top 10 "evil" Nations?

top 10 evil Nations?

  • United States

    Votes: 35 38.0%

  • North Korea

    Votes: 37 40.2%

  • Iran

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Saudi Arabia

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • Israel

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Syria

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Libya

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Iraq (pre-occupation) any subsequent votes go to the US

    Votes: 3 3.3%

  • France

    Votes: 9 9.8%

  • Russia

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Total voters
    92
  • Poll closed .
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GG Bush

Well i guess this we should keep making those bunker busting nukes now.
 
Icarusintel said:
what do you mean? the US hands out billions of dollars in aid every year, besides, some countries might do good to straighten themselves out on their own, so they could actually learn something rather than being babied along by every other country
edit:eek:h, and france is f*cking evil, them and their damn french language, all of it, pure evil
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1. USA, as well as other western countries, also sell billions of dollars worth of weapons to unstable regions. The billions of dollars of aid might counter some of the sh*t that's being stirred up by them.
2. Some countries are poor because of the third world debt INTEREST they're paying off. They can't get anywhere because rich western countries are draining them of cash each year by making them pay the interest on money they borrowed to help straighten their country out. Lending money to help other nations, then just f*cking them over for profit. Sorry, but I find it sick.

I'm very Marxist in my thinking (in case no-ones ever noticed) and believe that most of the succesful nations, including my own, have a lot more blood on their hands than smaller, less developed nations like Iraq. These countries kill their own population, while we just help, or get directly involved with killing millions of other countries' populations. The US is the most succesful western country, and has the worse recent track record - hence I believe them to be the most 'evil'. Though I think the majority of it's population to be very nice people - the Americans I've met have certainly been far from 'evil'.r
 
burner69 said:
1. USA, as well as other western countries, also sell billions of dollars worth of weapons to unstable regions. The billions of dollars of aid might counter some of the sh*t that's being stirred up by them.
2. Some countries are poor because of the third world debt INTEREST they're paying off. They can't get anywhere because rich western countries are draining them of cash each year by making them pay the interest on money they borrowed to help straighten their country out. Lending money to help other nations, then just f*cking them over for profit. Sorry, but I find it sick.

I'm very Marxist in my thinking (in case no-ones ever noticed) and believe that most of the succesful nations, including my own, have a lot more blood on their hands than smaller, less developed nations like Iraq. These countries kill their own population, while we just help, or get directly involved with killing millions of other countries' populations. The US is the most succesful western country, and has the worse recent track record - hence I believe them to be the most 'evil'. Though I think the majority of it's population to be very nice people - the Americans I've met have certainly been far from 'evil'.r
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The problems we're dealing with today started long ago, during the Second World War and the Cold War, too bad they're catching up to us now, the debt certainly is a problem, but if they took the time, sat down, organized their economy, worked with their people, set up a plan they could work their way out of debt and eventually become a prosperous economy, the problem is that isn;t gonna happen anytime soon cause all they'll keep doing is borrowing, don;t get me wrong, I'd love to see all the "third world" countries standing on their own two feet and prospering
Thank you for saying the American people are nice, though we do have our share of nutjobs, I dunno if I'd call the US evil, we're merely the hegemony and acting as such, we take more liberties with other countries' affairs than we should, but, well, i'd like to think we're trying to make the world a better place, even if we don;t know exactly how to do that
 
Icarusintel said:
Thank you for saying the American people are nice, though we do have our share of nutjobs, I dunno if I'd call the US evil, we're merely the hegemony and acting as such, we take more liberties with other countries' affairs than we should, but, well, i'd like to think we're trying to make the world a better place, even if we don;t know exactly how to do that
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Arming dangerous nations, then either leaving them to f*ck themselves up, or invading and blowing the crap out of them isn't the way to do it.

I'd really like to see an estimation of how many people US policy kills a year, I read an article on it ages ago - it's a lot.

Third world countries are desperate to get out of debt, if they could, they would. The fact is that they can't sell their goods for much, the west makes sure of that. If they're not making money they can't invest on technology or other such things, they're stuck in a rutt - and a big cause of that is the interest we're making them pay back, something that they probably never will unless we do something about it.

How does this sound for making the world better: Stop enforcing crippling restrictions on countries, let them trade competitively and start making money for themselves. Stop selling weapons to countries with terrible human rights records. Stop invading middle eastern countries and subsequently rallying all the fanatics, and people who quite rightly believe they're being invaded to attack you. Stop this: you're either with us, or against us crap.
The list goes on.

But yeah, american public; sound as a pound. My mates moved over there, says it's nice but it's hard to get booze, and the drug laws worry him.
 
Cote D'Ivoire has nukes? Are they even an industrialized nation?
 
that list doesnt reflect who has nukes ..they're all examples of countries living under tyranny/have nukes/are rogue states/have deplorable living conditions/human rights abuses etc
 
But ofcourse not... Iraq has oil. what does africa have? dying innocent people, ****ed over by global capitalism the US get so patriotic about and love.
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Europe set up many countries in Africa back in the day, so really you guys should be fixing your mistake
 
Why isnt the UK on there? Oh yeah, cause this forum is a biast bunch of jealous worthless pussies.
P.S.- Who the hell voted for France?
 
biased!!


Herc! Herc!! it's a periahsis beast, a periahsisss beast!!
 
CptStern said:
that list doesnt reflect who has nukes ..they're all examples of countries living under tyranny/have nukes/are rogue states/have deplorable living conditions/human rights abuses etc
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Oh. I was about to say...




...something.

Hercules331 said:
Why isnt the UK on there? Oh yeah, cause this forum is a biast bunch of jealous worthless pussies.
P.S.- Who the hell voted for France?
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ME. SEVEN TIMES. And just what are you gonna DO about it?
 
Hercules331, ever heard the term 'Shut the **** up, newb'

As soon as extremists fly planes into our buildings, we'll gladly put ourselves in that list, as it will become aparent that somebody in the world sees the UK as a threat or a target.
 
Would anyone vote for the UK?

If we're talking dodgy weapon deals, and immoral behaiour towards other countries - yeah we do it. But if we're classing that as evil (which I kinda do) there's someone doing a HELL of a lot more of it than the UK....
 
Hercules331 said:
Why isnt the UK on there? Oh yeah, cause this forum is a biast bunch of jealous worthless pussies.
P.S.- Who the hell voted for France?
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:rolleyes:
 
As soon as extremists fly planes into our buildings, we'll gladly put ourselves in that list, as it will become aparent that somebody in the world sees the UK as a threat or a target.
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You do know that a terrorist attack to fly planes into the parliment building was foiled in England, don't you? The only reason the attack failed was because of 9/11.

So your contention is that England is less hated becuase that attack happened to fail?

Who shot logic?
 
Al-Qaeda operatives had planned to hijack airplanes in Britain and crash them into the Houses of Parliament and London’s Tower Bridge.
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http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/Articles/displayarticle.asp?article=37

Hey! How about another one?

http://www.itv.com/news/index_808807.html

"Britain's security services thwarted a September 11-style attack on targets including Canary Wharf and Heathrow Airport, according to reports.
The plot is said to have involved pilots being trained to fly into target buildings including London's famous financial centre and the world's busiest airport.
It is one of four or five al-Qaeda planned attacks, since 9/11, that have come to nothing, after the authorities intervened, reports claim."
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THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN 5 MAJOR AL-QAEDA ATTACK ATTEMPTS ON ENGLAND SINCE 9/11, CLEARLY I MUST BE CRAZY FOR POINTING THAT OUT.

I can't belive some of you people. You come on here and argue politics, and I wonder if you have ever watched the news. Al-Qaeda had men on the planes for gods sake, and you've never heard of it?


EDIT: If you have problems with the link try this one instead - http://www.smh.com.au/news/Global-T...k/2004/11/23/1100972364198.html?oneclick=true
 
I read the news everyday and I have to see that.

First article seems to be a bit random, and the itv source doesn't work. Send me some good sources, like any respectable sources eg bbc or cnn?

And calm down. What right do you have to challenge people to stop discussing politics. That's what they do in facist countries eg Nazi Germany.

If it hasn't been in my regular news sources how can I be expected to trawl the dregs of the internet to find something like this idle statement with no further comments:
Al-Qaeda operatives had planned to hijack airplanes in Britain and crash them into the Houses of Parliament and London’s Tower Bridge.
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I'd like a bit more info than just a statement of 'fact', if you please.
 
You are worried that "Homelandsecurity.org" made it up? And check my edit. I posted a secondary link becuase the first went down on me.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6569861/

Intelligence officials now confirm that among the potential targets considered for attack by terror plotters was the United Kingdom’s tallest office tower in London. They also tell NBC News that suspected al-Qaida terrorists were actively trying to recruit pilots to hijack planes in smaller European cities and crash them into London's Heathrow Airport to disrupt international travel.
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Unless you don't like MSNBC either? This was all over the news for days and days. I can't believe I have to prove it to people.
 
Hercules331 said:
Why isnt the UK on there? Oh yeah, cause this forum is a biast bunch of jealous worthless pussies.
P.S.- Who the hell voted for France?
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Calm down, count to ten, and step awaaay from the keyboard...
 
He_Who_Is_Steve said:
You REALLY like posting that video. It's a good one, I watched it...but you REALLY like posting that.
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No I don't really like posting it...I just want all the right wingers to see it.

None of them...not even seinfeld has put up a reasonable defense against it yet.

So I'm gonna keep posting the vid untill everyone sees it.
 
GhostFox said:
You are worried that "Homelandsecurity.org" made it up? And check my edit. I posted a secondary link becuase the first went down on me.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6569861/



Unless you don't like MSNBC either? This was all over the news for days and days. I can't believe I have to prove it to people.
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sorry I was in China at the time (difficult to get uncensored news there - just get loads of news about "China to overtake US GSP in 2020" "China impresses regional neighbours etc").

But foiled attacks are nothing new, we've been dealing with stuff for years. And I mentioned we had the Lockerbie bombing in another thread. That was a big disaster too. That's why we've got airport security in the first place, and it's tight (except you do read about reporters sneaking fake bombs on planes in the tabloids). If your airline security is tight enough noone is going to fly planes into your buildings.

And just because they have a plot doesn't mean they are capable. I'm sure there are a lot of people who would love to fly planes into parliment if they had the chance, not necessarily affliated with Al-Qaeda. Our police and security just have to be able and vigilant enough.

EDIT:

Actually I remember reading that from the daily mail, but dismissed it because it looked like more daily mail scare-mongering...."wooooo, beware citizen! immigrants are taking over!"

I hate the Daily Mail so much.
 
Tr0n said:
No I don't really like posting it...I just want all the right wingers to see it.

None of them...not even seinfeld has put up a reasonable defense against it yet.

So I'm gonna keep posting the vid untill everyone sees it.
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Well..CAN they put up a reasonable defense? Sounds like avoidance to me.
 
He_Who_Is_Steve said:
Well..CAN they put up a reasonable defense? Sounds like avoidance to me.
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Well then I'm gonna keep posting it.

Ether they might be to lazy to watch it....or as the saying goes "they can't handle the truth".
 
But foiled attacks are nothing new, we've been dealing with stuff for years.
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I agree. England has done a very good job. However officials acknolwadge that the main reason the plot was foiled was becuase of 9/11. If Al-Qaeda had the manpower to carry off both attacks at the same time, both would have suceeded.

Anyway, the point of my post was because LePobz said
As soon as extremists fly planes into our buildings, we'll gladly put ourselves in that list, as it will become aparent that somebody in the world sees the UK as a threat or a target.
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My question for him was why he saw failed attacks, and attacks that only failed becuase of 9/11, as an endorsement that the world loves England, but if those attacks had suceeded, the world would hate England.

Obviously I was being facetious, I don't think he really thinks that. Clearly he is simply grossly uninformed.
 
I would have thought North Korea would be a lot higher compared to the US.
 
Tr0n - there is no attack against that video, because the video speaks the truth. It is only scaremongers in the US media that want people to believe this 'Al-Queda' are still targetting US and UK civillians ... There never was a large organised network called Al-Queda ... Osama was never a leader, and it only needed a handful of extremist idiots to cause 11/9 to happen. Politicians used the media to create this 'terrorist threat' to scare people into voting and standing back whilst an illegal war was waged against oil-rich countries.
 
I would have thought North Korea would be a lot higher compared to the US.
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So would most intelligent people. Unfortunately these forums attract a disproportinate % of extremists.
 
Tr0n - there is no attack against that video, because the video speaks the truth. It is only scaremongers in the US media that want people to believe this 'Al-Queda' are still targetting US and UK civillians ... There never was a large organised network called Al-Queda ... Osama was never a leader, and it only needed a handful of extremist idiots to cause 11/9 to happen. Politicians used the media to create this 'terrorist threat' to scare people into voting and standing back whilst an illegal war was waged against oil-rich countries.
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Isn't it time for your medication again?
 
GhostFox said:
Isn't it time for your medication again?
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Isn't it time for you to kiss my white ass?

Untill you bring up a good debate against the video...then all it shows is that it's true.

So please...go on and put up a good defense against it.
 
Everybody who voted for USA must be joking or them ate just stupid. Perhapd you don't like Bush, but to say the the US goverment is worse than NK's is just madness.
 
hmmm tally up all the innocents killed by NK over the last 50 years and then do the same for the US
 
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