Degeneration of HalfLife2.Net

[Operational]

People just need to think before they post which is becoming more and more rare these days.

Agreed, with the exception of the silly jokes that I make (case in point: see below) which I get the feeling only I appreciate, I generally put a lot of effort into what I post, rereading, rephrasing, preview, spell checking (google toolbar FTW), etc. If I can't articulate myself properly I'll just leave my reply and come back to it on my next visit. This doesn't mean we have to be geniuslife2.net but I do think that there are too many threads spoiled by people having their minimum requirements for posting set too low and I think that comes from a attitude thing rather than a moar-post-count thing.

the members have not mutated into different people

Yet. The members have not mutated into different people, yet. OMG are you telling me that your haven't prepared?!

 

[nurizeko]

Also - you know what makes the forums suck? The members, not the moderators.

Actually I disagree.

Hear me out...

The thing is, in any given situation where no-one is in charge and its essentially anarchy, of course a forum is going to burn to the ground, because its human, and more importantly, net-tard nature to destroy civil discourse where it arises, even if many members want otherwise.

It is the moderators and admins who set the tone. A well moderated forum where trouble makers are quickly delt with fairly but efficiently, will naturally lean towards a membership of users who aren't trouble-makers.

You cant blame the members for the problems of a forum anymore you can realistically blame a dog for behaving badly without training. Yes, humans have the ability to know how to behave, but we also have free will, human nature, and the anonymity of the internet.


Likewise, if a moderator or admin starts behaving in a fashion that makes an African despot blush, no-one is to blame but them. With responsibility comes culpability.

You take a look sometime at a thread consisting entirely of oldfags just bitching about the days when /b/ was good.

/b/ was never good. Ever.

And then someone comes up in there and says, "/b/ was never good."

Lol, thats all the more funnier because i typed the above reply before reading that. LOL!. rofle....roflerofle....minge. :rolling:




Meh, as far as I am concerned, compared to other forums, better an worse, HL2.net is in good health, less strict and joy killing than some stricter places, yet not burning forest fires of idiocy and tardation like the worst.

Theres only two forums I frequent and even considering I have long since left the "omg got hl2, fanboy forum phase!" I still come here so its doing some things right, at least by me.

Sure we get new people in, as is expected on a forum, and sure, sometimes even I get pissed off

OMG that was about me! you know I exist! e _ e.

In response to your anger in that thread, to be fair, that "short story" was in the wrong sub forum, and exceptional writing is a highly self determined distinction.

But now, I actually leave my house in my spare time.

Going outside?.....OUTSIDE!!??.

Man your weird....

Like Pi said, be careful what you wish for... if you want strict interpretation and penalizing of the rules than you can have it, but half of you are gonna be banned in about a week if we do that.

Not if its effective fair moderation.

The idea is to ban the persistent offenders, and keep the peace, moderation isn't about how many you ban a week, just how much you gotta police the threads.

Least thats my take on it.

You'll find that through properly increasing the "strictness", most members you would actually want will manage to adapt to the new order.


Luckily though, from m observation, the only real problem is the threads are a bi too cluttered with nonsense topics, but otherwise the place seems welcoming and well tended.

More strictness isn't what we need. People just need to think before they post which is becoming more and more rare these days.

Which is where the mods step in, cleaning things up. People will be less inclined to start spam threads if they know a mod will lock it not long after.




But yeah, I am new so I cant share that common experience, but my position can also allow me to agree with the sentiment that the difference is probably more in the old timers growing and changing then the forums themselves, though they have no doubt changed to to a degree.

As a newcomer the forums didn't appear somehow undesirable. I came for HL2 but I stayed because it wasn't a nest of complete and utterly unsalvageable noobery. :cheers:

 

[Raziaar]

Yeah, I agree. Becides the last thing we need is halflife2.net to turn into facepunch, agreed?

Also as Qonfy said, people should think before they post. I always do, and I try to behave as much as possible and be a good member.

I just be myself. Except in certain instances where I can be far removed from myself and behave in a manner typically not representable of my nature. Those times it's fairly obvious.

 

[ríomhaire]

As has been said n times already the forumites change over time. Unfortunately people go, like bliink, Z and Mechagodzilla, who I am sure many forumites will remember. But new members come in and are part of the new backbone of the site, like Acepilot, who I'm not sure if he was even here at the same time as any of the aforementioned members.

I feel like I've been on this bloody site forever but I'm sure there are plenty of incidents and members I never even knew of that happened in the '03 days. This forum will eventually fade and die until it lasts only in the fond memories of a handful of people. Then a generation later it will have practically never have existed, except perhaps in some Google cache under a million tonnes of crap and porn sites.

This is the nature of things and cannot be prevented. All we can do is enjoy this site while it lasts and stop goddamn bitching unless it's a constructive complaint.

BTW, I fully support Jintor for moderation status (and Danimal for president).

 

[Qonfused]

Qonfused for moderator.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Yet. The members have not mutated into different people, yet. OMG are you telling me that your haven't prepared?!

Wha?
I think my point was that during my 5-6 months of not visiting the site while there were changes in the people here, there was not much change in the people who are here.
They still act the same, despite having possibly grown up in the world.

I can totally see some oldbie member who was a pre-teen and is now closing in on adulthood being a different person, but I think the glory days of HL2net was not that long ago.

Anyway, I tihnk this is something every popular forum goes through. The greatest example being Gaia online, where there is a mass exchange of heirarchy every year.
Old members leave, new members join, the ones who have stayed see things they are not used to and it aggravates them. That's why you should take a break, so you can have the perspective of being a new member.

 

[Druckles]

Qonfused for moderator.

Can't do that, he smokes cannabis and has had an affair.

 

[Jintor]

I'm pissed that Bliiink and Mechagodzilla left. (Didn't know Z too well, unfortunately.) They were some of our best members.

 

[Operational]

Wha?

...
I was joking...

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

I know. I forgot to play into it because I was having serious thoughts. :/

 

[jimbo118]

I'm pissed that Bliiink and Mechagodzilla left. (Didn't know Z too well, unfortunately.) They were some of our best members.

In terms of Bliink, I was here long before she 'left' and I never saw her posting much at all.

 

[CptStern]

those who nominate themselves for mod: you're a horrible choice ..those that nominated other people ..those too are horrible choices for mod ..except Jintor ..he's pretty even keeled

potential mods: more Hectic Glenn, less The Dark elf please

 

[Gray Fox]

Hey I want to be a mod.
I'm a nice guy.

Amirite Stern.

 

[CptStern]

heh besides calling the occasional idiot an idiot you're a nice guy ..sure ..but nice guys finsih last so you need people who are more ruthless ..like Pirates ..Pi is a pirate ..Glenn is at the local community college learning how to be a more effective pirate, I hear he's doing marvelously ...we cant all be pirates

 

[Dekstar]

I'm nice, and I practically live here, but I don't think I'm mod material, amirite Stern?

*cough*votedekstar*cough*

 

[Hectic Glenn]

I'll never be a pirate, me and Pi are different "Pi's in a pod" so to speak.

I don't know who he'll be looking for, but there are lots of vets with potential, shame if you ask you'll never be one though...

 

[CptStern]

heh I dont have to ask and I know I'll never be one


and I love you just the way you are Glenny .. /hums billy joel tune

 

[Qonfused]

I see that Sulk is Super Mod now, so I guess that slot is filled?

 

[MJ12]

We need a more empathetic mod!

Danimal and Samon's beatings hurt us after a while
They are like harsh papa mods, we love um, but we need someone to play the Momma type mod.
Someone who lays down the rules but still loves ya and bakes you cookies.

 

[CptStern]

I thought they were the momma mods cuz they're always seemed fair to me

 

[MJ12]

they are, but papa's beat, mommas bake. I want some cookies. momma mod, we need momma mod.

 

[Qonfused]

Headcrab cookies.

 

[MJ12]

yes, with bedtime stories. momma mod is sounding better and better.

Well, I already have my ideas on who should be mod. But if mentioning their names disqualifies them, I'd rather not speak.

 

[Dan]

Sorry, I just hopped in here at the end. It's probably been pointed out already, but the larger issue isn't the "digression" of HalfLife2.net, but the degeneration of the English language. Digression is not the appropriate word for the subject matter.

Also, it is ironic that this post was made by someone who came here a little over a year ago.

 

[ríomhaire]

I'm pissed that Bliiink and Mechagodzilla left. (Didn't know Z too well, unfortunately.) They were some of our best members.

Damn straight.

 

[Vegeta897]

Glenn is a great mod if you ask me. You don't have to be an asshole to be a good moderator.

That is, you don't have to act like an asshole when you enforce the same rules as a moderator who is an asshole.

Not naming any names

Well, besides Glenn. But he's not who I'm talking about :shh:

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Dan's humor always scratches an itch that I can never seem to reach.

 

[Qonfused]

WHO R U TALKING AbOUT VEG I DUNNO LOL

 

[Jintor]

Uh oh, I got the Stern Seal of Approval. I'm going to get waylaid by the opposing political party of the week on my way home tommorrow. :/

 

[MJ12]

I think either Stigmata or BHC should be new moderator. That is all.

 

[Dan]

def not Stig

 

[Mr-Fusion]

This forum has only improved since i first registered.

A gradual ascent into epic winness.

 

[Kula Meenur]

Forum ist gut

 

[Houndini]

forum is fine as it is, i hate forums were the mods are tightass's

good job guys

 

[Dan]

forum is fine as it is, i hate forums were the mods are tightass's

good job guys

It was so much better way back in 2007 though. Man those really were the crazy days. Everything has gone downhill since January.

 

[15357]

I don't see how we need more mods. Aside from the very occasional spambot, we haven't had that many close-worthy threads.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Glenn is a great mod if you ask me. You don't have to be an asshole to be a good moderator.

That is, you don't have to act like an asshole when you enforce the same rules as a moderator who is an asshole.

Not naming any names

Well, besides Glenn. But he's not who I'm talking about :shh:

Hi there!

 

[Kyorisu]

I don't see how we need more mods. Aside from the very occasional spambot, we haven't had that many close-worthy threads.

Indeed. As for the current status of the forum I think people need to stop crying and get over it. People will stop visiting the forums and new ones will crop up, don't like it? Go to another forum where the exact same thing will happen. I like my little observer status I have and try not to get too involved in any one topic as it is.

 

[Darkside55]

Why do we talk of mods at this committee? Long have the members of Halflife2.net kept the trolls and spammers at bay. By our posts and nonparticipation in such threads are these forums kept safe!

The Lounge has no mods.

The Lounge needs no mods.

 

[Sulkdodds]

That sounds like seditious libel to me. What is this treason?