was. The Nazi youth? Yea, it taught the same crap as the boy scouts, but they never actually taught Hitler bat crazy shit. It has no difference to a Muslims school or a Jewish school except that it would teach the government system rather then a religion.

being a Capitalist, I know such a school would fail because no one would send their kids there. It would have no income, and so thus fail. That's what's so great about Private Schools. If it sucks, no parents give their money. So they must make the school good, or fail.


OH YEA, stern. my family pays 4000ish on tuition. So yea, it costs alot. (that's yearly)

In terms of indoctrination and pointlessness I would say Nazism is about on par with most Religions.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

Well, most of the world would disagree on you with religion's place. Many find religion a release from their horror in lives, or a gleeful comfort in an already good life. Personally, it is the latter of me. I live happily. I'd go so far as to admit I'd probably have a better life if I abandoned my faith, but I won't. It's dearest to me. And the little proofs throughout my life make it solid and impossible to break.

Nazsm is a system of governing though. according to your logic, Republicanism ans Democratism should be a religion too.

n the end, I think religion always wins. This because even after Christianity and all the rest are dead, a new person will come around and found a new faith. This is kind of the case with most modern day religions. Judaism came about when most didn't believe in anything. Christianity came about because the Greeks and Romans were beginning to hate their religions. Islam came about because many didn't like Christianity and hated Jews already in it's area of birth.

Hence, in a sense, while atheism has it's popularity at times and it's downfall at times, Religion will never die and has been with man since his first non-ape persons and will be with us till the last man dies.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

well, religious people, being 95% of America would happily dis agree.

Nice round percentage you picked there, just too make it look like you have a clue about what your saying.

 

[Pesmerga]

Portalzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz has no ****ing idea what he's talking about, because he picks up his life philosophy from his quick talking parents and is blindly attracted to shock conspiracy theory youtube videos like a moth to a monitor in a dark, lonely room.

I don't even know what he's saying half the time, I just know that it's probably 95% bat shit retarded.

 

[Jintor]

Well, most of the world would disagree on you with religion's place. Many find religion a release from their horror in lives, or a gleeful comfort in an already good life. Personally, it is the latter of me. I live happily. I'd go so far as to admit I'd probably have a better life if I abandoned my faith, but I won't. It's dearest to me. And the little proofs throughout my life make it solid and impossible to break.

Nazsm is a system of governing though. according to your logic, Republicanism ans Democratism should be a religion too.

n the end, I think religion always wins. This because even after Christianity and all the rest are dead, a new person will come around and found a new faith. This is kind of the case with most modern day religions. Judaism came about when most didn't believe in anything. Christianity came about because the Greeks and Romans were beginning to hate their religions. Islam came about because many didn't like Christianity and hated Jews already in it's area of birth.

Hence, in a sense, while atheism has it's popularity at times and it's downfall at times, Religion will never die and has been with man since his first non-ape persons and will be with us till the last man dies.

I don't think you understood my point at all. Or you're attributing false comparisons. Whatever.

The comparison was religion to Nazism, not religion to political systems of government. It was in terms of indoctrination and pointlessness.

The only reason that Religion has such a hold on the world is because of the sheer amount of indoctrination that it has going for it. Do you know how relentlessly, incredibly hard that it is to work a religious meme out of your head once you've learnt it from birth, learnt it as the truth? Neither do I, because I avoided it, and probably more crucially my parents avoided it. I know that religion is a great comforter, yadda yadda yadda, but in terms of reality it has nothing - nothing whatsoever - going for it. Well, perhaps the moral code, but I hold that while a code of morality and ethics may have started as the basis for most religions, some are deeply flawed, and others have been bent to the propagation of the religious meme.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

The Devil is in that book!


XD

Really? Which character?

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

The comparison was religion to Nazism, not religion to political systems of government.

Isn't that the same thing though?


An I do ramble on Pesmerga . It's what happens when you do nothing but read, sleep, and type. It's not from my parents though. Because both do not see the same way I do.

Rambling is fun.

 

[Jintor]

Isn't that the same thing though?


An I do ramble on Pesmerga . It's what happens when you do nothing but read, sleep, and type. It's not from my parents though. Because both do not see the same way I do.

Rambling is fun.

No. No it wasn't. You've ****ing missed the point again.

Let me highlight for you.

Religion is to Nazism as Religious Indoctrination is to Political Indoctrination.

As far as I know Democrats and Republicans never brought propaganda to the scale that Religion and Nazism did.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

Religion has no propaganda. I'm not exactly sure how they'd appear with banners of "listen to das Pope".

Unlike Nazis, the Pope doesn't execute you in gas chambers for not following his orders... anymore.

As for political propaganda, both dems and repubs use it all the time. Rudy just pulled shit out of his anus on health care, and Hilary is using the old commie trick to gain support by promising the redistribution of wealth.

 

[Avoidist]

Religion has no propaganda

 

[Cole]

Religion has no propaganda? WHAT? I'm sorry but religion is propaganda in it's most abused form.

 

[Jintor]

Religion has no propaganda. I'm not exactly sure how they'd appear with banners of "listen to das Pope".

Unlike Nazis, the Pope doesn't execute you in gas chambers for not following his orders... anymore.

As for political propaganda, both dems and repubs use it all the time. Rudy just pulled shit out of his anus on health care, and Hilary is using the old commie trick to gain support by promising the redistribution of wealth.

You can see the propaganda in Government systems but you can't see the Propaganda in Religion? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING?

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

This is just getting stupid. If you can't see religious proganda then you truely are a retard.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

In order for something to be propaganda, it has to be effective. In the modern age, what exactly has the Catholic church done for propaganda? Last I checked, the Pope sits on his ass all day making decrees and visiting places and that's basically it.

I can't speak for any other religion or nation, but here in America, the Catholic church is silent and dieing off. I'd think if any propaganda were being used you'd maybe, you know, see an increase in Catholicism?

UPDATE:
Just saw that Pope speech. WOW, for once in the last 60 something years, a Pope has actually done something? Well, it's just another rant anyways, Would you consider a speech propaganda? In that case, then every republican President, democrat President, and politician who was on news has committed it. Propaganda required something to actually change the way you think, such as: http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/R/O/propaganda_quiet.jpg

The Pope's speech is just an opinion. Much like every speech ever made.

 

[Cole]

In order for something to be propaganda, it has to be effective. In the modern age, what exactly has the Catholic church done for propaganda? Last I checked, the Pope sits on his ass all day making decrees and visiting places and that's basically it.

I can't speak for any other religion or nation, but here in America, the Catholic church is silent and dieing off. I'd think if any propaganda were being used you'd maybe, you know, see an increase in Catholicism?

UPDATE:
Just saw that Pope speech. WOW, for once in the last 60 something years, a Pope has actually done something? Well, it's just another rant anyways, Would you consider a speech propaganda? In that case, then every republican President, democrat President, and politician who was on news has committed it. Propaganda required something to actually change the way you think, such as: http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/R/O/propaganda_quiet.jpg

The Pope's speech is just an opinion. Much like every speech ever made.

The catholic church is not dying off. It has only been gaining more power and implementing itself in our government more and more.
From "under god", pretty much having to be a christian to be president ("not always so").

Also while the Pope may not be speaking out, does it have to? There is probably a church in every single city in America. Hell in my small city of 10,000 people theres probably 4 or 5 churches. If I walk into one of these churches the priest is gonna pretty much gonna tell me a good hour of propaganda. As an atheist who actually has been in a church on a sunday about 25 times in the past year and a half. I have yet to see a case where the priest wasn't giving some sort of propaganda.

Furthermore to see that Christian Propaganda isn't effective shows how dumb you really are. It's very effective thats why in the next 100 years the Christian Religion will still probably still be the majority in America society.

Heres a good definition of propaganda: Propaganda is a type of message aimed at influencing the opinions or behavior of people. Often, instead of impartially providing information, propaganda can be deliberately misleading, or using logical fallacies, which, while sometimes convincing, are not necessarily valid.

Everything about religion is based off of logical fallacies. The whole purpose of religion is to influence you're opinions and you're behavior. Theres no proof that god exists, that jesus is the actual son of god (if he did exist), that Moses had all his pwnage powers, or that Jesus could heal people. There's no proof, yet they claim it's fact.



And to furthermore think that democrats and republicans don't commit propaganda is..... is for a person who must believe everything they hear. I mean hell half the time all the democrats and republicans do is bash eachother for what each did wrong with there TV Ad's. It's all propaganda and all taken out of context. To think that our government doesn't use Propaganda is absurd. The entire Bush Administration has used propaganda countless times. I mean, American support for the Iraq War happened via Propaganda.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

So essentially, everyone's opinion on the world is Propaganda? A Muslim Mosque would tell me their the greatest and that the government is improving relations with them or their being abused by the government just as much as a Christian Church would. One thing I've seen though, is the government's attempt to destroy every faith and unify all of us into mindless followers of executive power. Though paradoxical, the thing that unifies Americans is their faith and differences. The day their is no religion and everyone has the same opinion like a zombie is the day America dies.

 

[Jintor]

So essentially, everyone's opinion on the world is Propaganda? A Muslim Mosque would tell me their the greatest and that the government is improving relations with them or their being abused by the government just as much as a Christian Church would. One thing I've seen though, is the government's attempt to destroy every faith and unify all of us into mindless followers of executive power. Though paradoxical, the thing that unifies Americans is their faith and differences. The day their is no religion and everyone has the same opinion like a zombie is the day America dies.

You can still argue politics.

What bullshit Government's attempt to destroy each faith and unify us all into an executive power? AMERICA? You've got to be kidding me.

 

[Saruke]

From "under god", pretty much having to be a christian to be president ("not always so").

LOL you actually think under god is a big deal? wow that's overeacting. But I geuss that's all people can really do when it comes to politics and religion isn't it? Religion dosen't kill people, athieism dosen't kill people. People kill people nothing more.

 

[Pesmerga]

I tend to agree. Business and politics are impetuses for violence, warfare, and murder. Religion is a threat so long as the political motivation is egging it on.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

You can still argue politics.

What bullshit Government's attempt to destroy each faith and unify us all into an executive power? AMERICA? You've got to be kidding me.

And their not doing it? Getting off the topic, they just demanded that you HAVE to get your kids flue shots no matter what you think, or you go to jail. (forgot what state did this) Then now their voting to ban spanking for kids. Their getting started to ban guns, as they always do around now. And not to mention the ACLU going on high assault again banning pretty much all faiths from expressing themselves. Holiday replaced Christmas. Hanukkah memorias removed from public areas too. I think they did something to Muslims.

Anyhow, point is. If everyone is not allowed to express themselves and or their faiths, then freedom of thought dies. Everyone begins to think the same way, and then the gov can do whatever they like without opposition. Which is kind of a president's dream. Don't believe me? Look at theses forums. Almost every atheist thinks the same exact way. There has to be multiple faiths so that multiple ideas are broadcast and the functionality of thought allowed to go on.

My tin hat is on very tightly tonight. them there radio waves aren't going to erase my thoughtz. LOL

 

[Absinthe]

This is bullshit.

OMGZ RELIGION IS THE LAST BASTION OF FREE THOUGHT!!!111!1! wE NEED JESUS OTHRWIZE WE'LL ALL BECOME THE SAME & THEN BIG BROTHER WILL CONTROL US

Start filling in the blanks of your argument. Walk me through, step by step, and explain in your scenario how an abandonment of faith would entail humanity devolving into sheep.

 

[Ennui]

I might get flamed for this (from the people I'm usually siding with) but I think that abandonment of faith on a global scale would be extremely unwise. Humans function as a product of both emotion and rationality, and there's a sort of balance that needs to be maintained - and in the absence of humanity's capability for mature, level incorporation of emotion (faith, love, etc) into their lives, religion is a regrettably annoying but necessary fallback.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

This is bullshit.

OMGZ RELIGION IS THE LAST BASTION OF FREE THOUGHT!!!111!1! wE NEED JESUS OTHRWIZE WE'LL ALL BECOME THE SAME & THEN BIG BROTHER WILL CONTROL US

Start filling in the blanks of your argument. Walk me through, step by step, and explain in your scenario how an abandonment of faith would entail humanity devolving into sheep.

You automatically assume I speak for Christians only?

Well, ok. Let me make 2 examples. One forced and the other not forced.

*TIN HAT ON*:dork:

FORCED
Suppose the North American Union, when it is officially made in 2010, starts issuing edicts of broad interpretation that anyone who preaches is a terrorist. Such already happened in a recent document made: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955
But now assume the above bill is actually enforced. Well, then first to be oppressed would be the Muslims, obviously. But, resistance would obviously grow if it was enforced. It wouldn't be long until other minority churches are oppresses, until all churches are oppressed and essentially destroyed.

Ok, now we have a religionless NAU. Everyone has no church and no God. Obviously, the NAU would continue it's wars in the Middle East to go to war with "Terrorists States" (really for Oil though). Where as the church would be one of the first to say no to these wars (Pope said no to Iraq war when Bush asked his opinion), now there is nobody saying anything except the atheist independent thinkers. This bill would also spread onward. Its broad interpretation could lead to further bills banning independent atheist artists and other atheist independent thinkers. Thus, although atheist may have been for the original bill, they are now all alone and being targeted. Without any religious organizations to stand by and help them, they are screwed. Perhaps secular organization like the ACLU would speak up. Well, to bad. The Christians, without their God, have now turned to the gov and are happy sheep who will crush any ACLU members who attempt to speak up. The government is now in control of that 70% Christian majority. The other 20% non Christian Religious have already been systematically exterminated by deportation or jail. The 10% atheist population stands alone. We both know that the uneducated Cristian south would happily follow the government due to their tendency to blindly follow anyone who says their in charge (IE: Bush). Lets face it, they can't think independently now. Without their religious leaders, they're as good as sheep. So, the last of the independent thinkers and bastions of freedom that are those last few atheist are now screwed. They are forced down. Being only 10% of the population, the gov would be free to do as they wish and the 90% others in the nation would care little to nothing to what they do and the gov now controls them as their God. Media is already controlled at this time, and the internet has to be regulated, as how else would religion be 100% destroyed if people can freely talk about it. Now everyone happily does as the GOv pleases. NAU could invade China without a single peep. Impossible? That's what they said about Hitler's dream. Bit far off yea, but so was imagining the USSR in 1910.


Now, NOT FORCED.

So, slowly but surely, by means of the internet and media, you exterminate Religion. At an unknown time in the future, the NAU has no religion. So, now what? Well, the gov has a much easier job to do. Currently, the senate is pretty much pro-Socialist. The happily expand welfare to the appeasement of society. Make tons of entertaining movies and TV shows that, without religion, have nothing stopping them. No more pesky Christian mothers forming unions and crying about offensive materials. No more Muslim hoards demanding offensive materials to be removed, No more crazy Black reformers being driven by southern Christianity. No more pro-Israeli Jews in connection with the government. All gone. Now every Americans goes on happily entertained and content with life, attached to the mass media like a baby pup to its mother breast. Now what? slow and easy generalization of the populace. Using the internet, mass media, and super starts' spheres of influence, the population is systematically turned into content slugs. Oh yes, there will be people who warn of such dangers. Atheists who see it. But lets face it, the vast majority of Americans happily do as they are told, following leaders put to them. It won't be long until the government uses techniques similar to those of the government from the book Fahrenheit 451. Use of technology to slowly control the masses. Internet regulation will come soon afterwards. There will be protests, but most will go on content if they can watch their you tube videos and happily enjoy their food. Soon, bills are passed without much problem that say these few atheist outspoken people are threats to the "Pax Americana" (yea, I made that up from Pax Romana). As wars go on far away, the regulated internet and mass media make it so that these respected atheists look like thought criminals. Once the free thinkers are removed and jailed, it's only time until the rest of the people happily do what their told.

Meh, it can be changes so that if everyone was one religion, the government could take control. Either way, you have to have at least 2 religions and one atheist group to keep the people thinking and the government from total domination. Monopoly, either for business or religion, sucks. I'll add that in right now.

*TIN HAT OFF*


Aw, look at my master piece. :hmph: WOW, it is long.

 

[Pesmerga]

A thousand words of idiocy is still idiocy. What's with you and this North American Union obsession. Jesus H. Christ. It doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand.

 

[ComradeBadger]

PortalStormzzz - your idiocy is going to lead to warnings fairly soon.