Questions Thread

[VirusType2]

Those of you still wondering how luck works in the game...

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Attributes#Luck

Interesting:

Luck is potentially a good choice as one of the two major attributes of a custom-designed class.

That's exactly what dawned on me when creating my character, and that's what I was trying to tell you guys. Because of this:

Whilst every other attribute can be maximised quite easily with 10 or so levels of +5 attribute increases, it takes up-to 50 levels (40 with The Thief birthsign) of raises to maximise luck. See Leveling +5/+5/+5 vs +5/+5/+1 for more on how to do this.

so thats why I picked the thief birthsign, and picked luck as one of my 2 favored attributes. So I can get luck to 100 - 15 levels sooner.


Good post Sinkoman

 

[Cormeh]

Gweden Farm Quest - SPOILERS

OK, so I've picked up on my original character recently and have been trying to clear up any odd quests I have noted during my travels. The one I finished last night relates to the gang of women robbing married men in Anvil.

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After killing the gang in Gweden farm, I searched their bodies and found keys to the basement. Being the good guy I am I never entered the basement whilst the investigating guards were present.

What I did was wait a few days and returned, but the front door is locked. Is there any way to get back into the farm after finishing the quest?

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[CookieCuttah]

You cannot lockpick it either?

 

[Cormeh]

Nope. It's key specific. It's open at a certain time during the quest, and I assumed it'd be open after I'd cleared it.

So basically I seem to have a key which can't be used.

 

[CookieCuttah]

Don't worry, the only valuable item there is the book "Lusty Argonian Maid" but it's pretty common, get it from a store! = ]

 

[Cormeh]

That's in the basement yes? I'm just hoping I won't miss out on any good loot or anything worth selling.

 

[sinkoman]

Try installing the beta patch.

I believe it's supposed to fix this.

QUESTION:

Anybody know if there's a way to make blood decals stick to your body in non chameleon mode? I've noticed, ever since I made that 30% Chameleon amulet, that occasionally, when in a fight with guardsmen, my normally invisible arm will start getting blood decals on them. It's REALLY cool, and I was wondering if there was any way to implement it when I DON'T have chameleon activated.

'Nother Q:

Is it possible to have a weapon you enchant have the enchantment more powerful than the spell you know?

Like, say you buy a +6 fire damage spell. Is it possible to use that spell to enchant a sword with +25 fire damage? Or is it stuck below +6?

 

[Kyorisu]

You just need to know the base spell to enchant to the max enchantable level. As far as I know anyway.

Attributes max out to +10 (on any item, higher quality clothes should take more enchantments dammit) whilst weapon damage I have no clue.

 

[sinkoman]

You just need to know the base spell to enchant to the max enchantable level. As far as I know anyway.

Attributes max out to +10 (on any item, higher quality clothes should take more enchantments dammit) whilst weapon damage I have no clue.

Awesome

I'm gonna have to start purchasing some really low beginner type spells, so I can make some uber enchanted items.

 

[French Ninja]

***Spoiler***





South of the hated city of Hackdirt, there is a building called Weatherleah. It's totally trashed and there's bones all over the place. Is there a quest related to this?





***end spoiler***

 

[Feath]

***Spoiler***





South of the hated city of Hackdirt, there is a building called Weatherleah. It's totally trashed and there's bones all over the place. Is there a quest related to this?





***end spoiler***

Yes, there is. Ask around in Chorrol. There's a line of quests that have Weatherleah involved at one point.

 

[CookieCuttah]

Weatherleah is a long ass quest, but it has an awesome reward at the end, the shield is simply astounding.

As for the married men quest, I stumbled upon the building right after you mentioned it, I tried to look for an alternative way in, it seems that you can only go in once.

 

[sinkoman]

Do Jewels and Skins serve any purpose other than to be sold?

 

[Jintor]

N/A. Maybe modding purposes. Enchanting for jewels, unless you mean stones by themselves.

 

[CookieCuttah]

You either put them on display or sell them

 

[sinkoman]

SPOILER-ISH

You know how you get that pig, Porkchop, in your championship match in the Arena?

Is there any benefit to keeping Porkchop alive? He died for me, and I feel sad now

 

[Kyorisu]

The pig doesn't matter.

 

[sinkoman]

The pig doesn't matter.

D:

Well, do you know if you can still see him in the pig pen after he survives?

Cause I remember one of the awesome parts of the Bloodworks was watching that pig walk around his cage, and throwing potions and beef and things at him.

Now, since i'm Grand Champion, all of the Bloodworks either hates me or kisses my ass.

Miss the pig.

 

[Jintor]

If anybody knows what Riverside is for in Cheydinhal, i'd love to know. Ever since i... did the quest with teh Count's son, he and his friend have been standing outside. If i 'unlock' (console) the door, they go in, and i'll come back a few days later and they'll be standing outside again.

Explain! Also, Willow Bank. What's that for?

 

[Javert]

I want to buy a horse, but does it always respawn outside a city/cave/fort when I exit it? Do I have to get to x-city to retrieve the horse? What if it wanders away when I fight on foot?

 

[sinkoman]

I want to buy a horse, but does it always respawn outside a city/cave/fort when I exit it? Do I have to get to x-city to retrieve the horse? What if it wanders away when I fight on foot?

If you buy a horse it'll stay outside the city in the local stable.

Do a bit of the main quest though. You get a free horse.

And it shouldn't wander while you're fighting on foot, but occasionally, it'll go exploring on its own accord. Just fast travel to anywhere and it'll appear next to you.

 

[AiM]

If you buy a horse it'll stay outside the city in the local stable.

Do a bit of the main quest though. You get a free horse.

And it shouldn't wander while you're fighting on foot, but occasionally, it'll go exploring on its own accord. Just fast travel to anywhere and it'll appear next to you.

The free horse is crap, it's slow and dies easily...

Save yourself some money and get a decent horse

 

[Dog--]

It's crap, but it's free.

 

[sinkoman]

NEED AN OPPINION!!!

I just picked up an almost complete set of Glass Armor (sans Gloves and Helm), and I get a total of 28 armor with the set and my elven sheild.

Now, what I had been using before the armor, was the Dark Brotherhood sneaky leather armor that you get when you join. That with my sheild gives about 24 armor.

Now, I can't decide which to keep in my inventory, and which to dump in a crate at my house.

The DB set gives +10 to sneak, blade, marksmanship, security, and a whole bunch of other things. At current, the entire Glass Armor set is unenchanted.

I was thinking of just going with the Glass Armor, because, even if it DOES way a shitload more and doesn't offer any sneak, blade, or strength benefits, I could always just enchant the set to give some Feather, Sneak, Strenght, Blade, Security, and whatever benefits I want. Not to mention that it offers a ton more protection (once I get some gloves and a helm, I bet I can make 30+ armor with the set). Also, the glass set lasts a lot longer than the DB armor. The DB armor will take me maybe halfway through an average dungeon before it breaks and i'm left naked.

So which do you guys think I should keep?

 

[AiM]

It's crap, but it's free.

Well if someone offered to give you a literal piece of human feces for free, would you take it?

Hehe just busting your balls, don't hurt me!

I mean look at this kitty!

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/runs

NEED AN OPPINION!!!

I just picked up an almost complete set of Glass Armor (sans Gloves and Helm), and I get a total of 28 armor with the set and my elven sheild.

Now, what I had been using before the armor, was the Dark Brotherhood sneaky leather armor that you get when you join. That with my sheild gives about 24 armor.

Now, I can't decide which to keep in my inventory, and which to dump in a crate at my house.

The DB set gives +10 to sneak, blade, marksmanship, security, and a whole bunch of other things. At current, the entire Glass Armor set is unenchanted.

I was thinking of just going with the Glass Armor, because, even if it DOES way a shitload more and doesn't offer any sneak, blade, or strength benefits, I could always just enchant the set to give some Feather, Sneak, Strenght, Blade, Security, and whatever benefits I want. Not to mention that it offers a ton more protection (once I get some gloves and a helm, I bet I can make 30+ armor with the set). Also, the glass set lasts a lot longer than the DB armor. The DB armor will take me maybe halfway through an average dungeon before it breaks and i'm left naked.

So which do you guys think I should keep?

Depends whether you need those extra sneak / feather / strength benefits, and if you can't repair that in-field then I'd definately go with Glass Armor. Glass armor happens to drop dime-a-dozen past level 25-ish anyway, so don't worry you'll get more after every humanoid encounter.

 

[sinkoman]

Well if someone offered to give you a literal piece of human feces for free, would you take it?

Hehe just busting your balls, don't hurt me!

I mean look at this kitty!

...

/runs



Depends whether you need those extra sneak / feather / strength benefits, and if you can't repair that in-field then I'd definately go with Glass Armor. Glass armor happens to drop dime-a-dozen past level 25-ish anyway, so don't worry you'll get more after every humanoid encounter.

KK.

I don't think I really need the boost to Sneak. My sneak is at 100 already, and I use a 30% Chameleon amulet I named the Pendant of the Holy (ala your xfire handle ).

And what I meant by feather, was that if the glass armor starts to take up too much looting space compared to the DB set, then I could always just enchant some glass boots to have a 30% feather or something.

So, if glass armor is a dime a dozen after 25, then what would you say is the Light endgame armor, if the Daedric set is the Heavy endgame?

Side question I guess. I got a daedric helmet a few hours ago and sold it for about 1200 gold (was worth 3500 or so). Should I have kept it? I mean, it was actually giving me LESS armor than my DB cap, and was Heavy armor (i'm still novice heavy, but journeyman light). I guess the side Q is, what should I do with daedric armor, me being a light armor dude.

EDIT ON THE ARMOR QUESTION: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Armor#Leveled_List_Info

So, does that mean glass is the best it gets for light armor?

 

[VirusType2]

I haven't seen anything better than glass and daedric (I'm level 37), except for special pre-enchanted items that you may find or get as rewards for quests.

After raiding a dungeon, I usually come out with a few sets of glass armor and/or daedric armor. You might keep a couple sets of the armor type you use in your house so that you can enchant them differently. For example, if you had some glass boots with feather, and later you changed your mind and wanted glass boots with some other enchantment.

Otherwise sell it all, and 1200 is the max for me as well. I have so much damn money it is ridiculous. Still looking for ways to spend it...

 

[AiM]

KK.

I don't think I really need the boost to Sneak. My sneak is at 100 already, and I use a 30% Chameleon amulet I named the Pendant of the Holy (ala your xfire handle ).

And what I meant by feather, was that if the glass armor starts to take up too much looting space compared to the DB set, then I could always just enchant some glass boots to have a 30% feather or something.

So, if glass armor is a dime a dozen after 25, then what would you say is the Light endgame armor, if the Daedric set is the Heavy endgame?

Side question I guess. I got a daedric helmet a few hours ago and sold it for about 1200 gold (was worth 3500 or so). Should I have kept it? I mean, it was actually giving me LESS armor than my DB cap, and was Heavy armor (i'm still novice heavy, but journeyman light). I guess the side Q is, what should I do with daedric armor, me being a light armor dude.

EDIT ON THE ARMOR QUESTION: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Armor#Leveled_List_Info

So, does that mean glass is the best it gets for light armor?

w00t! <3 Pendent name

Not 100% sure about this but I read that anything over 100 skill points = irrelevant.

Hm... from what I understand Glass Armor is the end-game Light Armor set, it's just that with the scaling pretty much every joe shmoe (especially Bandits) will be equipped with it. :/

From what I understand, the most you could ever sell an item for is ~1700 (that's with 100 Mercantile). I'd just sell all your Daedric equipment, both armor sets are near mirror images of one another once you hit 100 skill points. The light armor skills get 50% bonus which makes it as tough as Heavy Armor, Heavy Armor Master skill makes it so the armor weighs nothing, basically paralleling Light Armor.

edit: Typos

 

[sinkoman]

w00t! <3 Pendent name

Not 100% sure about this but I read that anything over 100 skill points = irrelevant.

Hm... from what I understand Glass Armor is the end-game Light Armor set, it's just that with the scaling pretty much every joe shmoe (especially Bandits) will be equipped with it. :/

From what I understand, the most you could ever sell an item for is ~1700 (that's with 100 Mercantile). I'd just sell all your Daedric equipment, both armor sets are near mirror images of one another once you hit 100 skill points. The light armor skills get 50% bonus which makes it as tough as Heavy Armor, Heavy Armor Master skill makes it so the armor weighs nothing, basically paralleling Light Armor.

edit: Typos

Yeah.

I was just clearing out a random Ayleid ruin I found near chorrol, and it happened to be loaded with Bandits. I thought that was pretty awesome, since NPCs are so much fun to mess with once you've mastered sneak and have some chameleon on you (basically a sneaky bitch).

I was stalking a few of them and noticed this one guy had a glass Cuirass on him. I went "AWESOME I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR GLASS THE ENTIRE GAME!!!" and pounced on him as soon as he was out of sight from his companions.

Two other Bandits in the chamber I was in heard him scream, and ran over. I scramed and watched them pace around his corpse looking for me. The freaked out for a few minutes running around in circles and screaming like little girls, till I noticed this other guy had some glass pants. I figured "AWESOME MORE GLASS THIS IS MY DAY!!!" and jumped on him.

Other guy ran over and he had glass boots. Same deal, dealt with him and moved on through the cavern with my new armor.

Found the bandit ringleader and made quick work of him. Took his glass gloves, and that's when I noticed that as of late, every single bandit i've been seeing has a Mithril shield, elven cuirass, Mithril pants, a glass blunt of some kind (worth TONS of cash and easy to find), and has some sort of glass accessory.

Kinda ruins the mood imho. Would make sense if the adventurers you see running around caves had glass, but why would some thief on the run be decked with millions of dollars?

Another Question (as i'm thinking of implementing this with the armor)

Anybody ever notice a difference with the Reflect Spell/Damage, Drain Intelligence/willpower/endurance, or the damage luck enchantments?

And what's the difference between the Fire, Frost, Shock, and Normal Shield spells?

 

[VirusType2]

Anybody ever notice a difference with the Reflect Spell/Damage, Drain Intelligence/willpower/endurance, or the damage luck enchantments?

And what's the difference between the Fire, Frost, Shock, and Normal Shield spells?

I've noticed the reflect spell. By chance, it will cast the spell back at them. Instead of you in a cloud of fire or what-have-you, it will damage the enemy that cast it at you.

The other ones you mentioned like 'drain' seemed pointless to my feeble mind. they aren't going to live long enough for 5 or 10 intelligence drain or anything to ****ing matter.



Fire, frost, shock shield? self explanatory. I assume, though I have never bothered with them, is that it reduces the damage, although I guess there is a possibility that it boosts your chance to resist it, although then it would be better to just go for Magic resist IMO, so I believe it's the first reasoning.


Normal shield (restoration class spell) increases your armor for a short time. Best to use before engaging in a melee. You can actually watch your Armor class go up after casting it. Max armor class is 85 and my armor class is 85 unbuffed, so this spell is useless, unless I'm in a huge brawl with tons of enemies and my armor is badly damaged or broken. Only then is it useful for someone like me.

Restoration class is best just because you can heal yourself. Like athletics, It is slow as hell to level up, but it gets gooooood. I'm almost an expert (almost level 75 restoration)and my toon is level 37.

 

[sinkoman]

Ok, I got a bunch of grand souls, and I can't decide which pieces of the armor to enchant with what.

Ideas?

EDIT: Which of these looks cooler to you?

http://www.tessource.net/files/image.php?id=575

http://www.tessource.net/files/image.php?id=598

Now, coolness aside, which do you think looks better for a thief type character?

 

[Stigmata]

Ok, I got a bunch of grand souls, and I can't decide which pieces of the armor to enchant with what.

Ideas?

EDIT: Which of these looks cooler to you?

http://www.tessource.net/files/image.php?id=575

http://www.tessource.net/files/image.php?id=598

Now, coolness aside, which do you think looks better for a thief type character?

The second looks cooler, full-stop. The first is more appropriate for a thief, as it isn't shiny, but the second doesn't look all matte-finish-and-crap.

 

[Laivasse]

That blacksmith guy certainly looks impressed by the first one.

 

[JNightshade]

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how the hell do you do that!?

 

[VirusType2]

...
how the hell do you do that!?

Looks like someone modded the glass armor textures and specular maps, one of the first things I would have done once I start modding this game as well. That green glass crap has got to go.

Did this guy upload his mod?

 

[sinkoman]

Looks like someone modded the glass armor textures and specular maps, one of the first things I would have done once I start modding this game as well. That green glass crap has got to go.

Did this guy upload his mod?

Yeah. There are a TON of glass color mods.

Just go to tessource.com and search for "glass" under oblivion mods.

Be careful which you download though. Some of them actually replace the green glass texture (making ALL glass armor that one color), while others just add a new set of glass armor you can purchase at a certain retailer.

Check out the female glass armor mod too. If I had a female character, i'd dl that in a heartbeat.

EDIT: WOW! You guys really should check out that dark-glass-extra mod. It's pretty cool. Depending on the ammount of light shining on your armor, it's either pure black or tinted silver.

In the mid day sun, when you're outdoors, the armor looks like a noble set of shimmering silver plates, while in the moonlight, it's pitch black with a nice shimmer to it.

I like it allot

Oh, but the set is a shitload. Costs like, 10K+ gold.

 

[Cormeh]

Help appreciated:

Dark Brotherhood - Early Retirement contract. I've tried this over and over but can't kill this Adamus guy with the supplied arrow. I pick him out when he's bathing in the small lake, but the supposed fatal arrow doesn't kill him as is promised. This is with sneak multipliers. Any help?

 

[French Ninja]

I didn't even bother with the special arrow; I could never find him without his armor on.

So I suggest just try and kill him with regular arrows and then run out of there as fast as possible.

 

[Danimal]

He takes his armour off when he swims.

 

[Jintor]

Perhaphs you're bugging. i did this yesterday and the only bug was that no matter what the bodyguard would always find and attack me, often starting a riot in the process.

He has a crapload of health, though, so I advise the (ingame) advised assassination method. If it doesn't work, don't worry - the bonus is not dependant on you using the Rose of Sithis on him, just on cutting off his finger and putting it in the desk, so go ahead and kill him any way you want.

/EDIT I'd still like to know what Willow Bank and Riverview in Cheydinhall are for. They're never non-trespassable.