I have social problems (with girls). Is this normal or do I need professional help?

[CptStern]

So I will go to hell if I have premarital sex?

....somehow I dont think that'll be a problem

 

[madog]

....somehow I dont think that'll be a problem

lol well at least you got that goin for ya. Plus you won't get STDs. If you get real lonely you could always jerk off? But thatd just make you feel worse. Oh well, that's life for ya.

 

[Pressure]

You know how the song goes, "Hell ain't a bad place, Hell is from here to eternity."

 

[madog]

You know how the song goes, "Hell ain't a bad place, Hell is from here to eternity."

Uh, that means its endless and you never get out, soooo yes, it is bad, unless you enjoy your own pain and suffering amongst the demons and flames.

 

[Tr0n]

Emo emo emo emo emo.

 

[madog]

Emo emo emo emo emo.

What makes you think that?

 

[kngHenry]

....somehow I dont think that'll be a problem

I don't read the Bible, and I could give you a list of all the sins I have committed in the past week. Not that I am proud of any of that. Now, I have never mentioned this before, so considered yourself privileged... I feel that if I have premarital sex I will go to hell. It's weird, because if I cared so much (not that I don't care, I just don't try hard enough) I would probably be a better person in general. But I just keep thinking of sex as a mortal sin... CptStern, do you think that's an excuse I am making to rationalize my failure to get laid?

 

[madog]

I don't read the Bible, and I could give you a list of all the sins I have committed in the past week. Not that I am proud of any of that. Now, I have never mentioned this before, so considered yourself privileged... I feel that if I have premarital sex I will go to hell. It's weird, because if I cared so much (not that I don't care, I just don't try hard enough) I would probably be a better person in general. But I just keep thinking of sex as a mortal sin... CptStern, do you think that's an excuse I am making to rationalize my failure to get laid?

Dude don;t worry bout it. God probably feels sorry for you right now. But you know if you try thats what counts. Many people have that problem. Plus its not a MORTAL sin. That would be like killing someone or adultery i think. I just think these rules were made because in the end it will contribute to your hapiness and you will have more fun with sex if you do follow it. MAybe, but what the heck I'm no sex expert or God.

 

[Pressure]

Uh, that means its endless and you never get out, soooo yes, it is bad, unless you enjoy your own pain and suffering amongst the demons and flames.

It's a song don't worry about it. Iron Maiden rocks by the way. Plus, you don't even know if hell exists.

Anyways, I think mail order brides are your type of thing then.

 

[madog]

It's a song don't worry about it. Iron Maiden rocks by the way. Plus, you don't even know if hell exists.

Anyways, I think mail order brides are your type of thing then.

Lol, i never listen to Iron Maiden but a similar band.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I don't read the Bible, and I could give you a list of all the sins I have committed in the past week. Not that I am proud of any of that. Now, I have never mentioned this before, so considered yourself privileged... I feel that if I have premarital sex I will go to hell. It's weird, because if I cared so much (not that I don't care, I just don't try hard enough) I would probably be a better person in general. But I just keep thinking of sex as a mortal sin... CptStern, do you think that's an excuse I am making to rationalize my failure to get laid?

According to my Catholic mate, its not THAT big a sin. Just have to repent for a bit.

Besides, I'm going to get stuck at the very bottom layers of Hell if it's true.

Conclusion: Talk to women. You shouldn't give a shit what they think - just talk to them. That's the biggest hurdle.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[madog]

According to my Catholic mate, its not THAT big a sin. Just have to repent for a bit.

Besides, I'm going to get stuck at the very bottom layers of Hell if it's true.

Conclusion: Talk to women. You shouldn't give a shit what they think - just talk to them. That's the biggest hurdle.

-Angry Lawyer

Lol, ya. You could always hope for Purgatory, at least you'd know you'll get to heaven. But back to the topic. Dude anyone could get a girl. Theres probably some that thought you were cute or whatever but you were just too shy to talk. So dont miss out if you dont wanna. Tis your choice.

 

[kngHenry]

Conclusion: Talk to women. You shouldn't give a shit what they think - just talk to them. That's the biggest hurdle.

-Angry Lawyer

Oh, but what if they take my friendship the wrong way and want me to have sex with them? I won't let them drag me to hell.

 

[madog]

Oh, but what if they take my friendship the wrong way and want me to have sex with them? I won't let them drag me to hell.

Wasn't that what you were wanting before, and not really whores. Some are just more into sex then others. DUDE, and i told you. It doesn't mean you get auto-damned if you have sex before marriage. But I think the same way as you do, so im not so sure.

 

[Tr0n]

Oh for god sakes...Ok you're never going to get laid and get married. You will die alone and un-happy.

So ether get some balls and go for it...or just stop being so damn down about it.

 

[CyberPitz]

Lol, ya. You could always hope for Purgatory, at least you'd know you'll get to heaven. But back to the topic. Dude anyone could get a girl. Theres probably some that thought you were cute or whatever but you were just too shy to talk. So dont miss out if you dont wanna. Tis your choice.

CONTRADICTION TIME! I'm sure no gal has ever found me "cute", but merely dated me out of sadness.

Back to the Topic at 88 mph.

Just talk to a few gals. Get to know then, let them get to know you...you'll be fine. There's always a girl out there for some guy. Or just do like my dad says.

"Quit looking. You'll find the one when you aren't trying."

I believe it, but need something to fill that void for the time being

 

[CptStern]

I don't read the Bible, and I could give you a list of all the sins I have committed in the past week. Not that I am proud of any of that. Now, I have never mentioned this before, so considered yourself privileged... I feel that if I have premarital sex I will go to hell. It's weird, because if I cared so much (not that I don't care, I just don't try hard enough) I would probably be a better person in general. But I just keep thinking of sex as a mortal sin... CptStern, do you think that's an excuse I am making to rationalize my failure to get laid?

no ....I think this is all a load of shit and you've joined us just to have some fun at our expense ....no one could possibly be that fractured ...at one point you said you only get laid if you're lucky ...obviously you didnt care about going to hell back then ....second, you mentioned you're 25 yet earlier you referred to yourself as a "kid" ..third of all ...for someone who's socially obtuse ..you dont seem to have a problem sharing ideas on the internet or talking about personal issues, that should be part of your personality in real life ..people dont stray that much from reality in their online personas ....you just sound too needy yet remarkedly confident at times ...I could br wrong but I dont think you're genuine

 

[madog]

Oh for god sakes...Ok you're never going to get laid and get married. You will die alone and un-happy.

So ether get some balls and go for it...or just stop being so damn down about it.

Hey come on, be nice. He's contemplating a tough choice. Not every guy just wants to have sex for fun. Maybe some want to save it for that special person and thats a wise choice.

 

[kngHenry]

Theres probably some that thought you were cute or whatever but you were just too shy to talk. So dont miss out if you dont wanna. Tis your choice.

I remember this girl in high school who said I was cute. Then this other girl who asked a friend of mine to introduce me to her... I made an ASS out of myself in such a small amount of time, I should be awarded a medal or something. Do you think I could have scored with those chicks if I had been more astute? Maybe they were not thinking sex? Or were they? How the **** can I tell?

 

[madog]

I remember this girl in high school who said I was cute. Then this other girl who asked a friend of mine to introduce me to her... I made an ASS out of myself in such a small amount of time, I should be awarded a medal or something. Do you think I could have scored with those chicks if I had been more astute? Maybe they were not thinking sex? Or were they? How the **** can I tell?

Just play it cool and get to know what kind of person they are. Ask about stuff they like to do.

 

[kngHenry]

no ....I think this is all a load of shit and you've joined us just to have some fun at our expense ....no one could possibly be that fractured ...at one point you said you only get laid if you're lucky ...obviously you didnt care about going to hell back then ....second, you mentioned you're 25 yet earlier you referred to yourself as a "kid" ..third of all ...for someone who's socially obtuse ..you dont seem to have a problem sharing ideas on the internet or talking about personal issues, that should be part of your personality in real life ..people dont stray that much from reality in their online personas ....you just sound too needy yet remarkedly confident at times ...I could br wrong but I dont think you're genuine

CptStern, if it is starting to sound like "I am making this up" maybe I do need professional help after all.

Edit: can you show me where I said I was a "kid"?

Also, the internet is anonymous. If I talked in person to other people then I always run the risk that they'll go and tell their friends and then they'll make fun of me. See the difference?

Yeah it's weird, I feel confident but at the same time I don't. Maybe I am crazy?

 

[madog]

CptStern, if it is starting to sound like "I am making this up" maybe I do need professional help after all.

Ah cmon, he's just being a mean bastard like a lot of people are in this world. Just brush it off.

 

[CptStern]

CptStern, if it is starting to sound like "I am making this up" maybe I do need professional help after all.

well there are some inconsitencies in your story

Edit: can you show me where I said I was a "kid"?

you're not going to make me search through 18 pages are ya?

Also, the internet is anonymous. If I talked in person to other people then I always run the risk that they'll go and tell their friends and then they'll make fun of me. See the difference?

so in other words on the internet you're captain personality but in real life you're meek dood?


madog: no, I'm not being a mean bastard, I'm just stating my opinion

 

[madog]

ok well he is a "kid" My dad is 50 sumthin and he always refers to anyone in there 20s as kids. So give the "kid" a break

 

[kngHenry]

so in other words on the internet you're captain personality but in real life you're meek dood?

Do I sound like captain personality to you?

 

[madog]

Do I sound like captain personality to you?

I think he's pretty cool. Having some personality and being meek is better than being and egotistical sex craving typical guy.

 

[CptStern]

caught you in a lie:


you said:

"who doesn't know how to seduce a woman, almost never gets laid, and when he does, it is mainly out of luck"


yet later on you said:

"I have never seen any action so either one would be fine"



so which one is it? either you occasionally gety lucky or you're a virgin ...cant be both

 

[madog]

he was talkin about the average guy... not himself

 

[kngHenry]

caught you in a lie:


you said:

"who doesn't know how to seduce a woman, almost never gets laid, and when he does, it is mainly out of luck"


yet later on you said:

"I have never seen any action so either one would be fine"



so which one is it? either you occasionally gety lucky or you're a virgin ...cant be both

No CptStern, you took that one out of context. That comes from the first post where I explained fastseduction.com's definition of an Average Frustrated Chump, or AFC. They teach AFC's how to become PUA's (pick up artists). So the problem I had was that I did not even qualify as an AFC, because I have never been laid, not even out of luck.

 

[CptStern]

alright fair enough ..you led me to think you arent a virgin ...still dont think you're that geniune.

 

[madog]

alright fair enough ..you led me to think you arent a virgin ...still dont think you're that geniune.

Well that spells victory for King but he still has the girl problem. But hey with all this fighting you've probably forgotten about em anyway! Your cured!

 

[bam23]

I remember this girl in high school who said I was cute. Then this other girl who asked a friend of mine to introduce me to her... I made an ASS out of myself in such a small amount of time, I should be awarded a medal or something. Do you think I could have scored with those chicks if I had been more astute? Maybe they were not thinking sex? Or were they? How the **** can I tell?

#1 rule, you never talk about sex unless she is the one that started it.

 

[kngHenry]

alright fair enough ..you led me to think you arent a virgin ...still dont think you're that geniune.

What happens is that you had never met such a sincere person before, so everything I say sounds unusual because most people don't have the balls to talk about this stuff (not even online). Take for example, this thread. Why do you think there has been so much interest in this thread? They all feel the same way to some extent, but they don't have the courage to admit it.

You make an interesting point though. You say that online I talk freely about my feelings and that it is unlikely that I am not like this in real life. Let me tell you a story. I have only had two very close friends in my life (one from high school, another one from college) with whom I have talked freely about this type of stuff. I can only imagine that I bored them to death because then all of a sudden I never saw them or heard from them again... So maybe you are implying that I should apply my willingness to talk about these issues the next time I meet a woman, but yet everyone tells me that I have to put on a show, and make them laugh, and be confident and so on...Realistically, how many women out there are willing to listen to all my problems and then repay that sincerity with a romantic relationship, or sex, or even a second date?

 

[ComradeBadger]

Don't ever talk about your problems. It's ****ing boring, so don't expect a woman to listen - unless she's a friend

[I have a female friend who I can chat to about all these things, she's just a mate, but close as a sister]

 

[sabre0001]

i got my best friend in bed even after telling her most things (depression, long term sickness, etc - shows feelings i suppose) about me...Best thing is...Still just friends - no commitment there! And King - you will know when she wants it...Make the move, God loves a tryer... You will know in a heartbeat either way.

The only way you can do this is use everything as a learning experience...Maybe you need a holiday with some guy friends abroad - use that as a learning experience or go to some city...You wont know girls there, they wont know you - you'll never see them again, what have you got to lose...Think that any girl who rejects you is missing out. Confidence is key!

 

[CptStern]

What happens is that you had never met such a sincere person before, so everything I say sounds unusual because most people don't have the balls to talk about this stuff (not even online).

nope, it's not that ...I've worked in the mental health field for 7 years ...I've seen things that's make your condition look like a mosquito bite in comaprison ...I dont fault your honesty, I question it...there's a difference

Take for example, this thread. Why do you think there has been so much interest in this thread? They all feel the same way to some extent, but they don't have the courage to admit it.

yes but by your own admission, you're not like other people

You make an interesting point though. You say that online I talk freely about my feelings and that it is unlikely that I am not like this in real life. Let me tell you a story. I have only had two very close friends in my life (one from high school, another one from college) with whom I have talked freely about this type of stuff. I can only imagine that I bored them to death because then all of a sudden I never saw them or heard from them again... So maybe you are implying that I should apply my willingness to talk about these issues the next time I meet a woman, but yet everyone tells me that I have to put on a show, and make them laugh, and be confident and so on...Realistically, how many women out there are willing to listen to all my problems and then repay that sincerity with a romantic relationship, or sex, or even a second date?

would you be interested in someone droning on and on about their problems ...no one like a downer ..they tend to depress the people around them ...and in that sense they're shunned





you know come to think of it you sound like one of my first girlfriends (well the inability to listen to advice and the constant neurotic need to believe something was wrong with her)

no joke but she ended having a nervous breakdown (years after we parted ways) and was institutionalised for a number of weeks ...I think she's still nutty


no one here can give you the help you need ...if you're telling us the truth that is

 

[madog]

i got my best friend in bed even after telling her most things (depression, long term sickness, etc - shows feelings i suppose) about me...Best thing is...Still just friends - no commitment there! And King - you will know when she wants it...Make the move, God loves a tryer... You will know in a heartbeat either way.

The only way you can do this is use everything as a learning experience...Maybe you need a holiday with some guy friends abroad - use that as a learning experience or go to some city...You wont know girls there, they wont know you - you'll never see them again, what have you got to lose...Think that any girl who rejects you is missing out. Confidence is key!

God loves someone who tries to sin? Makes sense? Well I guess he still does.

 

[sabre0001]

he apparantly hates a planner too - there, my profound words of wisdom for the day....

 

[madog]

he apparantly hates a planner too - there, my profound words of wisdom for the day....

He doesnt hate... And that all depends on what the person is planning to do.

 

[sabre0001]

hey knghenry theres supposed to be an approach to help leave problems behind - write down all the stuff that bothers you, your problems or about yourself or whatever...just rant...and then take those pages and burn them and focus on changing what was bothering you...

Seemed to work for me, i became much happier because what was bothering me was in the past, i just tended to replay it in my mind and all (kind of like what you do) - i would put myself down and be negative...Try it - cant hurt now can it.

But focus on changing what was bothering you, appreciate positives more, etc...