The Ten Commandments

[Locust]

The Commandment
The Call
Action

1
I am the LORD your God, you shall have no other gods before me. Faith (Trust in God)
All faith in God, freedom from lesser gods: wealth, sex, power, popularity.
2
You shall not take the Name of the LORD your God in vain. Respect

Holiness
Respect for God and the things of God: prayer, worship, religion.
3
Keep holy the Sabbath day. Renewal
Not just the Sabbath rest, but setting aside time for prayer, good recreation, quiet reflection.
4
Honor your father and your mother. Family
Loving care and respect for all family members, elders and younger siblings, too. Respect for elders in general.
5
You shall not kill. Respect For Life
Courtesy to all, speaking respectfully to all, seeking the best for all. Respecting others' freedom while still defending all human life.
6
You shall not commit adultery. Chastity

Faithfulness (Fidelity)
Faithful actions beyond just abstaining from sexual contact outside of marriage. Respect for sex and marriage.
7
You shall not steal. Justice (Honesty)
Concern for the rights of others, especially when they get in the way of what we desire. A commitment to fairness and a willingness to suffer loss rather than depriving another.
8
You shall not bear false witness. Truth
A dedication to what is real and true, even if that reality is against our interests.
9
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife. Purity
A desire to want only what God wills. A single-hearted devotion to God's way.
10
You shall not covet your neighbor's goods. Generosity
A cooperation in God's own generosity that sees all goods as belonging to God and freely given for the good of all.


Tell me one thing wrong with these rules.

 

[gh0st]

number 5, i dont see the purpose in it.

theres nothing wrong with them, since our constitution has many of their principles. and we all know the constitution is a perfect document

edit: if theres one thing wrong with them, its that they are too idealistic.

 

[Locust]

number 5, i dont see the purpose in it.

theres nothing wrong with them, since our constitution has many of their principles. and we all know the constitution is a perfect document

edit: if theres one thing wrong with them, its that they are too idealistic.

Naw that ones not important. Lets go kill some people we don't like now.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

3 whats the point of the sabbath? why set aside a whole day? why that specific day? seems kinda arbitrary.

seeing as i'm more or less an athiest, 1 and 2 are kinda silly too

 

[gh0st]

Naw that ones not important. Lets go kill some people we don't like now.

it was sarcasm, i thought it was obvious because my next phrase invalidated my first one.

 

[Locust]

so was mine. Maybe not sarcastic enough.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

mine wasn't

 

[Locust]

It is called dedication. it is easy to lose dedication when you do nothing to participate.

 

[gh0st]

mine wasn't

silence heretic. YOU WILL ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD K.

 

[qckbeam]

I'll just let George do the talking. I agree with him.

 

[f|uke]

Tell me one thing wrong with these rules.

Its christian dogma written to control the masses and impose someones idea of morality. Half of the laws are noble (dont kill, steal, be faithful), the rest are unreasonable (do not covet), and the rest are just bullshit Christian rhetoric (God is Lord, dont take his name in vain,. whatever. My God doesn't have a stick up his ass).

 

[Locust]

Its christian dogma written to control the masses and impose someones idea of morality. Half of the laws are noble (dont kill, steal, be faithful), the rest are unreasonable (do not covet), and the rest are just bullshit Christian rhetoric (God is Lord, dont take his name in vain,. whatever. My God doesn't have a stick up his ass).

Those were the original ten commandments. Jesus summarized them by saying; Love the lord you God and your neighbor as yourself.

And as we all know Jesus was the man. :afro:

 

[DoctorGordon]

"Faithful actions beyond just abstaining from sexual contact outside of marriage. Respect for sex and marriage. "

Sexual contact outside of marriage a no no? Bah.
Fundamentally this has no meaning at the universal level. It’s highly apparent it’s a human derived law. Originally the idea of sex was procreation.

Respect for sex and marriage? Bah!
If your partner wants to 'go out', that means they arent getting what they want at home. No need to lock them in; let them head out and come back happily, or not…cause they obviously aren’t originally getting the fulfillment they want.

Also, marriage is a couple words and a piece of paper as far as im concerned.

As for the vain thing:
"oh my god!!! MY HEAD!!! AHHHH--"

 

[gh0st]

I'll just let George do the talking. I agree with him.

haha. :imu:

 

[f|uke]

Love the lord you God and your neighbor as yourself.

And as we all know Jesus was the man. :afro:

Truth. Jesus was a righteous dude (no sarcasm). He really was a man of peace and understanding. Too bad so many of his follows don't understand his message, and have attitudes like "America > Earth"

 

[gh0st]

and have attitudes like "America > Earth"

who says thats my "attitude"? i hardly doubt you know me better than i do. i thought it was obvious enough that its satire, but if you want to discuss it further why dont you pm me.

edit: and who said i "folllowed" anything? ha, get a clue.

 

[Locust]

True. I think his message is highly misunderstood, like when the crusades occured or the inquisition. Jesus' message should be taken to heart and lived, not preached by a hipocrit. it is important to inform people, but it is up to the individual to do loving actions for any and everyone, as Jesus did.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

silence heretic. YOU WILL ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD K.

kthxbye.

who says thats my "attitude"? i hardly doubt you know me better than i do. i thought it was obvious enough that its satire, but if you want to discuss it further why dont you pm me.

edit: and who said i "folllowed" anything? ha, get a clue.

why do you think he was talking about you?

 

[f|uke]

who says thats my "attitude"? i hardly doubt you know me better than i do. i thought it was obvious enough that its satire, but if you want to discuss it further why dont you pm me.

edit: and who said i "folllowed" anything? ha, get a clue.

Uh. Christians are followers, as the lord is thy shepard. If you don't really believe that "America > Earth", then I guess my comments dont apply to you. But that does seem to be the attitude of most Bush supporters.

 

[gh0st]

why do you think he was talking about you?

if he didnt use the quotes i might not think he was.

But that does seem to be the attitude of most Bush supporters.

god.. i see where this is going.

 

[Locust]

I will bet all of you right now that when your fifty you will be kneeling before whatever god you may believe in and wish you had done alittle more with your young lives. I personally don't want to look back on my life when I'm fifty and found that I have accomplished absoultly nothing.

 

[qckbeam]

I will bet all of you right now that when your fifty you will be kneeling before whatever god you may believe in and wish you had done alittle more with your young lives. I personally don't want to look back on my life when I'm fifty and found that I have accomplished absoultly nothing.

I personally believe any second spent on prayer is a valuable second wasted. What are you on about anyway? Why the totally ludicrous comment?

 

[gh0st]

I personally don't want to look back on my life when I'm fifty and found that I have accomplished absoultly nothing.

religion does not equate to an accomplished life. maybe it does to you, but not to most people.

 

[f|uke]

god.. i see where this is going.

I was just saying that I had no reason to think it was satire. But if you're declaring that it is, I will accept that.

 

[DoctorGordon]

"Abconners"...i like this guy

 

[Neutrino]

I rather liked George Carlin's take on the ten commandments:

Here is my problem with the ten commandments- why exactly are there 10?

You simply do not need ten. The list of ten commandments was artificially and deliberately inflated to get it up to ten. Here's what happened:

About 5,000 years ago a bunch of religious and political hustlers got together to try to figure out how to control people and keep them in line. They knew people were basically stupid and would believe anything they were told, so they announced that God had given them some commandments, up on a mountain, when no one was around.

Well let me ask you this- when they were making this shit up, why did they pick 10? Why not 9 or 11? I'll tell you why- because 10 sound official. Ten sounds important! Ten is the basis for the decimal system, it's a decade, it's a psychologically satisfying number (the top ten, the ten most wanted, the ten best dressed). So having ten commandments was really a marketing decision! It is clearly a bullshit list. It's a political document artificially inflated to sell better. I will now show you how you can reduce the number of commandments and come up with a list that's a little more workable and logical. I am going to use the Roman Catholic version because those were the ones I was taught as a little boy.

Let's start with the first three:

I AM THE LORD THY GOD
THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME

THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN

THOU SHALT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH

Right off the bat the first three are pure bullshit. Sabbath day? Lord's name? strange gods? Spooky language! Designed to scare and control primitive people. In no way does superstitious nonsense like this apply to the lives of intelligent civilized humans in the 21st century. So now we're down to 7. Next:

HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER

Obedience, respect for authority. Just another name for controlling people. The truth is that obedience and respect shouldn't be automatic. They should be earned and based on the parent's performance. Some parents deserve respect, but most of them don't, period. You're down to six.

Now in the interest of logic, something religion is very uncomfortable with, we're going to jump around the list a little bit.

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL

THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS

Stealing and lying. Well actually, these two both prohibit the same kind of behavior- dishonesty. So you don't really need two you combine them and call the commandment "thou shalt not be dishonest". And suddenly you're down to 5.

And as long as we're combining I have two others that belong together:

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTRY

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE

Once again, these two prohibit the same type of behavior. In this case it is marital infidelity. The difference is- coveting takes place in the mind. But I don't think you should outlaw fantasizing about someone else's wife because what is a guy gonna think about when he's waxing his carrot? But, marital fidelity is a good idea so we're gonna keep this one and call it "thou shalt not be unfaithful". And suddenly we're down to four.

But when you think about it, honesty and fidelity are really part of the same overall value so, in truth, you could combine the two honesty commandments with the two fidelity commandments and give them simpler language, positive language instead of negative language and call the whole thing "thou shalt always be honest and faithful" and we're down to 3.

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR"S GOODS

This one is just plain ****in' stupid. Coveting your neighbor's goods is what keeps the economy going! Your neighbor gets a vibrator that plays "o come o ye faithful", and you want one too! Coveting creates jobs, so leave it alone. You throw out coveting and you're down to 2 now- the big honesty and fidelity commandment and the one we haven't talked about yet:

THOU SHALT NOT KILL

Murder. But when you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. More people have been killed in the name of god than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable. It depends on who's doin the killin' and who's gettin' killed. So, with all of this in mind, I give you my revised list of the two commandments:

Thou shalt always be honest and faithful
to the provider of thy nookie.

&

Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless of course
they pray to a different invisible man than you.

Two is all you need; Moses could have carried them down the hill in his ****in' pocket. I wouldn't mind those folks in Alabama posting them on the courthouse wall, as long as they provided one additional commandment:

Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself.

 

[f|uke]

I will bet all of you right now that when your fifty you will be kneeling before whatever god you may believe in and wish you had done alittle more with your young lives. I personally don't want to look back on my life when I'm fifty and found that I have accomplished absoultly nothing.

I'll take you up on that bet. I plan on doing quite a lot in the next 20 years and I am already well on my way.

 

[DoctorGordon]

Ghost

Maybe right before you reach your faithful end you will realize that you are nothing but worm food, or part of a nuclear fallout....

 

[Raziaar]

I'll take you up on that bet. I plan on doing quite a lot in the next 20 years and I am already well on my way.

Lots of gay secks for sure, cause thats the only reason you abhor the christian faith.

:cheers:

 

[Locust]

religion is the only thing that promises eternity. if you spend your life practicing what christianity or whatever religion says is good, you can look back on your life and realize that you have accomplished something. and you dont need to be rich to have it. anyone can do it and be a happy and confident person. and isn't that what life is all about.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

if he didnt use the quotes i might not think he was.

oh lol.. i never even noticed that in your sig.

religion is the only thing that promises eternity.

i promise eternity

 

[Neutrino]

religion is the only thing that promises eternity. if you spend your life practicing what christianity or whatever religion says is good, you can look back on your life and realize that you have accomplished something. and you dont need to be rich to have it. anyone can do it and be a happy and confident person. and isn't that what life is all about.

I don't need religion to lead a full and happy life. But thanks anyway.

 

[Locust]

I'll take you up on that bet. I plan on doing quite a lot in the next 20 years and I am already well on my way.

Just curious. what do you plan on doing that will benefit you as a person and make you better. I suggest you read M. Scott Peck's book, A Road Less Travled. It give some great insights into life and what it is all about. Im not saying take it as gospel, but it is a very inspirational read.

 

[DoctorGordon]

religion is the only thing that promises eternity. if you spend your life practicing what christianity or whatever religion says is good, you can look back on your life and realize that you have accomplished something. and you dont need to be rich to have it. anyone can do it and be a happy and confident person. and isn't that what life is all about.

Life is not about being some selfish goody-2-shoes whose only objective is gaining personal happiness.

 

[f|uke]

Lots of gay secks for sure, cause thats the only reason you abhor the christian faith.

Isn't it past your bedtime? I dont hate Christians, and infact already professed my respect for Jesus. I just dont believe in it the bible or Christianity. Can you tell the difference?

 

[Locust]

But most religion demands personal sacrifice that calls for a death of the selfish pleasures of life and a compassionant heart to all. It is anything but selfish. If you give your life unselfishly to the world by helping those in need, it is more valuable than any house you may acquire or any family you can build or any name you can make for yourself.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

The first commandment blows the most.
6, 2, 4, 9 and 3 also sucketh.


I like the eleventh commandment: "thou shalt disregard all previous commandments."

 

[qckbeam]

religion is the only thing that promises eternity. if you spend your life practicing what christianity or whatever religion says is good, you can look back on your life and realize that you have accomplished something. and you dont need to be rich to have it. anyone can do it and be a happy and confident person. and isn't that what life is all about.

Religion is the only thing that promises eternity? Speak for yourself. It is my belief that all that remains of us after death is the legacy we leave behind. Religion sure isn't going to help me too much in that regard. When I'm laying on my death bed I want to be able to look back and see that I've done something to make the lives of my fellow men better, richer, more enjoyable. That's an accomplishment. Worshiping some invisible man and hoping for some sort of life after death because you're to afraid to acknowledge the possibility that there is nothing waiting for us but a wooden box and six feet of mud isn't an accomplishment. It's a waste of time that could be spent in other much more valuable ways.

 

[f|uke]

Just curious. what do you plan on doing that will benefit you as a person and make you better. I suggest you read M. Scott Peck's book, A Road Less Travled. It give some great insights into life and what it is all about. Im not saying take it as gospel, but it is a very inspirational read.

I plan on becoming a Fire Medic, risk my lives to save others, and give hope to those in great need. I want to help heal the sick, and comfort the dying. I am going to school full time to accomplish this goal.

I looked up that book on Amazon.Com. It doesn't look like a bad read, really,. something that I may agree with as much as I may not approve of paticular wordings.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

for only 5 dollars, i'll promise eternity! it's only 5 dollars guys! come on!