Do you believe in an "afterlife"?

[Spoonoop]

I believe in heaven. I guess this means I live in a fantasy realm with dancing gorillas, flying tigers and ninja pandas from what I've been reading in this thread .

 

[Smoke]

I believe in heaven. I guess this means I live in a fantasy realm with dancing gorillas, flying tigers and ninja pandas from what I've been reading in this thread .

Not at all, it just means you`re kidding yourself.

I think that anybody who feels the need to debate their beleiefs, does not truly believe in them.

 

[Muffin Man]

Not at all, it just means you`re kidding yourself.

I think that anybody who feels the need to debate their beleiefs, does not truly believe in them.

Wait, so you believe it's blind faith or no faith?

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

dancing gorillas

FTMFW!

 

[Shift]

Ive seen a dancing gorilla before...

 

[Absinthe]

Coming from a drug user.

Wow, good point. You got me there.

You still use drugs to hallucinate, no? I'm sure you enjoy it, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to evoke hallucinations. I don't see the difference. We both like escaping from reality for a little while, the difference is I'm not calling Absinthe a retard because of it. I've got no beef with casual drug users like he seems to have with people who are religious.

My drug use is not the basis for my worldview or my moral framework. Substance-induced hallucinatory escapism is temporary. It's not meant to be eternal and pervasive. Furthermore, I recognize hallucinations as fabrications. I don't drop acid one day and then live the rest of my life thinking the pink rabbit with an uzi I saw was real. But to be quite honest, I'd have a more substantial rationale for my belief than most religious people would. No Christians today witnessed the immaculate conception of Jesus, but they all buy right into it. At least I actually saw an animal holding an automatic weapon.

The bottom line is that I am aware of what drugs do, and even if I do get paranoid or convinced about something while under the influence, I'm eventually able to critically analyze my experience and see it for what it is: not real.

Religious people never go through such a process. Escapism is fun, and it can be healthy sometimes. But sooner or later you need to come back to reality.

 

[Kyorisu]

That was sarcastic wasn't it. Was it? Sorry, I just suck at internet sarcasm. It needs a

Yes it's hard sometimes but I was serious.

Ontopic: Why is it the religious are always the ones to come to me and bitch and moan about how I'm going to rot in hell anyway? I don't go around proclaiming religion as an illusion, so please leave me the **** alone the next time I'm walking down the road kthnx.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Yes it's hard sometimes but I was serious.

Well thanks then.

 

[Roman Legion]

Indeed, I just found the wording ironic. Not trying to insult anyone here, D:.

Everyone needs an escape from reality. Whether it be music, sports, religion, drugs, everyone has something. I just think it's a little cooky calling everyone who chooses to believe something without any scientific fact a nut-job. After all, we're all nut-jobs.

Not everyone who's religious or believes in something is a radical. Are we fooling ourselves into believe something just for comfort? Perhaps we are. But I don't go around trying to convince people they're wrong, or preaching to people who look to science instead of religion. Their opinion is very valid, and I can see where they're coming from.

So some of the greatest scientist are nut jobs? (whom ever sead that) Their is scientist explain God existence and the after life through science... Also science and philosophy can go hand to hand.

Sorry, but

1 - i see a flame war brewing, mwahaha

2- no god = no heaven = no afterlife.

As far as im concerned, when you die, thats it. Blackness. Its a situation that the mind simply cannot comprehend - not being able to think of things. Youre constantly thinking. Your mind is always doing SOMETHING. Even when you sleep (dreams, duh).

One simply cannot comprehend the thought of when you die, there is NOTHING. Thats it. The body dies, so does the mind. The two cant live without each other. We cant get to grips with the fact that theres nothing after death. No more thoughts, dreams etc.

And please, anyone that has a near death experience is full of it. And people that say 'i saw a bright light at the end of a tunnel'...please. No, that was just the surgery lights or the torch the paramedics use to see if you have a concussion when they shine it into your eyes. Man stfu.

Well how do you know? Have you died before? I think some were it dos say in the Bible do say something about some dead will be asleep and God will awake them...

How can you explain a person that was dead for 25 min. and comes back and he swears to you that there is God and a Heaven! Another dead for 5 min. and seen Hell... Their body died, and so did their mind, they were DEAD, AS DEAD THEY CAN BE... So I do not think it was just a surgery light...

I read a article a wile back about way of the two greatest scientist in the world that believe in God, after life, and Heaven, and Hell... They explain way and it was very intrusting... This magazine was not a Christian one ether. Their was also some thing on CNN talking about this... Another scientist was leaning to being a atheist and he says?... When I start learning more and more about science this actually brought me closer to God... He talked about when you do studies about the human mined he says many things that was very intrusting and one thing he said was how do I explain that all humans in this world has a true seance of rite and rong... He also talked about the big bang. He said that being a scientist and studding this, he said What caused the big bang? He explain Newton's 3rd law, so he said that what caused the big bang was God!

If that's the case, what's the point in even living? What purpose does consciousness even serve, if we're only along for the ride?

There is NO purpose to our exsitence, wwe exist simply because we do, because we have no choice (unless we kill ourlsevles). Why do stars exist? Why does the universe exist? It doesn't have a choice, it just exists, for no reason at all. The only purpose of our life is one we chose to make for ourselves.

What you sead dos not sound scientific nor religious, how about Newton's 3rd law? Some thing always happens...

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

So some of the greatest scientist are nut jobs? (whom ever sead that) Their is scientist explain God existence and the after life through science... Also science and philosophy can go hand to hand.






Well how do you know? Have you died before? I think some were it dos say in the Bible do say something about some dead will be asleep and God will awake them...

How can you explain a person that was dead for 25 min. and comes back and he swears to you that there is God and a Heaven! Another dead for 5 min. and seen Hell... Their body died, and so did their mind, they were DEAD, AS DEAD THEY CAN BE... So I do not think it was just a surgery light...

I read a article a wile back about way of the two greatest scientist in the world that believe in God, after life, and Heaven, and Hell... They explain way and it was very intrusting... This magazine was not a Christian one ether. Their was also some thing on CNN talking about this... Another scientist was leaning to being a atheist and he says?... When I start learning more and more about science this actually brought me closer to God... He talked about when you do studies about the human mined he says many things that was very intrusting and one thing he said was how do I explain that all humans in this world has a true seance of rite and rong... He also talked about the big bang. He said that being a scientist and studding this, he said What caused the big bang? He explain Newton's 3rd law, so he said that what caused the big bang was God!


What you sead dos not sound scientific nor religious, how about Newton's 3rd law? Some thing always happens...

Incorrect, Stephen Hawking proved that the big bang can have happened without a first event. While you can believe that god caused the big bang if you want, you don't need to.

 

[Jintor]

Well how do you know? Have you died before? I think some were it dos say in the Bible do say something about some dead will be asleep and God will awake them...

How can you explain a person that was dead for 25 min. and comes back and he swears to you that there is God and a Heaven! Another dead for 5 min. and seen Hell... Their body died, and so did their mind, they were DEAD, AS DEAD THEY CAN BE... So I do not think it was just a surgery light...

I read a article a wile back about way of the two greatest scientist in the world that believe in God, after life, and Heaven, and Hell... They explain way and it was very intrusting... This magazine was not a Christian one ether. Their was also some thing on CNN talking about this... Another scientist was leaning to being a atheist and he says?... When I start learning more and more about science this actually brought me closer to God... He talked about when you do studies about the human mined he says many things that was very intrusting and one thing he said was how do I explain that all humans in this world has a true seance of rite and rong... He also talked about the big bang. He said that being a scientist and studding this, he said What caused the big bang? He explain Newton's 3rd law, so he said that what caused the big bang was God!

Ok, so the equal and opposite reaction of a big bang is God. So God is therefore not a being, but instead some kind of massive explosion.

-_-

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Shift]

Well God in theory is meant to contain all power, so he existed before everything and used that 'all power' to create something as incredible as the big bang, and then let things run their course, i think thats what he is getting at, thats a theory i ponder over too.

He is true about some of the leading scientists in the world believing in God and an afterlife though.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Well God in theory is meant to contain all power, so he existed before everything and used that 'all power' to create something as incredible as the big bang, and then let things run their course, i think thats what he is getting at, thats a theory i ponder over too.

Its called Diesm, although some diests believe that God isn't even aware of our existence, or this universe even.

 

[Kyorisu]

I love this quote.

Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Lol perfect.

 

[Absinthe]

He is true about some of the leading scientists in the world believing in God and an afterlife though.

But he is dead wrong about saying they can explain God and the afterlife through science.

Also, no shit that philosophy and science can coexist. Philosophy isn't faith.

 

[Shift]

I love this quote.

A similar quote appeared in an R.E. lesson college last year (they are compulsory, its a catholic college, the price to pay for one of the best in the country ), and the teacher asked for our viewpoints on it.

The best theory i came up with was that God intended for the human race to have free will, so he created the universe via the big bang, and let it run its course without intervention, that the evil in the world is a creation of man, and only man can conquer it. However, i do believe that Godly inventions do occur in this life, like incredible coincidences that some people call fate, or 'destiny', or methods that could only be described as 'miracles'.

 

[Shift]

But he is dead wrong about saying they can explain God and the afterlife through science.

I agree, at the moment at least its impossible to prove the existance of God and an afterlife via facts of science, its all faith and opinion.

 

[Kyorisu]

However, i do believe that Godly inventions do occur in this life, like incredible coincidences that some people call fate, or 'destiny', or methods that could only be described as 'miracles'.

Fate? Destiny? Life is what you as a person make it. Why would god if he does exist want to intervene with that? And come now miracles? Anything is possible with the occasional exception.

 

[Shift]

No thats how i answered the question given to me, in the context of God existing. You are right about the impossible being possible, but sometimes things happen in this life that would baffle the greatest minds.

 

[Jintor]

It works out at some point; but the magic (or the faith, or the miracle if you prefer) is in the mystery.