Homosexuality

[The Mullinator]

I don't see what is so right about 2 guys having sex, and what is so wrong with a guy having sex with a willing child. What is the difference?

Well first of all can you tell me what the similarities are? Because aside from the fact that both are illegal in some states I don't see what any possible similarities could be.

 

[Foxtrot]

The difference is evident in the question. One's a legal adult, the other is a child.

What two consenting adults get up to in their own rooms is none of your business

Legal is just a term defined by society and law, so in a sense homosexuality is illegal. Some similarites are: Both are abnormal, you can not get a guy pregnate by "blowing a load" in his ass, you also can't get young girls pregnat (depending on age). So if anything, having sex with children is more normal than having same gender sex.

 

[Feath]

For someone with the hammer and sickle as your avatar, you're rather right wing.

Sexual preference is just a preference. You wouldn't call anyone strange or morally wrong because they didn't like Star Trek. You would think "oh well, I like it a lot". Why would people finding people of the same sex. You could argue that it's against nature, but then again dogs are against nature. Farming is against nature. Medicine is against nature.

 

[$kelet0r]

Is homosexuality not alos defined by society because it wouldn't exist if human society didn't exist
and how is having sex with a preteen child in any way normal
geez this is all very worrying
You are saying that well if 2 consenting adults can do whatever they want in their private lives then its ok for anyone to do anything they want to - disturbing logic
so what it boils down to is that u are disgusted by the act of gay sex itself and nothing else regardless of personal freedoms, love, nature....
Man u are very very insecure about your sexuality

 

[PickledGecko]

People, today and historically, don’t always have sex just to have children. A sex drive and the eventual ejaculation is pleasurable, and throughout history people have engaged in sex or masturbation purely for the good feeling. Look at the way people behave as soon as contraception become available, the same amount of sex but with much smaller families. There is nothing wrong with enjoying an orgasm, even if it does not result in a pregnancy (unless your religion forbids it, but it’s your religion and has no bearing on anyone else).

As far a sex with children is concerned, pre-pubescent children do not have an adult sex drive. They can only be “willing” if the adult in question uses paedophile “tricks”. Such as, threats on them or their family or emotional blackmail, i.e. “Why won’t you do this, don’t you love me?” Even then, a “willing” child does not mean the child is enjoying it. I have never heard of a child who was molested and said they didn’t care or enjoyed it. All children describe some sort of coping mechanism that exists in humans to cope with severe psychological trauma, such as “disembodying” their mind and pretending they are watching the abuse happen to their body from, say the ceiling.

How anybody can say that abusing a child is the same as 2 consenting male adults engaging in sex boggles my mind.

 

[ALEXDJ]

you proudly have the hammer and sickle of the most depraved, evil and sick dictatorial regime to have ever existed on earth as your avatar

communism is "most depraved, evil and sick dictatorial regime"?

watch what you post

why do u assume that it's "proudly", maybe it a joke (sort of)?

 

[ALEXDJ]

How anybody can say that abusing a child is the same as 2 consenting male adults engaging in sex boggles my mind.

once again, it nowhere near being the same, but it's the same in the way of abnormal sexual activity

 

[qckbeam]

I don't see what is so right about 2 guys having sex, and what is so wrong with a guy having sex with a willing child. What is the difference?

An eight year old boy can not be called a "willing" participant in sex with a forty year old man. An eight year old is not in possesion of a fully developed adult brain, and is not capable of understanding what sex is. You obviously don't have the slightest goddamn clue just what sexual abuse can do to a person. It ruins your ability to put trust in other people, it ruins your ability to become intimate with another, it ruins your self-esteem. You become depressed because of it, you dream about it, you have flashbacks. You end up feeling like a worthless piece of shit because some disgusting excuse for a human being decided it would be fun to coax you into sex, or physically force you into it.

 

[jondy]

once again, it nowhere near being the same, but it's the same in the way of abnormal sexual activity

'It nowhere near being the same'.

Reckon you just answered your previous question

 

[ALEXDJ]

For someone with the hammer and sickle as your avatar, you're rather right wing.

Sexual preference is just a preference. You wouldn't call anyone strange or morally wrong because they didn't like Star Trek. You would think "oh well, I like it a lot". Why would people finding people of the same sex. You could argue that it's against nature, but then again dogs are against nature. Farming is against nature. Medicine is against nature.

i'm not any wing, second, it's my right to think and say that homosexuality is an abnormal sexual practice, that i don't agree with



let me ask all of you a question

let's say your SON comes up to you and says "Daddy (or Mommy), I really don't know who i am attracted more, men or women, who do you think i should be attracted to more (if i am a boy)."

now, please, be complitly honest, and don't fix your answer in order to prove me and couple other people wrong

 

[Tr0n]

Like I suggested in a previous thread...


Lets all have hawt man sechs and see what the whole fuss is about.

 

[ALEXDJ]

An eight year old boy can not be called a "willing" participant in sex with a forty year old man. An eight year old is not in possesion of a fully developed adult brain, and is not capable of understanding what sex is. You obviously don't have the slightest goddamn clue just what sexual abuse can do to a person. It ruins your ability to put trust in other people, it ruins your ability to become intimate with another, it ruins your self-esteem. You become depressed because of it, you dream about it, you have flashbacks. You end up feeling like a worthless piece of shit because some disgusting excuse for a human being decided it would be fun to coax you into sex, or physically force you into it.

good point, but let's drop the connection between child molestation and homosexuality

ps
to everybody

 

[jondy]

let me ask all of you a question

let's say your SON comes up to you and says "Daddy (or Mommy), I really don't know who i am attracted more, men or women, who do you think i should be attracted to more (if i am a boy)."

now, please, be complitly honest, and don't fix your answer in order to prove me and couple other people wrong

You're making the mistake of assuming that homosexuality is a choice. For the most part it's not.

EDIT: It was the anti-gay people that bought up the connection between child molestation and homosexuality... don't back away from what you thought was a coherent argument unless you admit you're wrong

 

[Murray_H]

let's say your SON comes up to you and says "Daddy (or Mommy), I really don't know who i am attracted more, men or women, who do you think i should be attracted to more (if i am a boy)."

now, please, be complitly honest, and don't fix your answer in order to prove me and couple other people wrong

I think any good parent would tell their kid it's up to them who they find attractive.

 

[ALEXDJ]

something you cant find,cant loose,eh ok?do you have any coherent arguments?also what are you on about 'dont mistake attraction for love',i'll say it again,you believe gay people cant fall in love with 1 another

ok, my PERSONAL (key word) believe, is that you can't fall in love

see the way they i look at it

when you "fall in love" you want to be with that person

"want to"(key word) - something that is far from love

i think love is when you don't "want" anything, you just love
as i said, there is only ONE LOVE, the same love for your mother, for your wife(if you love her), for your God... it's all but One Feeling, One Love







Phrase from an art work:
"When we used to be lovers, I loved you with all my heart."

 

[qckbeam]

good point, but let's drop the connection between child molestation and homosexuality

ps
to everybody

I was explaining to Foxtrot just how backwards his way of thinking was, so waht do you mean by telling me "but let's drop the connection child molestation and homosexuality"? You brought this angle up.

 

[ALEXDJ]

I think any good parent would tell their kid it's up to them who they find attractive.

dude, part of the question is that the kid is confused, HE doesn't know.

 

[ALEXDJ]

You're making the mistake of assuming that homosexuality is a choice. For the most part it's not.

EDIT: It was the anti-gay people that bought up the connection between child molestation and homosexuality... don't back away from what you thought was a coherent argument unless you admit you're wrong

so, you can't anwenser my question?

 

[Murray_H]

dude, part of the question is that the kid is confused, HE doesn't know.

Well no-one can decide for him, and if he thinks he likes both sexes equally then I guess he's bisexual. And there's nothing wrong with that!

 

[qckbeam]

dude, part of the question is that the kid is confused, HE doesn't know.

So you sit them down and say something like "This is a confusing and difficult part of life for everyone. My advice to you is this- don't worry about it. Your sexuality is a small part of who you are and will clear itself up as you grow older. There is no rush to define yourself, and there is no right or wrong answer. Whatever conclusions you come to just know that your mother and I will always love you, and you'll always be our son."

 

[gh0st]

ditto,love is love you homo............phobe

Really so is it love if I "love" a horse? What if a little kid loves me and I love that little kid? Is that "love"? **** no. If its ok for people of the same sex to "love" each other, it should be ok for me to love whatever animal, child, inanimate object, I want to. Are you going to claim that isnt love?

Fact is, homosexuality goes against any evolutionary principle ever. We breed to reproduce. Things are set up in that way. Homosexuality IS a mental disorder. Imagine if everybody was gay. We'd be absolutely ****ed as a species. Does this make sense? I'm not against gay people, but I am against their lifestyle.

 

[ALEXDJ]

Well no-one can decide for him, and if he thinks he likes both sexes equally then I guess he's bisexual. And there's nothing wrong with that!

So, You would tell your little kid: "Well, son, since you can't deside, you should have relationships with both girls and guys."

Being complitly honest, that is what you would tell your kid, right?

i'm not judging you by any means, so be cool

 

[Feath]

i'm not any wing, second, it's my right to think and say that homosexuality is an abnormal sexual practice, that i don't agree with



let me ask all of you a question

let's say your SON comes up to you and says "Daddy (or Mommy), I really don't know who i am attracted more, men or women, who do you think i should be attracted to more (if i am a boy)."

now, please, be complitly honest, and don't fix your answer in order to prove me and couple other people wrong

I'd say "Son, you're a bit too young to ask that. Come back when you call me 'dad'. By by then you'll probably know if you are attracted to women or men".

 

[ALEXDJ]

Really so is it love if I "love" a horse? What if a little kid loves me and I love that little kid? Is that "love"? **** no. If its ok for people of the same sex to "love" each other, it should be ok for me to love whatever animal, child, inanimate object, I want to. Are you going to claim that isnt love?

Fact is, homosexuality goes against any evolutionary principle ever. We breed to reproduce. Things are set up in that way. Homosexuality IS a mental disorder. Imagine if everybody was gay. We'd be absolutely ****ed as a species. Does this make sense? I'm not against gay people, but I am against their lifestyle.

love and sex, have very little connection (at least in my world)

 

[qckbeam]

Really so is it love if I "love" a horse? What if a little kid loves me and I love that little kid? Is that "love"? **** no. If its ok for people of the same sex to "love" each other, it should be ok for me to love whatever animal, child, inanimate object, I want to. Are you going to claim that isnt love?

Fact is, homosexuality goes against any evolutionary principle ever. We breed to reproduce. Things are set up in that way. Homosexuality IS a mental disorder. Imagine if everybody was gay. We'd be absolutely ****ed as a species. Does this make sense? I'm not against gay people, but I am against their lifestyle.

You can't love an animal in the same way you can love a human being simply because it is not human. Love is something that needs to be given and gotten. A horse can not show you "love" in the way another human can. A horse can show affection for you if you you take care of it, and are kind to it.

Sexual love for a child is harmful to that child, as I explained before. It's impossible for a child to grasp the concept of sex, and it has horrible after-effects. An adult that would do this to a child lusts after them, it's the furthest thing from love there is.

 

[The Monkey]

The EDIT button is there for a reason.

I disagree with many of you. I think that homosexuality is a choise, one that everybody makes, whether you're aware of it or not. I don't think you're born with it, but rather develops it as you grow and mature. If they live in a society where it's alright to be gay, they will have a better time develop it, but if they live in a society that does, they will try to adapt to the "ideal".

 

[Feath]

love and sex, have very little connection (at least in my world)

Sex and you have very little connexion.

Bom bom tish.

 

[gh0st]

You can't love an animal in the same way you can love a human being simply because it is not human. Love is something that needs to be given and gotten. A horse can not show you "love" in the way another human can. A horse could show affection.
Sexual love for a child is harmful to that child, as I explained before. It's impossible for a child to grasp the concept of sex, and it has horrible after-effects. An adult that would do this to a child lusts after them, it's the furthest thing from love there is.

You cant prove any of what you just said. Can you prove my girlfriend loves me? Can you prove my mom loves me? Can you prove my cat loves me? Who are you to judge?

 

[Kangy]

i'm not any wing, second, it's my right to think and say that homosexuality is an abnormal sexual practice, that i don't agree with



let me ask all of you a question

let's say your SON comes up to you and says "Daddy (or Mommy), I really don't know who i am attracted more, men or women, who do you think i should be attracted to more (if i am a boy)."

now, please, be complitly honest, and don't fix your answer in order to prove me and couple other people wrong

I'd say that it's not up to me to decide things for them, as they're not me, and they should find it in themselves, or think about it in time if they can't. I'd tell them I'd accept whatever they chose, because they'd be my children, and I'd love them no matter what they wanted to do with their lives.

 

[Mr Stabby]

I dont see why you should think you should have the right to dictate to adults what they want to do if it does not harm others.

I also think its funny how so many homophbic people have nothing against lesbians

 

[qckbeam]

You cant prove any of what you just said. Can you prove my girlfriend loves me? Can you prove my mom loves me? Can you prove my cat loves me? Who are you to judge?

I can tell you that a cat, while it can show affection for its owners, is not capable of loving you in the way a human being can, at least by my definition of love. My dog for example: She doesn't love me in the way my parents love me. She is affectionate towards me. I take care of her. I feed her, take her for walks, and play with her. I'm very fond of her. But she only shows me affection because I'm her care-giver, she just isn't capable of understanding anything beyond that, and I'm certain she has no concept of love unconditionally. If I were mean to her, and she had someone else to feed her, pet her, and play with her, she'd leave without thinking twice. As for your mom or girlfriend, I have no idea who they are, but since they are human beings I'd say they are capable of human love.

 

[gh0st]

I can tell you that a cat, while it can show affection for its owners, is not capable of loving you in the way a human being can, at least by my definition of love. As for your mom or girlfriend, I have no idea who they are, but since they are human beings they are capable of human love.

Ok, so if I love my mom and she loves me, should that be ok?

By love I'm talking about sexual attraction. How is homosexuality ok, and that isnt?

 

[willyd]

I'd say "Son, you're a bit too young to ask that. Come back when you call me 'dad'. By by then you'll probably know if you are attracted to women or men".

Im not gonna lie, that was by far the best answer I've heard.

 

[The Monkey]

Really so is it love if I "love" a horse? What if a little kid loves me and I love that little kid? Is that "love"? **** no. If its ok for people of the same sex to "love" each other, it should be ok for me to love whatever animal, child, inanimate object, I want to. Are you going to claim that isnt love?

Fact is, homosexuality goes against any evolutionary principle ever. We breed to reproduce. Things are set up in that way. Homosexuality IS a mental disorder. Imagine if everybody was gay. We'd be absolutely ****ed as a species. Does this make sense? I'm not against gay people, but I am against their lifestyle.

You know, in one blow I lost all the respect for you. We, as the human race, are since long far beyond the simple laws of nature. We have developed many different ways of life. Humans ditters on all fronts of society, including the sexual one.

It's against the "evolutionary principle" to save lives by medicine, by settle on other other places. It was against the evolutionary principle to climb down from the trees, it was against the evolutionary principle to leave africa. It's against the evolutionary principle to care about other people, since only one own's life is important. The very progress of humanity is against evolutionary principle.

Good night.

 

[Tr0n]

You cant prove any of what you just said. Can you prove my girlfriend loves me? Can you prove my mom loves me? Can you prove my cat loves me? Who are you to judge?

Nah...your gf is probally cheating on you, your mom considers you a red headed step child, and your cat wants to kill you in your sleep.




J/k! I <3 you gh0st.Not the gay I want to be your lover kind of love tho...


But I still don't see how being gay is not normal since it's been around since the dawn of man.Also you need to read that post gh0st....who are you to judge who loves who?So what if a man loves another man or a women loves another women sexually?Hell do you look at lesbian porn?Most guys do...

 

[gh0st]

Nah...your gf is probally cheating on you, your mom considers you a red headed step child, and your cat wants to kill you in your sleep.




J/k I <3 you gh0st.Not the gay I want to be your lover kind of love tho...


But I still don't see how being gay is not normal since it's been around since the dawn of man.Also you need to read that post gh0st....who are you to judge who loves love?So what if a man loves another man or a women loves another women sexually?Hell do you look at lesbian porn?Most guys do...

I hope she is, I hate that bitch. Both of them!!

I'm not one to judge love, but neither is anybody else. I'm willing to stick with the status quo of men+women. I find homosexuality unnatural and grossly backwards in thinking. Lesbian porn... no, actually I try to avoid that. Unless they are making out, then its hot. But we all know lesbians are ugly anyway (yes, stereotyping, I'm just kidding).

You know, in one blow I lost all the respect for you. We, as the human race, are since long far beyond the simple laws of nature. We have developed many different ways of life. Humans ditters on all fronts of society, including the sexual one.

I hope I can regain your respect, it means so much to me :upstare: If you loes respect for people based upon their opinion, your respect means nothing to me.

Humans do indeed "ditter" in many respects. We are, however, all still human, and there are certain things that all humans have in common. That it is 'right' (in MY and many others opinion) for men to love women, etc.

It's against the "evolutionary principle" to save lives by medicine, by settle on other other places. It was against the evolutionary principle to climb down from the trees, it was against the evolutionary principle to leave africa. It's against the evolutionary principle to care about other people, since only one own's life is important. The very progress of humanity is against evolutionary principle.

What? Evolution means MOVING FORWARD, by gaining tactile skills and intelligence. All of those things are moving forward. If we had your definition of evolution we'd be living in trees still? Holy dog shit, thank you Darwin!

 

[Lemonking]

I dont mind
as long as the gays leave me alone
did you guys know that there are only pretty lesbians in pron not in real life?

 

[Foxtrot]

I dont mind
as long as the gays leave me alone
did you guys know that there are only pretty lesbians in pron not in real life?

Yah, there is a HUGE difference between porn lesbians and real life ones, I know a few IRL...

 

[Lemonking]

Yah, there is a HUGE difference between porn lesbians and real life ones, I know a few IRL...

I know 2 Lesbos there so ugly that I think that they only became lesbians cuz there so friggin ugly and couldnt get a boy friend

 

[Mr Stabby]

I
did you guys know that there are only pretty lesbians in pron not in real life?

;( nooooooooo :cheese: