Israel V Hezbollah?

I'd say the only chance Hizbollah would have is if they choose Demo General and purchased the demolitions upgrade. That along with scud-launchers should do the trick.
 
I'll get my canned peaches and microwave, so I can put the canned peaches in the microwave with some tinfoil, make the mirowave explode, and create a race of super-mutant peaches that will be my slaves and will dig a bomb shelter for me and then will be food for when i'm in the bomb shelter.

Actually, i don't really know where i'm going with this...

-DaMaN
 
Remember: The future Lebanon may be your country.

One day, a neighboring nation will get powerful enough to bully and attack you.
 
The worst thing the UN ever did was recreate the state of Israel.
 
I've been following this in the newspapers while I've been away for the last two weeks.

It's horrfic, Isreal take children prisoner all the time, with no evidence. Hizbullah were trying to get these people released. Isreal have been bombing peoples houses killing 60+ civillians at the last count I saw. They have no right to do this. Our governments should ban all arms deals to Isreal, cut funding and get them the **** out of the middle east and palestine.
 
Solaris, please. I could have written that post for you, it was so predictable. Both sides are wrong, but Hezbollah has bought this upon themselves. Israel is a militaristic nation because it's neighbours regularly try and wipe them out. With that in mind, Hezbollah captured Israeli troops. Why? They're just bringing destruction on innocent people.
 
Kangy said:
Israel is a militaristic nation because it's neighbours regularly try and wipe them out.
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Aside from the 6 day war (which was back in 1967) when have any of Israels direct neighbours attempted to wipe them out?
 
-War of Independence 1948
-Six day war 1967
-Yom Kippur 1973

All involved Egypt and Syria which are direct neighbours.

O and Solaris, kudo's to another hilarious post. lol
 
Kangy said:
Solaris, please. I could have written that post for you, it was so predictable. Both sides are wrong, but Hezbollah has bought this upon themselves. Israel is a militaristic nation because it's neighbours regularly try and wipe them out. With that in mind, Hezbollah captured Israeli troops. Why? They're just bringing destruction on innocent people.
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Yes, they did capture 2 Isreali troops, but before that Isreal had 100's of women and children imprisoned without trial. I don't agree with Hizbullah on alot of things, but they want these people liberated and hell I do too, obviously they're not powerful enough to do that, I wonder what they hoped to achieve.

Isreals responce however is morally undefendable, they have brought lebanon to it's knees, destroying major civillian infrastructure like they did in Gaza. They are punishing the civillian masses for the acts of some terrorists, imo they're guilty of crimes against humanity.
 
Why? The civilian masses shouldn't support the terrorists then. Simple as. And hell, if Hezbollah cared for the people they claim to be fighting for they'd give up the troops right now.
 
Kangy said:
Why? The civilian masses shouldn't support the terrorists then. Simple as. And hell, if Hezbollah cared for the people they claim to be fighting for they'd give up the troops right now.
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They don't, and even the civillians who hate Hezbollah still get their bridges and powerplants bombed, maybe even their houses.
 
Should Israel simply endure kidnappings and constant rocket barrages?
Just sit back and say "hey dont do that"?

Its "funny" actually, i'm watching the news atm, and they're showing lebanese homes which are also used as katyusha rocket launch platforms => if israel targets that they hit civies...
Kudo's to the Hizbollah -> Kind of like a checkmate...
 
Solaris said:
They don't, and even the civillians who hate Hezbollah still get their bridges and powerplants bombed, maybe even their houses.
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Maybe they shouldn't vote for a government that doesn't try to destroy Hezbollah itself then, or at least aid Israel in wiping them out.
 
Ome_Vince said:
Should Israel simply endure kidnappings and constant rocket barrages?
Just sit back and say "hey dont do that"?
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Maybe they should withdraw from palestine into their own country and stop making more enemys.
 
Solaris said:
Maybe they should withdraw from palestine into their own country and stop making more enemys.
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Wasnt the reason for the kidnapping and firing of rockets, the 9k palestinian prisoners.. :)
And please explain the "withdraw from palestine" => according to the Arabs entire Israel is suppost to be Palestine... :angel:
Are you refering to the ocean? :)

Also, which country would submit to the demands of kidnappers? :rolling:
Once you do that, its open season.
 
Ome_Vince said:
Also, which country would submit to the demands of kidnappers? :rolling:
Once you do that, its open season.
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So you go and destory a whole country and thier airport and tv stations, or kill thier civils ?

And what with this " We will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years " its just ignorant.
 
DigiQ8 said:
So you go and destory a whole country and thier airport and tv stations, or kill thier civils ?

And what with this " We will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years " its just ignorant.
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-The logic is paralizing the country so the pressure is high and the kidnappers give up the soldiers (though i think in this case Israel's response is way out of proportion and does more harm than good).

-Its not ignorant, its powertalk (stupid): a message to countries like Syria and Iran to stop acting up as they're supplying Hizbollah and giving them arms, and to Lebannon to stop harbouring and supporting terrorist organisations.

Dont get me wrong i dont support this Israeli action, and like i said its way out of proportion and mostly hurts civilians only strengthening Hizbollah's support which was on the downfall (as they were ordered to be disarmed); but, i can understand Israel's frustration and will to protect its people from terrorism.
 
Ome_Vince said:
-The logic is paralizing the country so the pressure is high and the kidnappers give up the soldiers (though i think in this case Israel's response is way out of proportion and does more harm than good).
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Its not justifyable. If your freind steals my sweets it's not okay for me to keep hitting you untill he gives them back. Isreal are taking the entire country of lebanon hostage for the release of the prisoners.
 
Solaris said:
Its not justifyable. If your freind steals my sweets it's not okay for me to keep hitting you untill he gives them back. Isreal are taking the entire country of lebanon hostage for the release of the prisoners.
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Bad example; you cant compare kidnapping people with stealing sweets... :rolleyes:

Any country would do the same thing if hostile neighbours kidnap people from within your country, and fire daily rocket attacks.

I think Israel's reaction is out of proportion, but they certainly have the right to protect their people and punish Lebannon for its actions.
Lebannon should take responsibility for this outlawed terrorist organisation which they are harbouring.
When we bombed Germany during the war, we didnt make excuses "oe, we can bomb and attack Nazi's but we must leave Germany alone".
There's no line you can draw there, its all to mixed. Especially Hizbollah, who loves to mix with the Civilian population.
Hell the headquarters was in an appartment complex in the middle of freekin Beirut!!!

How is Israel suppost to defend itself from Hizbollah, when Hizbollah totally blends with the Lebanese people..... :rolleyes:
 
Ome_Vince said:
Bad example; you cant compare kidnapping people with stealing sweets... :rolleyes:

Any country would do the same thing if hostile neighbours kidnap people from within your country, and fire daily rocket attacks.

I think Israel's reaction is out of proportion, but they certainly have the right to protect their people and punish Lebannon for its actions.
Lebannon should take responsibility for this outlawed terrorist organisation which they are harbouring.
When we bombed Germany during the war, we didnt make excuses "oe, we can bomb and attack Nazi's but we must leave Germany alone".
There's no line you can draw there, its all to mixed. Especially Hizbollah, who loves to mix with the Civilian population.
Hell the headquarters was in an appartment complex in the middle of freekin Beirut!!!

How is Israel suppost to defend itself from Hizbollah, when Hizbollah totally blends with the Lebanese people..... :rolleyes:
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So why is it wrong for terrorists to attack america by flying a plane into the twin towers, but it's okay for Isreal to drop bombs on civillians?
 
Solaris said:
So why is it wrong for terrorists to attack america by flying a plane into the twin towers, but it's okay for Isreal to drop bombs on civillians?
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heh, now how did the US get pulled into this :angel:

Its also a terrible comparisson but here you go:

-In 9/11 hijackers deliberatly targetted as many civilians as possible to cause terror.

-Israel is trying to target a terrorist organisation who hides amongst civilians. The result is civilians get hit.

The first 1 is targetting civies on purpose, the other is collateral damage in which Hizbollah is mostly responsible.
Not that collateral damage is "good" or "acceptable" but when Hizbollah hides amongst civilians and according to the news yesterday has been reported using children as human shields, launches rockets from residential areas, has its HQ in an appartment complex in the middle of the city, the responsibility imo lies mostly with Hizbollah who (what a surprise..) also happened to start this.

Now lets not drag the pointless USA-Iraq-9/11 discussion into here, it has nothing to do with the current MidEast Crisis....
 
Perhaps Hitler did have the right idea....

*runs away, dodging stones*

j/k
 
hezbollah_hamas_nazi_salute.jpg


hehe, you should then join these guys :)
 
from that picture :upstare: it seems that they are copycating the old Nazi German way of saluting, lol idiots.
 
The Israeli's are thick.

You can not disarm a group of people who mingle with the local population by dropping bombs. You can not bomb civilian infrastructure and expect to win the hearts and minds of the people.

Before Israel attacked Lebanon the local populas was up in arms over Hezbollah killing and kidnapping Israeli soldiers. But this changed when Israel decided to bully civilians into submission. Now the Lebanonize see Hezbollah as a bunch of freedom fighters rather than a bunch of crazy's.

It's ironic that Lebanon was one of the safest destinations for westeners in the middle east.
 
They should get Ehud Olmert and Hassan Nasrallah in a room together to make love, not war.
 
Solaris said:
Its not justifyable. If your freind steals my sweets it's not okay for me to keep hitting you untill he gives them back. Isreal are taking the entire country of lebanon hostage for the release of the prisoners.
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C'mon, Solaris. I'm honestly starting to believe that you feel this conflict is the result of the kidnapping of two soldiers. Hizbollah is a terrorist organization that is being allowed by Lebanon to control a portion of it's territory....it's unacceptable. Lebanon is under attack because of the need to cripple Hizbollah....that's it.

Add Hamas to the mix and it was only a matter of time before some event caused them to snap. Isreal is a country surrounded by other countries/organizations that hate it and want it gone.
 
You really think the lebanese security forces want to kick off a civil war when they have just got over the last one?
 
Ome_Vince said:
heh, now how did the US get pulled into this :angel:

Its also a terrible comparisson but here you go:

-In 9/11 hijackers deliberatly targetted as many civilians as possible to cause terror.

-Israel is trying to target a terrorist organisation who hides amongst civilians. The result is civilians get hit.

The first 1 is targetting civies on purpose, the other is collateral damage in which Hizbollah is mostly responsible.
Not that collateral damage is "good" or "acceptable" but when Hizbollah hides amongst civilians and according to the news yesterday has been reported using children as human shields, launches rockets from residential areas, has its HQ in an appartment complex in the middle of the city, the responsibility imo lies mostly with Hizbollah who (what a surprise..) also happened to start this.

Now lets not drag the pointless USA-Iraq-9/11 discussion into here, it has nothing to do with the current MidEast Crisis....
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:upstare: then why is israel targeting roads, bridges, the airport, communications infrastructure etc? Civilians are dying by the scores, to ignore it by saying it's a "collatoral damage" is whitewashing the fact that scores of civilains are dying who have nothing to do with hezbollah
 
I think its because Israel doesn't really know where they are, so they're just bombing everything for good measure.
 
Israel is bombings bridges and roads to prevent the moving of the kidnapped soldiers. Remember what happened to Ron Arad? The only thing they can do besides looking for him is preventing the soldiers from going "MIA" forever.
 
bombing civilians and destroying the infrastructure will most assuredly put those kidnapped soldiers in danger of retaliation ..they wont make it out alive
 
my questiong is who started this?

it was hamas?
 
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