To all who voted for Obama...

hahahaha, this thread is retarded to the point of hilarity.
 
Ridge said:
Alright, guys, I look forward to being able to give an I TOLD YOU SO when you (or your parents) are without jobs because the economy took a collossal shit once the entire US is turned into a Welfare State...
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Bah. The welfare state increases the number of jobs.

Ever heard of the New Deal?
 
Someone **** this tard right off the forum please, his words are a drain on the collective IQ. :dozey:

Your warmonger and his dog lost, you'll have to wait another 4 to 8 years for them to get another chance to bring about the apocalypse I'm afraid, so best pack your rapture suit away.
 
Kadayi said:
Someone **** this tard right off the forum please, his words are a drain on the collective IQ. :dozey:

Your warmonger and his dog lost, you'll have to wait another 4 to 8 years for them to get another chance to bring about the apocalypse I'm afraid, so best pack your rapture suit away.
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qft...
 
Now that I've had the opportunity to see what it feels like "from both sides" (i.e. being part of both the winning an losing party) it really puts all of this into perspective.

The truth is, I felt pretty much the same way as Ridge in 2004, and things didn't turn out nearly as badly as I thought it would. We, the democrats, probably feel the same way as republicans did in 2000, and our dismissal of the sort of feelings republicans like Ridge are expressing seems a a bit hypocritical.

As a rule, (though I've had extremely limited experience of this), election-fever tends to make our political views and expectations inflated to the extreme. If our candidate wins, we feel indescribable joy and optimism, and if our candidate loses, we feel dread and uncertainty about the future.

In 2000 and 2004, liberals were making threats to leave the country, or making dire warnings about Bush, and back then, it seemed pretty rational to us liberals, while conservatives scoffed at us and thought we were overreacting. The same thing is happening now, except reversed.

Honestly, Bush was a horrible president, but he wasn't nearly bad enough to make me want to leave the country or threaten to move out into the wilderness or any of that. Bush's administration really didn't change all that much about the way we live our lives, or our prosperity overall. Sure, his overarching policies seem quite atrocious, and the war in Iraq was a horrible idea, but Bush's administration didn't really change the way we lived. It didn't become a fascist dictatorship. We weren't thrown into prison for expressing our freedom of speech, and all of that.

At the same time, Bush didn't meet all the expectations of conservatives. Back when he won, Republicans were talking about a conservative re-take of American values. They were talking about another christian awakening, an abortion ban, a gay marriage ban, vast reductions in taxes, etc. While Bush touted these things, he didn't quite bring them about, and even disappointed conservatives with the bailout plan.

I believe the same thing will happen with Obama. No, he's not going to turn the country into a socialistic, communist dictatorship, but he's not going to turn America into a liberal paradise either. Obama will stick mostly with the status quo, like all presidents. Presidents must be pragmatic. They do what works. What works is usually centrist, so its bound to disappoint everyone with more extreme political views.

So for all of you conservatives like Ridge, relax. It won't be as bad as you think its going to be. And for all of us liberals, get back to reality. The country is facing huge problems. Almost half of the country still disagrees with us. Any policies Obama initiates will have to be centrist enough that the American public will swallow them, but just liberal enough that his own party still supports him.
 
There are not enough palms, nor faces, on the entire internet, to express my feelings towards this thread.
 
...you mean there's a possibility that Obama ISN'T some sort of Islamic Manchurian Candidate? He may not aim to bring end to America?

I've been a fool for supporting him.
 
The American people will see when their own taxes is raised, considerably.
 
Bacons said:
The American people will see when their own taxes is raised, considerably.
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How else do you plan on paying for the bail-out, the Iraq War and the budget deficit? You think the government gets more money by lowering taxes? Get fucking real.
 
theotherguy said:
Bush's administration really didn't change all that much about the way we live our lives, or our prosperity overall.
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True, but he didn't have the majority on his side in the House AND Senate. Plus, he didn't seal his presidency with the idea of change. I think were going to witness a lot of change... for the better. So suck it up republicans.
 
The Monkey said:
How else do you plan on paying for the bail-out, the Iraq War and the budget deficit? You think the government gets more money by lowering taxes? Get fucking real.
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I'm talking about the government spending for all the social programs that will happen. Obama won't cut spending.
 
Bacons said:
I'm talking about the government spending for all the social programs that will happen. Obama won't cut spending.
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The budget typically improves under Democratic rule. Spending doesn't matter if he works to balance the budget and bring us back into a surplus.

It'll take a while though to fix much of the damage the Bush Administration caused.
 
CptStern said:
HOPPED UP ON GOOFBALLS!!!


what are you doing to prepare for the next 4 to 8 years? purchasing a rifle scope, drawing a map of the motorcade route, finding a tall building along said route?





oh and Pi Mu Rho in the politics section and it's not to deliver internet justice? I think I just got goosebumps (and possibly wood)
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Hey captain, quit the sarcasm; he may think it its as an "Actual Idea."
 
Bacons said:
I'm talking about the government spending for all the social programs that will happen. Obama won't cut spending.
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What's so wrong with spending? As long as it's spent on the right things...
 
Ridge said:
Let it be known, that we have you to thank for the next 4 years.

Every single thing that happens to this country until January 20th, 2013 will be because of you. Every person killed by terrorists across the globe, their blood is on your hands.

Every person who loses their livelyhood, their jobs, its all because of you.

When it all comes to an end, and the country (and possibly the rest of the planet) is in shambles, it shall be known that it was because you turned a blind eye toward the facts, refused to hear both sides of the stories, and elected a closet Communist to take the helm of the greatest nation the planet has ever seen.

There is no escape. You cannot hide. You may be able to protect the truth from those around you, but you will always know inside that you and your incompetence resulted in the greatest man-made disaster to ever happen to man kind.

Oh, and for good measure...IBTL
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I hope your ****ing joking.
 
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Bacons said:
The American people will see when their own taxes is raised, considerably.
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Obama's tax plan has it set that most Americans will not see their taxes raised at all actually.
 
Did anybody just watch the new South Park? Yeah...that's how I picture most McCain supporters, including this guy.
 
Ridge said:
Let it be known, that we have you to thank for the next 4 years.

Every single thing that happens to this country until January 20th, 2013 will be because of you. Every person killed by terrorists across the globe, their blood is on your hands.

Every person who loses their livelyhood, their jobs, its all because of you.

When it all comes to an end, and the country (and possibly the rest of the planet) is in shambles, it shall be known that it was because you turned a blind eye toward the facts, refused to hear both sides of the stories, and elected a closet Communist to take the helm of the greatest nation the planet has ever seen.

There is no escape. You cannot hide. You may be able to protect the truth from those around you, but you will always know inside that you and your incompetence resulted in the greatest man-made disaster to ever happen to man kind.

Oh, and for good measure...IBTL
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I definately didn't support Obama but this is too dramatic. Obama's power has been limited by a Republican filibuster amount in Congress. Don't expect him to have ease in pushing through the more radical of his proposals. I also feel less threatened by any AWB or further gun control due to the filibuster seats the Republican party gained.

I feel much more confident about the future than I did BEFORE the election- I thought the Democrats would gain a 60 seat majority AND the presidency. They only achieved one.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
I definately didn't support Obama but this is too dramatic. Obama's power has been limited by a Republican filibuster amount in Congress. Don't expect him to have ease in pushing through the more radical of his proposals. I also feel less threatened by any AWB or further gun control due to the filibuster seats the Republican party gained.

I feel much more confident about the future than I did BEFORE the election- I thought the Democrats would gain a 60 seat majority AND the presidency. They only achieved one.
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Wait until 2010. Republicans are still on the way out.
 
Raziaar said:
Wait until 2010. Republicans are still on the way out.
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Doubt this. You can only really see relations between parties from here improve. If Obama is serious about mending party lines this will also prevent it.

I'd like to see "neocons" on the way out and a return to the base principle- fiscal responsibility. The fact that they moved away from that is what pushed me away from the party and as well with many, many others.
 
a 'bastard child' in me was wishing that McCain won, so that I could see all the insane reactions, riots and how hilariously shit it might be for the next 4 years or more.

But then again, Obama ftw.
 
Closet communist you say? Bush gave us nationalized insurance companies, banks, brokerage houses, gave welfare to Iraq and our own form of the redistribution of wealth in the form of our stimulus checks...
 
So if you voted Mccain and someone dies from terrorism its your fault huh?

The death of one is not the fault of the president(Cept for sercurity and all) but then how he reacts what is most major in the situation.
 
by next year im going to see a bunch of laughter in this thread.
 
We can't even wage war against two relatively small countries without running into the red.
 
Ridge said:
Clinton, since the economic decline was a result of 9/11 which happened because Wild Bill chose not to off bin Laden when he had the chance...
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The housing market cratered because the WTO collapsed? I'd like to see one credible source.
 
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