Starcraft 2: Multiplayer

Quixoticism said:
Yeah but you can use it right away once it is researched. When randoming Toss I really liked the energy bar on Thors because it allowed for a very nice feedback. :(

And wow that is quite the nerf on the void ray. From 25 to 16(vs armored)
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I'd call it a Void Ray Buff, tbh....now it's not only used for cheesy openings, but can actually be used in an army composition. From 5 dmg to 10 dmg vs armored? Oh hell yes.
 
So I just picked up this game and i'm playing through single player to learn the controls / units. I'm also watching a ton of videos on youtube of good players in multi.

I'm scared to play multi cause I will do poo :(

Anyone got any tips for me? How to improve micro / macro? Do I just jump in and get called a noob a lot?
 
1.) Play with other .netters. We help our own

2.) Just play. Don't be afraid of doing bad. How else will you learn?

3.) You'll start off playing against other newbs.
 
The system will try to match you so that your overall win ration will be 50%.

God I want my account back! Lost my 1400 zerg there :'((((((
 
kazsymonds said:
So I just picked up this game and i'm playing through single player to learn the controls / units. I'm also watching a ton of videos on youtube of good players in multi.

I'm scared to play multi cause I will do poo :(

Anyone got any tips for me? How to improve micro / macro? Do I just jump in and get called a noob a lot?
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Focus solely on macro in the beginning. In the words of Day9, just say to yourself "SCV/Supply Depot" (if you're protoss then probe/pylon obviously, zerg is different though) the whole game and make sure you never get supply blocked and that you always produce workers. Your economy is the most important part.
 
As a terran player, you can see the Terran nerfs are focused on Reapers, which I don't like to deal with since they're so succeptible to rushes, so it's not a big deal to me. However, I don't understand the whole medivac speed nerf. The last think I ever thought about medivacs was that they were too fast. It's weird they'd bring that down. The Thor and Corruptor timers are an interesting thing. Does anyone know if it will actually make them able to use their abilities faster overall? I'm glad the roaches only got one point of range so that Marines and Marauders still outrange them. I can still beat them in a choke.

So what's with the zerg building life increase? It can't be just for reaper rush since they basically killed it. I thought the whole reasoning behind weaker zerg buildings was the fact that they heal themselves?
 
StarBob said:
As a terran player, you can see the Terran nerfs are focused on Reapers, which I don't like to deal with since they're so succeptible to rushes, so it's not a big deal to me. However, I don't understand the whole medivac speed nerf. The last think I ever thought about medivacs was that they were too fast. It's weird they'd bring that down. The Thor and Corruptor timers are an interesting thing. Does anyone know if it will actually make them able to use their abilities faster overall? I'm glad the roaches only got one point of range so that Marines and Marauders still outrange them. I can still beat them in a choke.

So what's with the zerg building life increase? It can't be just for reaper rush since they basically killed it. I thought the whole reasoning behind weaker zerg buildings was the fact that they heal themselves?
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Medivac slow down was more than likely for drops. The life increase was so 4 marauders can't drop into your main and snipe your lair and spire in one drop before your army gets there.
 
I almost want to switch to protoss and abuse the depot barracks to death. I wonder if what I have in mind will actually work. :naughty:
 
I'm Toss for now. Next race I solo is Zerg, so you'll be waiting for a while lol

Then again, you'll be waiting until next week, when my ****ing computer parts come in :(
 
Ok, so I bought the game properly after playing on a friends machine. I haven't installed yet, any .netters fancy a game? I won't be very good!

I know that the 3 races are equal, but anyone got any opinions on which is best to play if you are a noob?

I guess I get like a username for this battlenet thing and add people?
 
Finally got my account back!

Damn Zerg is pimp now. Terran doing a drop? Not going to snipe my spire with that 5apm micro anymore! Terran landing vikings, FG and boom you lost all your vikings (can't change modes anymore when fg'd). Thors are now much more easy to handle. I actually thought 5RR would be really effective but surprisingly people are now building marauders in the dark :p. Only bad thing seems like is that ZvZ is going back to the beta state. Roach roach roach.
 
Yeah, it seems like I'm suddenly losing to Zerg now.

I should get back to my early game Marauder + Helion build w/ Thors for AA.
 
kazsymonds said:
So I signed up. My name in SC2 is BazKurger. I'd appreciate if a .netter would play a couple of games with me before I go online with the general public to get my confidence up.

Also - glad I found the button to skip cutscenes in campaign...

EDIT: I'm BazKurger #698

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1627383/1/BazKurger/
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Whenever I get everything back up and running, I'll add you. You're best bet is to play the campaign and then do the challenges while playing against the AI first off. You need to know what all the units do/what they are strong and weak against/etc. Otherwise you're going to go into multiplayer VERY frustrated.
 
There's no way I can justify waking up/staying up to watch the GSL, since it's on a weekday, and I work Mon-Fri. VODs are good enough for me.
 
StarBob said:
The Thor and Corruptor timers are an interesting thing. Does anyone know if it will actually make them able to use their abilities faster overall?
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This is actually a giant nerf to Protoss. Curruptors and Thor's can no longer be feedbacked. (Fedback?)
 
Few things to get you started kazsymonds:

Start watching VODs. I never played RTS games before online, well I played HON and DoTA for some time but I don't find them similar. Just by watching the VODs I got to diamond level. Some good ones:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154 (general advices all around)
http://www.youtube.com/user/PsyStarcraft (lots of zerg games)
http://www.youtube.com/user/HDstarcraft
http://www.youtube.com/user/xHydrax

At the begining, **** micro. Just play macro every damn game. During the beta I switched from Protoss to Zerg to polish my macro. I found out that learning to expand was the easiest with Zerg.

Learn what units are good against what.

Every time you lose a game, go watch the replay and try to see why you lost. Don't focus on things that are going well, just try to find bad things as much as you can. Then pick the worst of them and focus on that until you get it right. Don't try to fix everything in one game.
 
Ok, so I just found the purpose of the Ctrl and Shift keys.

I feel a little silly at this point.
 
Are you able to add people from other countries on B.N?

Silver invited me to add him, but It wont accept his details.

In my first game I got pwnt by a noob, I want to get better.

Quite enjoying campaign though, just done the train mission, it was cool.
 
Ahhhh shit, you're in the UK. Bnet 2.0 is region locked. You'll only be able to play with the Europeans :(
 
CyberPitz said:
Ahhhh shit, you're in the UK. Bnet 2.0 is region locked. You'll only be able to play with the Europeans :(
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That's unbelievably gay.

I wish SC was delivered by steam.

So, do we have any other UK SC players?

:(
 
I realized today that a 1600 protoss does just fine with average apm of 38 in a 40min match.
 
Bakurei said:
I realized today that a 1600 protoss does just fine with average apm of 38 in a 40min match.
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Just goes to show you can have 1600 points in diamond and still not be a good enough to hang with the pros ;)
 
Hell yeah. I'm in the Pro League!

I may not be pro, but when I was in Diamond before the end of the beta, I wasn't joking with myself saying that I was so good lol.
 
Apparently they're adding something called the Grandmaster League for the top 200 players.
 
Even the Hellion at Blizzcon understands the facepalm potential...

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This just in, been watching a few vids every day and i'm still shit.

Persevering though, it's a great game, it just shits on the noobs.

Next up - learn the hotkeys, finish campaign, give multi a proper go (and pick a race to get good at).

I'm flabbergasted by not being able to play with anyone outside Europe though. Really horrible.
 
If I get it where I currently am (West Coast Canada) would I be able to play with all of you East Coast Americans, or would I be limited to Westies?
 
^^ Starcraft Pro.

I won a game. We had massive armies in the end with thors and battle cruisers everywhere. Really annoying cause he kept rebuilding with SCVs over the other side of the map (he had loads so I couldn't kill them all).

This was the encouragement I needed, Im gonna play another game.

Is there anywhere I can find counters for each unit? I.e he had loads of Marines, they were so annoying to kill with my thors / marauders. In the end I got hellions and sent them in.

At the end of the game he sent a swarm of SCVs at my army of thors / tanks / 3 battlecruisers, it was hilarious. I just pulled all of my SCVs of the line to fight his.
 
@kaz, play the first three Challenges. The hints for each of those missions talk all about the counters and plus you get to practice them. Lol @ SCV vs SCV end game battle.
 
Because of the inflation, 1600 diamond is really just at the edge of breaking MID diamond.
 
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