Dragon Age: Origins

I havent got to the camp part and I just picked her up. she's kinda useless in comparison to the other people (morrigan, alistair).
 
Man, the replay value of this title is through the roof. Just going through the Dalish Elves storyline in the forest and man, the multiple ways that can play out are staggering. I like the way it worked out for me in the end last night:

Yeah, so a werewolf army is going to back me up against the Blight. How cool is that???
 
red headed chick in lothering. she's a bard not a ranger as Acepilot pointed out


also I just freed Sten and then my pc ****ing crashed. I thought he was a warrior? he's a rogue? would he be a good replacement for Alistair?
 
VictimOfScience said:
Wait, which one? Sten?
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Sten is a warrior. Great for tanking if you up his con. I had a bro who went rogue to start with and his team was Sten(for DPS), Alistair(for tanking), Morrigan(for spells and healing since he never got Wynne), and himself for rogue-ish duties.

My own team was Myself(for DPS, dual-handed warrior/templar), Alistair for tanking, Leliana for rogue-duties, and Wynne for healing.

Her name is Leliana. She approaches you in the tavern in Lothering near the start of the game and just says 'HEY LET ME GO WITH YOU'.

Goody-two shoes chantry bitch.

And Wynne is better than Morrigan especially if you're loading up Morrigan with healing spells.
 
funny I had to convince her to tag along after I slaughtered the soldiers in the bar where we met. I have thing for redheads, can I sleep with her?
 
Who is playing on the console version? (if anyone)

wanna know it is any good.
 
CptStern said:
I have thing for redheads, can I sleep with her?
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Undoubtedly.

The one cool ability Bards have is the song that restores peoples stamina. I found that bloody handy when fighting the undead, plus she's pretty handy with a bow.
 
Damn I want to play this so bad...

Let's say, if I fixed my video problems, and borrowed my friends PC copy, whould that work? Or is there some Disc protecting shit stoping me from installing it on my computer? Only played console version so far and I loved it.

I was an elvish commoner, and when going to save the wedding party, I woke up the sleeping guard and picked the "I wanted you to be awake for this (attack)" line and my character cut his throat.

Awesome.
 
At first I thought Leliana sucked as well, but once you get her some decent armour and a proper bow (the one you get from her sidequest is ace) she's actually very useful. The top level archery talents like arrow of slaying can dish out 200 damage with a single shot. Plus it's always useful having a rogue considering there's a heaps of locked chests everywhere you go. Trap-making's handy at times too, even the basic shrapnel ones.

Acepilotf14 said:
On another note, didn't they say this game was AT LEAST 60 hours long? So far the counter says 30 hours and I'm at the (supposedly) final battle in Denerim. This obviously doesn't count deaths and whatnot but still.

What the shit?
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Hmm. I'm just over 38 hours :)o) apparently, and I'm currently doing the Mage's tower, after which I've still got to visit the Dalish elves in the forest. What % complete are you? You can check on the character record screen under heroic accomplishments. I'm supposedly 32% complete with 59% of the world explored - and that's with a lot of sidequests done too.
 
All of you of course realize right, that you don't only get quests from NPC's or by following the games main plot? You can also find items out in the game world while exploring, which will add info to your codex & Journal. If you take the time to read it, you will then either learn outright or in some cases find a hint as to where a possible new quest is.

For example:

An example would be the "Rigby's" quest found just before you become a Grey Warden while searching for the vials of Blood & the Scrolls out in the Wilds. If you follow the clues that you find, you'll eventually be given a new quest to perform, which takes place later on. I was only given access to the quest, once I read the entries in my Codex & Journal after having found all the parts.

The more quests you unlock & worked through, the longer the game would take to complete.

I found a generic answer when I looked for the number of side quests. I read approx 75 side quests were avail to do as you played through the game, which were apart from the main story itself. Bioware is keeping a lid on the official exact number, though I read in more than one place that a rep stated it would have twice as many as Mass Effect did. Not sure how accurate that statement was though.

-MRG
 
Jimmeh said:
At first I thought Leliana sucked as well, but once you get her some decent armour and a proper bow (the one you get from her sidequest is ace) she's actually very useful. The top level archery talents like arrow of slaying can dish out 200 damage with a single shot. Plus it's always useful having a rogue considering there's a heaps of locked chests everywhere you go. Trap-making's handy at times too, even the basic shrapnel ones.
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so who should I drop from my party to make room for sten? I'm a rogue so I have high unlock and poison/trap making abilities. so out of Alistair, Morrigan and Leliana who should I drop for Sten?
 
CptStern said:
so who should I drop from my party to make room for sten? I'm a rogue so I have high unlock and poison/trap making abilities. so out of Alistair, Morrigan and Leliana who should I drop for Sten?
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In that case I'd drop Leliana. No real point in going around with two rogues, your party would be pretty lightweight if you did.

Also as I mentioned earlier, it would be a good idea to try and get the Cone of Cold spell for Morrigan as soon as you can. Easily one of the most useful spells in the game.
 
will look into it. I have wintery blast and that's pretty awesome as it stuns everybody
 
MRG said:
All of you of course realize right, that you don't only get quests from NPC's or by following the games main plot? You can also find items out in the game world while exploring, which will add info to your codex & Journal. If you take the time to read it, you will then either learn outright or in some cases find a hint as to where a possible new quest is.
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This. With my new build I've been taking a bit more time & I've been uncovering quite a few things. As you rightly say, they hint at things, more than anything else, but it's all in there. I'd say a Pen & Pad is an essential part of kit next to your mouse

Also the Tab Key is extremely useful because it highlights everything that the player can interact with in the cameras view. Great if you are looking from above, to search an area. On my first play through I completely missed the mercenary quest giver in the Tavern in Lothering for instance, as I just figured he was a local.

Worth reading the manual tbh

http://store.steampowered.com/manual/17450/
 
Yeah, and now I can't get back to Lothering to get her or do that quest at all. Just realized that too thanks to overhearing two commoners talking in the Denerim market. Oh well. Next playthrough. :)

Finally got enough coin together to buy the whole Blood Dragon armor set (that comes with the Collector's Edition). I have to say that I don't like it that much. Sure, it is great armor, but it looks a little silly--like a walking ad for the game. The helmet makes you look like KITT from the old Knight Rider TV show too. Ugh. Oh well. I am sure I will find a cooler looking set somewhere.

Still need to get Shale as well. Man, this is a BIG game.
 
Jimmeh said:
Hmm. I'm just over 38 hours :)o) apparently, and I'm currently doing the Mage's tower, after which I've still got to visit the Dalish elves in the forest. What % complete are you? You can check on the character record screen under heroic accomplishments. I'm supposedly 32% complete with 59% of the world explored - and that's with a lot of sidequests done too.
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At the end it was 90% of the world explored, 33 hours. I'm not sure what the complete was.

I beat it on my first run, the fatality on the archdemon was awesome.

Things I did not like;
-Like most modern games, I CAN'T ****ING READ ANYTHING ON A STANDARD DEF CRT, so half the time I was guessing if the item was better or not(yes, Xbox, as I do not have a decent computer regularly available)
-I only saw two dragons including the archdemon, and one of them I didn't even fight(and if I did I died more or less instantly)
-There was not enough snow
-The dated graphics started to bug me after a while
-Difficulty on 'normal' ranged from ridiculously easy to impossible hard
-I used the same armor for half the game and it was good the whole way through
-KNOCKBACK; KNOCKBACK; FREEZE; PARALYZE; KNOCKBACK


I got Wynne to wear full plate armor with 10 strength. Arcane Warrior is broken as hell.
 
It annoys me a bit that they have these amazing environments and architecture but then the place is populated with stiff NPC's that totally ruin the immersion.

Example - I walked into a little inn called The Spoiled Princess on the shores of an eerie lake and inside is the bartender and three or so shady characters all just standing still and stiff doing next to nothing. Would be so much believable if people were drinking ale, chatting, maybe warming themselves by the fire - at least a little life!

Otherwise enjoying the game so far - just got Alister the Templars armor so he looks pretty badass..
 
Finally finished my first playthrough and I gotta say, whilst the game definitely had it's ups and downs, that it's a very good game.

End-sequence was a bit bleh but most games end-sequences are these days.
 
how many hours did it take and did you ddo the majority of side quests?

I'm still in lothering, dropped illianan for sten and am doing some of the chantry quests ..the area outside of lothering is pretty lifeless ..is this the norm?
 
CptStern said:
how many hours did it take and did you ddo the majority of side quests?

I'm still in lothering, dropped illianan for sten and am doing some of the chantry quests ..the area outside of lothering is pretty lifeless ..is this the norm?
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It took me around 45 hours, I did do the majority of sidequests that I found in all areas.

Worth noting is I only spent the first 10-15 hours or so on Normal(on the console version), then I went down to Casual.

Reason? Because the game was in one second very easy then suddenly extremely hard, and the consoles shitty interface doesn't make things easier.
 
I have come across the difficulty "bug" ( I am playing the PC version un-patched & am aware that the 1.01 patch addresses some difficulty issues ) once or twice while playing the game on Hard difficulty, though it's not nearly as unbalanced as it was while I played on Normal. Sometimes the game would be overly easy, while at other times, my whole party would get owned within the first 30 seconds of combat.

Then I discovered that:

While at the first town you visit with Morrigan, which I think is called "Lothering", if you save the Dwarven father & son from the Darkspawn & don't tell them you are a Grey Warden, they will "show up" at your camp, where they have some fantastic goods for sale. Namely runes which add special properties to your weapons like Fire, Cold, Lightning & Darkspawn damage, which one of the Dwarves can imbue to your weapon. Not only do they make your weapon(s) glow with different effects, depending on the runes you use, they do an amazing amount of damage if "Grandmaster" level runes are used. They also happen to look pretty cool when you attack. Now during combat, I'll still take the same amount of damage as before, only I'll now dish out much, much more damage myself than I did pre-runes. I try to play as "Honest" a character as I can in-game, admitting that I am a Grey Warden, during conversations, but I found that the Dwarves didn't like that & so never showed up at camp.

I agree with djstoker. NPC's in towns just stand about. A few that offer dialogue, will make it obvious you should talk to them, but most of the others just stand around & do nothing. Kinda kills the immersion factor a little.

However, I am finding the game to be fantastic.

For those that have finished the game, & feel they did a good job looking everywhere or reading everything that was added to their Codex or Journal, exactly how many quests are listed as finished in your journal?

-MRG
 
Weird, I got the dwarves to show up even though I said I'm a grey warden, sounds more like that was a bug in the unpatched game, rather than an intentional decision?

AFAIK you get those guys in your camp regardless of what you do, according to the forums anyway, they're basically a guaranteed merchant.
 
Does this kill anyone elses CPU? I get higher temps on this than in any other game. I get 70 degrees max with most games, but this sends one of my cores to 72+ easy within 10 minutes. It maxed at 80 in the fade area.

http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php and leave it on in the BG.
 
Apparently quad core makes a huge difference to performance in this game. The last game I remember where quads made such a difference was GTA4, and that sent the temps on my dual core through the roof, so it makes sense that DA would be behave similarly.
 
Laivasse said:
Apparently quad core makes a huge difference to performance in this game. The last game I remember where quads made such a difference was GTA4, and that sent the temps on my dual core through the roof, so it makes sense that DA would be behave similarly.
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It doesn't, considering DA:O doesn't look better than NWN2, and NWN2 is from 2006 and runs fine on a dual-core.
 
My E6400 is a first generation Conroe dual core, which I am currently running at it's stock 2.13GHz. I played DAO for about 3 hours last night & then exited out & rebooted. I checked my CPU's temps via the Bios & my temps were normal @ 93f. I am using the stock cooler that came with the CPU.

DAO does not make my dual core run any warmer than normal it would appear. I wonder why it does for others?

-MRG
 
MRG said:
I played DAO for about 3 hours last night & then exited out & rebooted. I checked my CPU's temps via the Bios & my temps were normal @ 93f. I am using the stock cooler that came with the CPU.
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Key info to why the temps would be cooler :p
 
I honestly cannot believe the crazy length of some of these quests...

So I went to Redcliffe and after battling my way through the undead decided that rather than pop up stairs and knock Jim lads head off, or have Morrigan singularly battle the demon in the Fade at the cost of the Arless life, I'd go to the Mages tower to ask them to help.

But no, seems I've got to go into the tower and spend fricken 4 hours fighting my way up to the top floor killing undead, abominations, blood mages and assorted demons (only made bearable by the awesome magical combo of Wynne & Morrigan kicking ass and taking no prisoners, with myself & Alistair in tow).

I'm almost at the top, I'm thinking just another half hour or so and hopefully I can get back to Redcliffe & deliver those mushrooms & other stuff I've got in my quests to be completed box, but no instead some uber demon drags me & my homeboys & girls into the Fade & I have to spend another couple of hours figuring out the cats cradle of madness that constitutes waking up.....

What troubles me even more is the idea that, I'm almost certain that this uber demon isn't the Towers big bad.....

I just want to tick off a few missions god-damn it.....

also complete inability to offload loot in the Tower = Ass

This game is a serious Time Vampire...:|

:D
 
I think I may start over... even after having done 3/4 of the treaties missions.

I was having some serious problems with the bosses in the dwarf line of quests. Winning because I paused every couple seconds to down a health pot isn't very satisfying. The ****ed up thing is I have well over 100 of the things because I hadn't even had to use them until that point. I just get the feeling I'm doing stat point allocations all wrong and picked a few bad abilities, and it's starting to show. I've hated dumbass stat point allocation systems ever since Diablo. In D&D, you still had to do it, but just like one very few levels, and you always knew what to put it in.
 
Letters said:
I think I may start over... even after having done 3/4 of the treaties missions.

I was having some serious problems with the bosses in the dwarf line of quests. Winning because I paused every couple seconds to down a health pot isn't very satisfying. The ****ed up thing is I have well over 100 of the things because I hadn't even had to use them until that point. I just get the feeling I'm doing stat point allocations all wrong and picked a few bad abilities, and it's starting to show. I've hated dumbass stat point allocation systems ever since Diablo. In D&D, you still had to do it, but just like one very few levels, and you always knew what to put it in.
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http://www.gamebanshee.com/dragonageorigins/

check out the start builds for alistair, Morrigan & Leliana. I think they give good pointers as to the sort of attribute/skill mix you probably want to go with initially being Fighter, Offensive Mage & Distance Rogue effectively.

Also note that Morrigan is pretty good with herbs, whilst Leliana is a pretty good pickpocket, so unless you're intending to swap one of them out, there's not a whole lot of point building those skills beyond the beginning of the game.

Also reading the manual fully is a good idea. I really didn't take in how important Willpower is for all classes initially, because in my D&D addled head I associated Willpower with Wisdom (good for Mages) & kind of figured Stamina was coming out of constitution, rather than it just relating to hitpoints.

http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/17450/DRAGNORpcMAN(US).pdf?t=1257810949
 
KagePrototype said:
because you can measure a game's impact on your cpu by measuring how good it looks
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Exactly!! I'm glad we've reached an understanding, darling!

Anyway, I'm sorta bummed out you can't replay the game with your old characters ala Mass Effect 1, would've been fun.
 
Incidentally ppl, in the fade that spirit form is useful for finding things you ordinarily wouldn't see, or can't appear to activate esp if you want to get all of the bonuses :O
 
Kadayi said:
I honestly cannot believe the crazy length of some of these quests...

So I went to Redcliffe and after battling my way through the undead decided that rather than pop up stairs and knock Jim lads head off, or have Morrigan singularly battle the demon in the Fade at the cost of the Arless life, I'd go to the Mages tower to ask them to help.

But no, seems I've got to go into the tower and spend fricken 4 hours fighting my way up to the top floor killing undead, abominations, blood mages and assorted demons (only made bearable by the awesome magical combo of Wynne & Morrigan kicking ass and taking no prisoners, with myself & Alistair in tow).

I'm almost at the top, I'm thinking just another half hour or so and hopefully I can get back to Redcliffe & deliver those mushrooms & other stuff I've got in my quests to be completed box, but no instead some uber demon drags me & my homeboys & girls into the Fade & I have to spend another couple of hours figuring out the cats cradle of madness that constitutes waking up.....

What troubles me even more is the idea that, I'm almost certain that this uber demon isn't the Towers big bad.....

I just want to tick off a few missions god-damn it.....

also complete inability to offload loot in the Tower = Ass

This game is a serious Time Vampire...:|

:D
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I know exactly what you're talking about.
I'm doing the Orzammar line right now, and after trashing people in the proving and then bulldozing through a fortress of thugs and assassins, I need to empty out miles of tunnels in order to fight a multi-stage boss with minions. I think I'm gonna have to wait until I have something like 4 hours of free time to attempt this.

I was considering heading back to maybe fight the high dragon (and get owned) or do some side quests, but I'm so deep into the tunnels that it'll take forever to get back.

It really isn't nice to the casual gamer, what with the time commitment required. Unless you're okay with leaving things unfinished and disjointed.
 
MY PC copy has shipped! just waiting on the delivery. I still can't believe I got this for $20 :)
 
This game is a MAJOR time vampire.... Waaaaay too much dialogue. Like seriously, WTF, about double the dialogue of NWN2....and it's ALL spoken. Way to much time to complete quests / go anywhere / do anything / acomplish anything. I'm about to set the fights to easy, because I'm getting tired of pausing fights every 3 seconds to micromanage everyone.

I enjoy a game that lasts, more value for the money, but this is just a lot of time spent... without much feeling for action or accomplishment.
 
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