No T & A at E3 2006

[Glirk Dient]

Hmm..yes no sexually explicit content is going a bit overboard...but IMO I won't miss it as I don't play or enjoy those types of games.

 

[Uriel]

I dont care if you think I'm annoying, ill post my opinion and share my views. I really find your view as nudity being natural primitive. Giving into your urges I think is destructive. Honestly, BB's are one thing, but im hitting on a bigger subject. I think looking at girls just because they're beautiful is degrading to women. Dont believe me? GO ASK ONE. As for pornography, it is something clearly destructive, go reseach it. I'm not saying there is nudity/porn at E3, but the fact is the same, you're getting your jollies off by the way they look. Am I saying we should never look at women? HECK NO, but I am saying you shouldnt view all women like that. I think being physically attracted to your girlfriend is fine, or your wife/fiancee, whatever. But as for viewing anonymous women just because you get off on it, i think you're a perv.

YES, MY VIEW IS RIGHT WINGED! I dont care! Its my opinion! Its also the opinion of many others. Yah! I'm American too! I know many of you think Americans are stupid. My country is FULL of people like me, WHO CARES? I have the freedom to share my beliefs.

 

[Yuri]

"Destroy all humans! EXTERMINATE!"

DEATH TO THE HUMANS!!

 

[ComradeBadger]

Actually, that is much more of an important issue than the bizarely-clad females. I wonder why they would do this, and what games this will end up affecting... and if Whacko Jacko has something to do with their decision.

Yes. I'd say that's rather more important than the booth babes.

I don't think it's adult content, just nudity. Heh.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Don't mind me Uriel. I just find your avatar immensely amusing when coupled with your ranting posts.

Hmm..yes no sexually explicit content is going a bit overboard...but IMO I won't miss it as I don't play or enjoy those types of games.

But it's not just 'those type of games' Glirk. It's not just Leisure Suit Larry and Private Dancer (which suck anyway so who gives a shit). It's also games which include sexual content as simply a small part of their remit or as a single sequence and not as the whole point of the whole game. It's Fahrenheit (mature consensual sex!) and GTA (whores and girlfriends with optional coffee!) and It's like banning Terminator because it has a sex scene in it. EDIT: Even if it's only nudity, that's still stupid.

But as for viewing anonymous women just because you get off on it, i think you're a perv.
YES, MY VIEW IS RIGHT WINGED! I dont care! Its my opinion! Its also the opinion of many others. Yah! I'm American too! I know many of you think Americans are stupid. My country is FULL of people like me, WHO CARES? I have the freedom to share my beliefs.

Erm. OK. So...if you're attracted to women who you aren't already romantically engaged with you're a pervert, and it's sick and wrong? So how do you go about gettng romantically engaged with anyone in the first place? Do you really think women don't view men in the same way sometimes? But whatever, it's your opinion. Have a ball with it.

 

[Glirk Dient]

But it's not just 'those type of games' Glirk. It's not just Leisure Suit Larry and Private Dancer (which suck anyway so who gives a shit). It's also games which include sexual content as simply a small part of their remit or as a single sequence and not as the whole point of the whole game. It's Fahrenheit (mature consensual sex!) and GTA (whores and girlfriends with optional coffee!) and It's like banning Terminator because it has a sex scene in it. EDIT: Even if it's only nudity, that's still stupid.

I think they are getting at that you can't show that type of stuff at e3. So the devs can show the rest of the game and not the adult themed content.

 

[Sulkdodds]

....you make a good point.

....

Pfft! Censorship sucks! It's still bad! Rant!

 

[Yuri]

I think they are getting at that you can't show that type of stuff at e3. So the devs can show the rest of the game and not the adult themed content.

OMG YOUR WRITE! CALL OFF THE ROBOT INVASION!!!

Oh noes its TOO LATE!!!! DEATH!

 

[ComradeBadger]

I think they are getting at that you can't show that type of stuff at e3. So the devs can show the rest of the game and not the adult themed content.

So essentially sex ceases to be a selling point.

Oh, and Uriel, just wondering, does sleeping with someone you don't love count as immoral? Or because you think they're hot and you're horny and you end up shagging make both of you worse people?

Personally I think it's better I **** around now, and have fun now, than cheat on my wife in the future.

 

[Yuri]

NO ONE CAN SPEAK BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD OR SLAVES OF OUR ROBOT MASTERS!!!!

wtf caps

 

[CptStern]

Personally I think it's better I **** around now, and have fun now, than cheat on my wife in the future.

yes exactly ..going on 10 years affair-free ..got it out of my system when I was young(er)

I dont care if you think I'm annoying, ill post my opinion and share my views. I really find your view as nudity being natural primitive. Giving into your urges I think is destructive.

pure opinion because you dont experience to back you up ..oh and NOT giving into urges IS destructive ..you might as well cease breathing because they're both biological functions

Honestly, BB's are one thing, but im hitting on a bigger subject. I think looking at girls just because they're beautiful is degrading to women. Dont believe me? GO ASK ONE.

so admiring someone for their intelligence is degrading? funny how you warp god's message of "all thinggs are beautiful" ..looking at a woman and seeing her as a purely sexual object is degrading, admiring someone for their beauty is not

As for pornography, it is something clearly destructive, go reseach it.

you want to back up your statement? ANYTHING to the point of obsessionis destructive ..porn is no more or less destructive than gaming is

I'm not saying there is nudity/porn at E3, but the fact is the same, you're getting your jollies off by the way they look.

who is getting their jollies off? certainly not the majority of game developers that are there because theat's not why they're there ...some people know better than to be turned on by someone who doesnt reciprocate the feeling

Am I saying we should never look at women? HECK NO, but I am saying you shouldnt view all women like that. I think being physically attracted to your girlfriend is fine, or your wife/fiancee, whatever. But as for viewing anonymous women just because you get off on it, i think you're a perv.

omg you cant be serious ..so before you started dating your girlfriend you were a pervert for finding her attractive? that's just silly

YES, MY VIEW IS RIGHT WINGED! I dont care! Its my opinion! Its also the opinion of many others.

very very small minority ..these are also the same people who burned Beatles records because Lennon said they were bigger than jesus, or that say gaming is eveil because it trains children to kill ...fundamentalist pov's are in the minority

 

[Yuri]

yes exactly ..going on 10 years affair-free ..got it out of my system when I was 2 years young(er)

Fixed.

 

[CptStern]

dont let the wife hear you say that ...I may have to cut you

 

[Dalamari]

About ****ing time, now I won't have to read 6000000 articles about the "booth babes"

 

[Yuri]

dont let the wife hear you say that ...I may have to cut you

O I hath been slain.

 

[<RJMC>]

one thing that I was wondering is those girls like to do that?

for example I wacthed a pics of some guys in the e3 taking pics whit the girls and the girls was smiling but I was wondering if the girl was thinking "oh no why I hav to pose whit these nerds"

 

[Narcolepsy]

The key here is moderation, of course. You don't want to completely constrain your natural urges, but you don't want to let them run absolutely wild either. People like Uriel need to realize that guys are naturally attracted to women for a reason - our species needs to reproduce. Without reproduction, we all die, which is why stereotypically, at least, sex is at the front of every guy's mind. The trick with humans, though, is that we're intelligent to the point where we can supress our natural urges and strive for something more - the advancement in quality, not just quantity, of our species.

And everyone is bent a different way, and again, this is for a reason. Some people are more inclined to go about perpetuating the species (Stern), and some are more inclined to aim for a "higher" cause (Uriel). The term "higher" is misleading, because it's not really higher at all, just different.

Learn to understand why people work the way they do, and don't haphazardly apply labels like "perv" or "real man" without calling into question your own views on how the world works.

Right... but this thread was about E3.

Sure it may be nice to have, don't get my wrong I'm not without my hormones, but look at the image it projects for gamers... Hormone crazed teens...

I feel the same way about the issue. I want the gaming industry to have a little class. Gaming doesn't have to be another stereotypically hormone drenched "guy thing." It can be an artform, just like books or movies. But if we want it to be seen like that, we have to consciously clean up our image. And that's why putting a leash on booth babes is a step in the right direction.

looking at a woman and seeing her as a purely sexual object is degrading, admiring someone for their beauty is not

E3 booth babes are sex objects. That's what they're there for.

And of course, this is how I feel. Everyone sees the world in different ways, so even though I'm just beaming at my utter prophetic wisdom as I write this rant, I realize that everyone won't see it the same way.

And that's ok.

 

[Sulkdodds]

And that's why putting a leash on booth babes is a step in the right direction.

Kinky. :naughty:

 

[CptStern]

I think the booth babe is just a by product ..the real story here is that E3 is unfairly targeting developers who may content that is deemed adult ..which by the new rules is forbidden ..if say Leisure Suit larry were to be shown it couldnt show women in bikini bottoms:

"Material, including live models, conduct that is sexually explicit and/or sexually provocative, including but not limited to nudity, partial nudity and bathing suit bottoms, are prohibited on the Show floor, all common areas, and at any access points to the Show. ESA, in its sole discretion, will determine whether material is acceptable."

 

[ríomhaire]

Good on the booth babes. But maybe there could be a section for adult games.

 

[CptStern]

prohibited under the new rules

 

[ríomhaire]

prohibited under the new rules

That's what I mean. Maybe prohibited on the main floor but a special area for them guarded by bouncers.

 

[CptStern]

"prohibited on the Show floor, all common areas, and at any access points to the Show"

unless it's outside on the lawn somewhere it's not getting in

 

[Uriel]

pure opinion because you dont experience to back you up ..oh and NOT giving into urges IS destructive ..you might as well cease breathing because they're both biological functions

What about Murder and Rape?

so admiring someone for their intelligence is degrading? funny how you warp god's message of "all thinggs are beautiful" ..looking at a woman and seeing her as a purely sexual object is degrading, admiring someone for their beauty is not

Okay, where the hell do I say its degrading to admire someone for their intelligence? If anything I'm saying people focus on looks rather than character. Dont put words into my mouth. Putting a girl into a bikini to look at I believe is degrading. Thats what a Booth Babe is. They are not there to have an intelligent conversation with you.

you want to back up your statement? ANYTHING to the point of obsessionis destructive ..porn is no more or less destructive than gaming is

Heres one link. Id be glad if someone could post more, with my sister in the room and me preparing to serve an LDS mission, its not the greatest idea for me to include the word pornography in a google search engine.

who is getting their jollies off? certainly not the majority of game developers that are there because theat's not why they're there ...some people know better than to be turned on by someone who doesnt reciprocate the feeling

The people who are bitching.

omg you cant be serious ..so before you started dating your girlfriend you were a pervert for finding her attractive? that's just silly

Okay bud, lets use some common sense. Yah I thought she was attractive before hand, but I wasnt looking at her body. I wasnt wishing she was in a bikini. I didnt focus on her body nor act on my impulses because I'm saving that for the person whom I will marry. Even if it is her, Ill wait for marriage because sex is something sacred to me. Lust has a lot to deal with this.

very very small minority ..these are also the same people who burned Beatles records because Lennon said they were bigger than jesus, or that say gaming is eveil because it trains children to kill ...fundamentalist pov's are in the minority

What an asinine statement. First off, there are over 10 million Mormons worldwide. Membership is growing extremely fast. Easily one of the fastest growing religions. 12 Million may not be a large amount compared to 6 billion, but it is growing extremely fast. Second, Christians world wide period. I'm pretty sure most Christians would agree with me about Removing Booth Babes, but we both know nearly all Muslims would agree with me, although I do not like to include them because many of them take it to the extreme.

And just like you said The Majority of the Game Developers also agree with me :upstare:

Frankly Stern what pisses me off about you is that for some reason, you think you hold some knowledge that makes you smarter than all those with a different opinion. No I am not the smartest individual, but there are many others a heck of a lot smarter than you that would share my opinion. I am not some religious Zealot who defends my religion because i've been "brainwashed". I am someone who questions actions, ideals and thoughts, even of those of my own religion. I am not a Moron.

One more question, ask your wife about pornography. Do you know her view?

If you call 'em "bajungums", chances are you have have to no reason to worry about women shaking their breasts at you.

Dont make assumptions that I am a social retard because I actively post on forums.

 

[OvA]

BARGARG!

I just typed a nice, concise reply that made several good points and backed them up with given facts.
Then I pressed submit without logging in.

Anyways, good job Uriel keeping your asscheeks firmly closed while stern tries desperately to insert the enema of liberalism into you.

 

[CptStern]

BARGARG!

I just typed a nice, concise reply that made several good points and backed them up with given facts.
Then I pressed submit without logging in.

Anyways, good job Uriel keeping your asscheeks firmly closed while stern tries desperately to insert the enema of liberalism into you.

looks like you can use some too ...bend over, I promise to apply the ky jelly liberaly to prevent chaffing. Judging by your past comments I'll have to use the entire jar

hold still

/me snaps on rubber gloves

 

[Useful Dave]

I just say keep 'em gone, If you want to see games go to E3, not to ogle at Females...

 

[jondy]

Your name says Useful Dave, but your sig is misleading! You aren't useful at all! D:

 

[Uriel]

I'm still waiting for your wife's perspective on pornography, Stern.

 

[OvA]

looks like you can use some too ...bend over, I promise to apply the ky jelly liberaly to prevent chaffing. Judging by your past comments I'll have to use the entire jar

hold still

/me snaps on rubber gloves

How do you know those comments weren't just political satire?

 

[CptStern]

really? when did you ask me? ..she's no prude and has no problem with it as long as it doesnt objectify the person .. if that's what your looking for but it's really none of your business as I dont discuss my family life. Ask me anything you want but I'm not speaking for other people

How do you know those comments weren't just political satire?

must everything be about politics?

 

[Uriel]

Dont mind you there. I dont even like talking about my GF. I wondered if you knew.

 

[Solaris]

I'm still not sure, the leftist movement I'm part of would applaud this move, and say booth babes are wrong, I've never really questioned it.

It does sort of exclude a female audience though, and these women are so much more than just good looking, its sort of an insult, but then again everyones having fun.

But what if they got males in swimsuits, would that put you off at all?

 

[Greatgat]

I'm still not sure, the leftist movement I'm part of would applaud this move, and say booth babes are wrong, I've never really questioned it.

It does sort of exclude a female audience though, and these women are so much more than just good looking, its sort of an insult, but then again everyones having fun.

But what if they got males in swimsuits, would that put you off at all?

If they have this at the Lucasarts Star Wars: Empire at War booth, I'm going to burn down the place. So possibly.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Objectification of women in order to sell a product = never good in my opinion.

Good riddance.

If you want to see immodest women:
www.google.com/

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

LOL I bet KFC (Not the store but the forum user named KFC) at Genmay and LANManiac also caused this.

Remember when he took the upskirt pictures when he was in the wheelchair? Hahaha

 

[Reaktor4]

who cares. they were all minging cheap slappers anyway.

 

[satch919]

We have some real prudes here.

The girls aren't groping you nor are they saying, "hey sexy, bend me over this console and give it to me rough!!!!" A lot of these girls like the attention and I'm sure the game companies pay pretty well. If the girl gamers wanted to have men in speedos, fine. It's just harmless fun. It's not like the guys there are walking around with hard-ons all the time. The girls just make the experience better.

Would you guys also support a ban on female beach volleyball or women's tennis because they wear bikini bottoms or short skirts?

Lighten up people.

 

[Vegeta897]

Satch, I do believe you are preaching to noone.

 

[satch919]

Satch, I do believe you are preaching to noone.

Veg, I do believe you're being a dick. :thumbs: