Inauguration '05

[Absinthe]

You've got to be kidding me right? If you want, I can go pull up a couple thousand websites based solely on the claims that bush is stupid, too much of an idiot to be president, the devil, evil, looks like a monkey(personal appearance assault), and many other things. Nearly every single anti bush website run by <gasp> anti bushies, focuses on the fact that they think bush is a moron, and attack his person, rather than his record.

Go ahead then. Monkey similarities? They're ****ing jokes, man.

I've read plenty of websites that attack Bush's record, as well as many that attack Bush himself. But you have to be shitting me if you think that a vocal internet community represents every single liberal against Bush.

I'd be surprised if you people would be any different if a candidate you loathed was in office.

 

[Raziaar]

Go ahead then. Monkey similarities? They're ****ing jokes, man.

I've read plenty of websites that attack Bush's record, as well as many that attack Bush himself. But you have to be shitting me if you think that a vocal internet community represents every single liberal against Bush.

I'd be surprised if you people would be any different a candidate you loathed was in office.

I don't think it represents every person against bush. I think it represents many. I've observed people from your view who have personally attacked Bush's character on these forums, and I just fail to see why they're even interested in defending against that now.

And yes, the monkey stuff is a joke, but many of the things I have read/been witness to, have been downright cruel.

 

[qckbeam]

Heh, and the Brits are apparently doing the same thing even to Tony Blair. Granted, I know nothing about Tony Blair, so I won't say one way or another... but damn, this is the kind of stuff i'm talking about.

http://wheresdave.blog-city.com/read/456698.htm

Like Absinthe said, the extremist voices heard on the internet hardly represent the opinions of all liberals. I don't care how many sites you can dig up mocking Bush or declaring hate for him or whatever. I can dig up just as many to show off the uglier, extremist side of conservatives, but I don’t declare them to represent the ideals held by the majority, or even many, of you.

It's the internet. Any psychotic can start up a site and post whatever they wish.

 

[Absinthe]

I don't think it represents every person against bush. I think it represents many. I've observed people from your view who have personally attacked Bush's character on these forums, and I just fail to see why they're even interested in defending against that now.

And I've read just as many attacks on Kerry and anti-Bushies on plenty of other forums. Hell, I've seen people on this very forum accuse others of being cowards for not supporting Bush, or making fun of Kerry for using Botox.

Two can play at this game, Raziaar. If you want to list websites and posts to support yourself, then I'll do just the same. But I really don't see the point in it. They don't represent their respective "sides" on the whole, and it would just turn into an endless cycle of trying to get one up over the other. :/

 

[Raziaar]

Heh. Never denied it. Just as many morons and assholes on our side as well.

 

[CREMATOR666]

Actually, whatever happened in the US should stay in the US. Instead, what happened in the US got worldwide and dropped crap on people.
No worries.

 

[seinfeldrules]

? If you want, I can go pull up a couple thousand websites based solely on the claims that bush is stupid, too much of an idiot to be president, the devil, evil, looks like a monkey(personal appearance assault), and many other things.

You can find many threads like this on this board. Its amazing none ever get closed...

 

[CptStern]

meh, parody and redicule isnt nearly enough of what he deserves ..his cabinet is responsible for the deaths of thousands

 

[seinfeldrules]

meh, parody and redicule isnt nearly enough of what he deserves ..his cabinet is responsible for the deaths of thousands

So now its his cabinets fault, not his? I just can get a straight answer!

 

[CptStern]

yes, would you rather I had said the US is responsible?

 

[seinfeldrules]

yes, would you rather I had said the US is responsible?

Well, you usually say either

A. Bush
B. USA

now there is apparently the option of

C. Bush's cabinet

 

[CptStern]

annnnnnddd?

who cares ..same shit, different pile

 

[Tr0n]

annnnnnddd?

who cares ..same shit, different pile

I hope you don't mean to say the US as a whole is a piece of shit... :|

 

[CptStern]

how? how did you guys manage to misinterpret everything I say?

 

[Tr0n]

how? how did you guys manage to misinterpret everything I say?

Phrase your sentences better.

yes, would you rather I had said the US is responsible?

Well, you usually say either

A. Bush
B. USA

now there is apparently the option of

C. Bush's cabinet

annnnnnddd?

who cares ..same shit, different pile

Also use the QUOTE option...it helps.

 

[CptStern]

just stop taking me so literally ...how long have I been talking about these issues? how often do I bring abstract ideology to the table? there's usually more depth than what's on the surface for the majority of my posts ..anyways, this is needless scapegoating and is becoming a real annoyance as it blindsides the real issues ...we spend far more time hacking each others posts than actually examining facts

 

[Tr0n]

Well hell I already know the facts.

 

[Icarusintel]

so, what the hell happened to my original topic, guess i can't find any bush supporters who are gonna be there, the protestors at the last inauguration were just plain retarded, too many different agendas and no idea of how to do any of it, i really wonder about the legitamcy of most of the protest groups, half of them last time just sat in a park and smoked grass, and yes, i was there last time bush was inaugurated

 

[the andrew]

Anyone going to the inauguration on the 20th? Should be a blast. Look for me in the parade somewhere in the First Battalion of the VMI marching section. We're gonna look real snazzy in our overcoat with full dyke and arms.

Yea, you'll certainly impress me with your uniform and weapon made specially to kill others. Salute!

I'll be there on the 20th with the other protestors.

Who told you to sit down and shut up? Go there, do what you want to do. I'm just saying the message isn't going to be very effective.

Whether he gets the message or not, doing nothing is worse than trying and failing. The rest of the world should see America's own out on the streets, they need to realize that we're not all as stupid as we may appear.

Many of you people preach about good will and doing the right thing, yet many of you are filled with such hatred against bush that you wish he were assassinated(not many of you on these forums, many liberals).

I'm new to the boards but easy with the L word. For one, you probably don't know what it means today and it's not a label to be ashamed of in the slightest. The picture that FOX news paints as a liberal doesn't give us much credit. Here's a tip: don't take your news media so seriously.

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I don't know why any of you on here pick sides with the Republicans or Democrats. Neither party is looking out for you, so why are you so quick to kiss their asses? I'd rather Kerry have won the election, as he is much more of a progressive thinker than Bush is, but he would be in no way a solution to our problems and at the very least a contributor to them. I know it's nice and comforting to sit back and think to yourself "Hey, GW has got my back", but I think it's much more refreshing if you start being realists and realize he's ****ing you over as much (though more) than the Democrats.

 

[Javert]

So now its his cabinets fault, not his? I just can get a straight answer!

Then think straighter. :thumbs:

 

[Icarusintel]

Yea, you'll certainly impress me with your uniform and weapon made specially to kill others. Salute!

I'll be there on the 20th with the other protestors.

What'll you be wearing? At least try to look nice, wouldn;t wanna overshadow you protestors with our awesome uniforms
edit: and last i checked, the topic was the inauguration, not the president

 

[the andrew]

I don't know what I'll be wearing, I don't dress in uniform. I'm not really concerned about looking good, I'll probably end up tear-gassed and dirty anyway.

I don't mean to come off as such an ass. I understand what you're doing is a job, I'm just extremely turned off to the idea of signing myself away to someone else's control to be used as a weapon.

 

[Icarusintel]

I don't know what I'll be wearing, I don't dress in uniform. I'm not really concerned about looking good, I'll probably end up tear-gassed and dirty anyway.

I don't mean to come off as such an ass. I understand what you're doing is a job, I'm just extremely turned off to the idea of signing myself away to someone else's control to be used as a weapon.

Very well then, no harm done and sorry for my remarks, but as of yet I've signed no contract with the military, though I have seriously considered it and don;t see any problem with it, we all seek to make a difference in different ways, if I can do that by bringing a platoon of soldiers home alive then that's what I'll do
If it's any consolation if i do go into the military i've gotta go into the gas chamber for a spin

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Thats actually kind of odd -- you think people would'nt screen for something as blatant as getting into the Inaugeration simply to turn their backs?

Interesting.

 

[CptStern]

I think turning your back is a great form of protest, passive resistance and all that

 

[K e r b e r o s]

What if everyone ignores you turning your backs?

 

[satch919]

F*** Bush and his Inauguration. Spending 40+million on his parties and festivities. :hmph: Im not going to watch it unless tons of people throw eggs or something at his convoy. He's not my President. :angry:

 

[Raziaar]

F*** Bush and his Inauguration. Spending 40+million on his parties and festivities. :hmph: Im not going to watch it unless tons of people throw eggs or something at his convoy. He's not my President. :angry:

Sure he is. May not be who you picked, but he's your president. Unless of course, you wish to leave the states.

And yes, I know its a figure of speech.

 

[Zeus]

F*** Bush and his Inauguration. Spending 40+million on his parties and festivities. :hmph: Im not going to watch it unless tons of people throw eggs or something at his convoy. He's not my President. :angry:

It sends chills down my spine thinking about how much money is being wasted so he can have a big party (AGAIN even though he already had one inaguration) when the money could be going to much better causes. *sigh* I hate bush.....

 

[satch919]

Sure he is. May not be who you picked, but he's your president. Unless of course, you wish to leave the states.

And yes, I know its a figure of speech.

No, I don't accept him as my President. I never will either. As far as I'm concerned, there's a clown in the Oval Office. I have the right to disagree with his administration and policies.

 

[Raziaar]

It sends chills down my spine thinking about how much money is being wasted so he can have a big party (AGAIN even though he already had one inaguration) when the money could be going to much better causes. *sigh* I hate bush.....

Most people I know, from both sides, agree there shouldn't be another inauguration.

I think bush is a pretty humble guy anyways, not a fancy rich big spender when it comes to pointless things. He's a down to earth president, and I wonder if his cabinet wants him to hold the inaguration rather than he himself. Who knows though.

 

[satch919]

I think bush is a pretty humble guy anyways, not a fancy rich big spender when it comes to pointless things.

You have got to be kidding! Spending on pointless things? How about Iraq for starters? This guy spends like there is no tomorrow. Time for some linkage.

MSNBC.com analyzes the $40 million dollar bash

The cost of the Iraq war

New worries for the economy

More

There you have it.

Edit - Here's another quote.

The case that Bush is a big spender is irrefutable. Federal spending on Bush's watch has sky-rocketed. According to the Heritage Foundation, the years 2000 to 2003 marked the biggest spending spree in the history of the United States, except for WWII. Total spending has gone up nearly 14 percent in Bush's first three years, and discretionary spending has gone up nearly 20 percent.

 

[Absinthe]

I can see why some think Bush comes off as humble. He's folksy. He's a guy you can imagine yourself having a beer with. He's got that Southern flavor.

I, however, think he's just dim and knows **** all how to spend his money properly.

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

LOL I don't get into politics much but this year is going to be extra special in the way that it has that finger nail on the chalk board effect on already whiney liberals.

I Love it!.... I just wish we could put a crown on his head. I think Stern would have a coronary. ROFL!

 

[Absinthe]

LOL I don't get into politics much but this year is going to be extra special in the way that it has that finger nail on the chalk board effect on already whiney liberals.

This year may turn out even better when you already big-headed conservatives blow your own shit in your face.

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

President’s Job Approval And Favorability Ratings Increasing:

President Bush’ Job Approval Rating Up 4 In Most Recent Fox News Poll To 52%. (FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. Jan. 11-12, 2005. N=900 Registered Voters Nationwide. MOE ± 3)

President Bush’s Favorability Ratings Up 4 In Most Recent Fox News Poll To 53%. (FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. Jan. 11-12, 2005. N=900 Registered Voters Nationwide. MOE ± 3)

Americans Recognize Need To Strengthen Social Security:

71% Of Those Polled Say Social Security System Is Either “In A State Of Crisis” Or “Has Major Problems.” (CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Jan. 7-9, 2005. N=1,008 Adults Nationwide. MoE ± 3)

Most Polled Want “Major Changes” In Social Security System “In The Next Year Or Two.” 49% of those polled wanted major changes in the Social Security system in the next year or two, compared to 39% who wanted major changes within the next 10 years. (CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Jan. 7-9, 2005. N=1,008 Adults Nationwide. MoE ± 3)

Economy Continues Upward Trend:

The Congressional Budget Office “Estimated A Surplus Of About $1 Billion In December 2004, A Swing Of More Than $18 Billion From The $17.6 Billion Deficit Recorded In December 2003.” (“Budget Deficit About $114 Billion,” United Press International, 1/7/05)

Prices At The Wholesale Level Fell By 0.7 Percent In December. (Martin Crutsinger, “Wholesale Prices Plunge On Energy Costs,” The Associated Press, 1/14/05)

“This Marked The Largest Monthly Decline In Wholesale Prices Since April 2003.” (Gregory Robb, “Producer Prices Fall 0.7% In December,” CBSMarketWatch.com, 1/14/05)

“The Output Of U.S. Factories, Mines And Utilities Rose A Better-Than-Expected 0.8 Percent In December … The Capacity Utilization Rate Rose To 79.2 Percent In December, The Highest In Four Years … ” (Rex Nutting, “U.S. Industrial Output Up 0.8% In Dec.,” CBSMarketWatch.com, 1/14/05)

 

[Raziaar]

You have got to be kidding! Spending on pointless things? How about Iraq for starters? This guy spends like there is no tomorrow. Time for some linkage.

You may think Iraq was pointless and a trivial matter, but its a very serious thing that required big spending.

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

You may think Iraq was pointless and a trivial matter, but its a very serious thing that required big spending.

Better spent killing terrorist than spent on welfare for druggies.

Besides the druggies can always go to Canada for cheap methodone, an Apt. and a gaurantee that they will never have to work a day of their life.

 

[satch919]

Of course Bush's approval rating is going to be pretty good according to a Fox News Poll. Conservatism and Fox News go hand in hand. But overall, people do favor him only because he's a wartime president fighting for our freedoms! :hmph:

Sure people want some change to Social Security. I think it needs to be reformed as well. But Bush's social security proposals just aren't going to work. Privatizing it isn't the answer. Lets see. Why would you have every citizen set up a separate account? The only people who benefit from that are the people who sell stock and manage portfolios. These people stand to make billions of dollars in fees off this plan, which is the reason why it's being pushed.

Bush claims that by the time 20 year olds retire, the system will be bankrupt. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, Social Security will be able to rely on the trust funds until 2052 and after that will still be able to pay 81 percent of scheduled benefits.

Under Bush's SS plan, If you make 80,000 dollars or less a year, you are paying full fare on every nickel you earn - but people making more, are not taxed beyond the first $80,000. Now, does that sound right to you?



Going into Iraq at the time that we did was wrong. First of all, the reasons that we went turned out to be lies. The WMD inspectors were recalled before Christmas. Secondly, we weren't prepared to handle this type of warfare.

We found no WMDs and have now further destabalized the region even more. Not to mention the 1363 dead Americans. Iraq has now become a breeding ground for terrorists and Islamic radicals.

If Bush and his allies thought that this was such a worthy and noble cause, how come they don't send their children? Why is it that they tell the soldiers that they appreciate their sacrifice but can't find the money to give them the necessary armor and equipment? Why do they cut their combat pay? Why do they continue to overextend the troops' duty? Why does Bush spend 40 freakin million dollars on a party with gold lined plates and the finest champagne when there are people fighting and dying in a war that he started?

Oh and of course we should spend money on killing people rather than improving the public school system, right? Or spend money developing weapons instead of trying to keep hospitals open huh? Why not take that $40 million and send it over to Iraq or put it towards some scholarships for some kids?

He doesn't serve you and your interests, he serves himself. The sooner you understand that, the better.

 

[CptStern]

Better spent killing terrorist than spent on welfare for druggies.

Besides the druggies can always go to Canada for cheap methodone, an Apt. and a gaurantee that they will never have to work a day of their life.

wow you really push the envelope on stupidity ...so tell me ..how many single mothers are on welfare? or do they do crack too?