medicinal mushrooms

[thefiznut]

Did we already go over this earlier in the thread?
Toxic mushrooms really are not that common,
but they are around..

I repeat, they are not that common..
I learn this from mycologists, you know, people who actually study fungi
not a few skeptics on HL2.net.

It is because the ingestion of a mycotoxin can be significantly harmful that the threat is taken very seriously, and it should be. When it does occur, the results are sometimes (yes, sometimes) deadly, and more often than not just extremely painful. I'm not denying that anyone take mushroom poisoning to be a joke. But to freak out about it being a death-wish to go mushroom hunting is ridiculous and any mycophile or mycologist would agree.

 

[15357]

I'm still trying to find mushroom supplements for lowering BP. I mean, do you have any brand names? Big ones, that prolly export to Korea.

 

[Eejit]

But to freak out about it being a death-wish to go mushroom hunting is ridiculous and any mycophile or mycologist would agree.

Nobody said it was dangerous for experts to mushroom-hunt, just for other people. Which you constantly brush aside with "it can be dangerous but an insignificant chance" etc.

 

[Raziaar]

I'm still trying to find mushroom supplements for lowering BP. I mean, do you have any brand names? Big ones, that prolly export to Korea.

I really don't understand this age of supplements. An effective, fool proof way of lowering blood pressure is by eating properly.

I dunno... I'm just not a big fan of pills or supplements. I watch people, and family sometimes down 15-20 different types of pills in a day, some of them being absolutely ridiculous bullshit stuff like Colon Cleansers, and it just boggles my mind.


If I have a headache, I'll probably take some aspirin, sure... and if I have a condition that requires something to treat or cure it, I'll take that too... but other than that, I stay off the pills, I stay off the supplements. I can have much longer lasting and better effects if I just put forth the effort to eat healthier. Headaches too... I get headaches sometimes because of salt intake.. I could take aspirin every time, or I could reduce my sodium intake a bit.

 

[thefiznut]

Nobody said it was dangerous for experts to mushroom-hunt, just for other people. Which you constantly brush aside with "it can be dangerous but an insignificant chance" etc.

You're really just picking at straws here now. Everything I wrote above is true, that even an amateur can learn to identify mushrooms an successfully find edibles without poisoning themselves. That's the point i have reiterated in every post, and yet you still make the same criticism: that I am not taking mushroom poisoning seriously.
If you can't grasp this concept, that toxic mushroom populations are grossly exaggerated and that toxic mushrooms are not littering every hillside and valley waiting for a non-expert to pick them and get sick, then you might as well give up in this thread.

And well yeah, it CAN be dangerous but there is not a significant chance of you getting poisoned by picking the nearest mushroom you see. The chances are slim, small, tiny, etc. But once again for what seems like the fifteenth time: I AM NOT RECOMMENDING YOU ACTUALLY TRY IT.
So stop dissembling my posts semantically and rephrasing them in a small sentence that isn't even what I am saying at all.

Or just get out of this thread, you have very little knowledge of fungi anyways so starting debates here, you come across more like a troll than a contributor.

 

[thefiznut]

I really don't understand this age of supplements. An effective, fool proof way of lowering blood pressure is by eating properly.

I dunno... I'm just not a big fan of pills or supplements. I watch people, and family sometimes down 15-20 different types of pills in a day, some of them being absolutely ridiculous bullshit stuff like Colon Cleansers, and it just boggles my mind.


If I have a headache, I'll probably take some aspirin, sure... and if I have a condition that requires something to treat or cure it, I'll take that too... but other than that, I stay off the pills, I stay off the supplements. I can have much longer lasting and better effects if I just put forth the effort to eat healthier. Headaches too... I get headaches sometimes because of salt intake.. I could take aspirin every time, or I could reduce my sodium intake a bit.

The supplement industry is chock full of hearsay and lies, but then in some ways there are real gems out there. While some random herbal supplement may do jack all to help your cause, others are just racking up narrow studies that in numbers at the very least confirm they are capable. I strongly believe in the power of medicinal mushroom mycelium to prevent illness and modulate the immune system. They are not a joke supplement and the same mycelium and mushrooms have been eating for long before anyone attempted capsuling them. When study after study shows significant change in the immunity markers being measured, multiple mycelial compounds going to clinical trials, nations declaring mushroom supplements as approved therapies and said therapies being put to the test in hospitals in approved therapies, and lastly a historical record of consumption that goes back thousands of years in many global cultures: the evidence is compelling enough that it isn't really another shot-in-the-dark supplement that your money would be better spent on nutritional food.

Your point about food is absolutely correct though, and I for one sit on your side of the fence 100% when it comes to proper diet and your health. Many vitamins, minerals, and herbs people supplement do absolute jack shit for them because their daily food intake consists of saturated fat, trans fats, hydrogenated oils, simple carbohydrates, insulin spiking sugar snacks, alcohol, and foods stripped of their nutritional value (enriched, ugh). There's not a prescribed medication on the planet that could repair a body being damaged by this kind of diet. Thankfully as of 2010 the research is adding up finally that a vast majority of degenerative disease is caused exclusively by poor non-nutritional diet - people are literally starving themselves on fuel that does not burn and now heart disease et al is getting out of control. Even further, research is pointing toward the idea that you body won't even attempt to use otherwise bioavailable vitamins, minerals, amino acids, etc simply because poor diet chokes the life out of the body's ability to utilize essential substances we can't create on our own. What a double whammy that is! This also applies to mental disorders.. Just try it, if you're feeling in a bad mood often get on a workout routine and eat a clean diet without beating around the bush for a while.. Watch your mind correct itself pretty quickly, you might be suprised how much better your head feels after treating yourself to proper nutrition. Don't bother if you're going to eat veggies/fruit all day, then pop pizza and chips down your throat.
Even people with severe mental disorders i.e. clinical depression and panic disorder benefit greatly from rock-solid dietary choices, despite their homeostatic lean toward chemical imbalance. Glucose powers the brain, don't starve your brain of it eating burgers, fries, and cookies and maybe your brain won't cease to function the way it was intended.

Brings a whole new light to the saying, "You are what you eat".

 

[thefiznut]

I'm still trying to find mushroom supplements for lowering BP. I mean, do you have any brand names? Big ones, that prolly export to Korea.

NOW Foods is a large company, they produce solid products.
Try their Immune Renew blend perhaps, or the Reishi/Shiitake blend they make.

Mushroom Science are good.
I buy Fungi Perfecti products, but as for being available in NK, I am not sure if their products go that far out.

Any blend you can find that has Reishi, Maitake, Cordyceps sinensis, Shiitake, and Hiratake mushrooms all in one will be best. There's quite a few mushroom products containing the full spectrum of mushroom mycelia, just look at what you can find and check the ingredients. If you have any questions concering the quality of what you can find and is available to you, send me a PM and i'll check up to make sure the manufacturer is reputable.

 

[15357]

I really don't understand this age of supplements. An effective, fool proof way of lowering blood pressure is by eating properly.

I dunno... I'm just not a big fan of pills or supplements. I watch people, and family sometimes down 15-20 different types of pills in a day, some of them being absolutely ridiculous bullshit stuff like Colon Cleansers, and it just boggles my mind.


If I have a headache, I'll probably take some aspirin, sure... and if I have a condition that requires something to treat or cure it, I'll take that too... but other than that, I stay off the pills, I stay off the supplements. I can have much longer lasting and better effects if I just put forth the effort to eat healthier. Headaches too... I get headaches sometimes because of salt intake.. I could take aspirin every time, or I could reduce my sodium intake a bit.

The thing is, I eat healthily enough, but my BP simply doesn't go down enough. My doctor thinks I'm fine (but thinks that I might want to start taking beta-blockers later on), but I'm afraid that the Army doctors might disagree.

And I don't want to take beta-blockers, I want a more "natural" solution that doesn't turn up in blood tests.

I never saw any use for supplments too, but then I had pre-hypertension.