Valve apologizes to fragmaster

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valve's Chris Bokitch has apologized for comments he made about planethalflife and fragmaster

http://www.chatbear.com/board.plm?a=viewthread&t=823,1065133633,20336&b=3840&id=546384&v=flatnew&s=0

First, I'd like to apologize to Fragmaster - whether it was true or not, I shouldn't be making statements like that. It's cool that he's managed to reach this likely obscure corner of the VERC community tho.

I'd like to address what he said though. My job is not to keep the community up to date with the latest rumors and speculation (which is really all that's available at the moment) and hacker doings, nor is it to post my editorialized thoughts of recent events, nor is it to leak news about an on-going criminal investigation (you can probably imagine the trouble that would lead to).
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Ah well, no matter how an ass Fragmaster can sometimes be, Chris is right that he shouldn't make such comments.
 
I would take the link out that forum has screenies of the beta.
 
Quit being such Valve fanboys, sheesh.

you don't owe them anything! :)
 
Chris got on his knees like a bitch because Valve told him to apologize...

...which also tells me eveything Fragmaster said is 98.977% truth.
 
Originally posted by Gilgamesh
Quit being such Valve fanboys, sheesh.

you don't owe them anything! :)
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As soon as you stop being a troll!
 
let me clear that up, valve got ****** over up and down, first the source code, then the beta. and now the community knows that they lied about some many aspects of the game, ex: AI, non scripted sequences, ect all lies. and gabe doesn't look too hot.

in other words

valved = owned kthnxthrowkleenextissueatgaben00bellandslaphimforbeingaliarhedeserveshisgamebeingleakedggthatsall
 
How exactly are valve owned?

The guy said it so we all know he means it, whether he apologies or not he really still believes in what he originally said. I'm fine with FragMasters ways but I say kudos to Chris who spoke his mind. It's a shame he has to hold back because of the company he works for.

Chris nor valve were owned at all, it's a simple matter of ethics.
I imagine the rest of Valve think the same as Chris's original statement.

Those of us with an IQ above the number in in my name know how you really feel Chris ;)
 
Chris did cross the line with that comment. It's good to see him take responsibility for it and acknowledge that he was out of line.

(See? I DO say bad things about Valve! I'm just fair about it.)
 
Originally posted by D33
How exactly are valve owned?

The guy said it so we all know he means it, whether he apologies or not he really still believes in what he originally said. I'm fine with FragMasters ways but I say kudos to Chris who spoke his mind. It's a shame he has to hold back because of the company he works for.

Chris nor valve were owned at all, it's a simple matter of ethics.
I imagine the rest of Valve think the same as Chris's original statement.

Those of us with an IQ above the number in in my name know how you really feel Chris ;)
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I thought 33 was the IQ limit for PR people?
 
Let's be honest here, folks, this isn't the first time someone has reacted to Fragmaster acting like an asshole, and it surely won't be the last.

And if you notice, Chris made it pretty evident that even though he was apologizing for what he said, he still meant every word of it.

He didn't get owned. He just knows how to play the game!
 
Originally posted by ValVed RaY
and they deserve it 100 percent for lying to loyal customers
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You deserve a razor blade enema.
 
Originally posted by Netherscourge
I thought 33 was the IQ limit for PR people?
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Wonder how far companies would get without PR people ;)
 
Well actually, we know.

gg Valve.
 
Originally posted by D33
Wonder how far companies would get without PR people ;)
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:)

Without PR people, the world would have to expect the actual people running the show to reveal all the news - OH THE HORROR!

PR people are tomato shields for the important people.

"Waka waka waka!" Fozzy Bear

;)
 
*rolls eyes* damn children
Chris merely stated his opinion, he made a sny comment and appologized. thats not being owned, thats being a big enough man, to put aside his pride and address his actions.
everyone makes mistakes.
and quite the contrary, he backed up his remarks, with the reason he responded so.
it is not his job to be a PR guy, things at Valve are heated right now.
people need to open their eyes and read... take a look at the bigger picture too fellas
 
I'm going to have to stick with just reading the 'Info from Valve Only' thread. I swear, reading some of your guys crap (eg Valved Ray) just makes me dumber. Its amazing that you're able to use a keyboard...
 
Arrgh... now it starts.
exactly what all the logic thinking people feared...
People start judging the game on an unfinished beta.

First of all, valved ray, if you're pointing at the statment of the anon guy, woho talks about the traptown kickdoor sequence not being AI driven... well, you seem to trust a f*cking hacker who's playing cat and mouse with valve AND the hl2 community.
The truth is, he's talking nonsense there. Various people have tested that sequence and found out that the AI guy IS AI driven, the sequence doesn't always happen.

And besides that... The beta out there isn't a complete valve build. It was built with the leaked source code and resources that were leaked as well. Various programming sites have threads about this rumour, and it seems to be true. And since not 100% of the code was leaked (valve didn't completely lie on that one), it's natural that the beta sucks. And it sucks even more since it was "built" by some f*ckin nerds who don't have any idea about game programming, only about stealing other's people stuff...


Man, stop judging the game on this ****in beta!!!!!!!
 
Chris merely stated his opinion
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And thats the real issue isnt it. As a Public Relations/Represenative of VALVe, its not his job to put forth his opinion. It is his job to represent VALVe, alienating th public no matter what he may think of them is way out of line for someone in his position.
 
Originally posted by Garp
You deserve a razor blade enema.
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I guess you condone the actions of Valve by lying. I certainly do not find this acceptable.
 
"First of all, valved ray, if you're pointing at the statment of the anon guy, woho talks about the traptown kickdoor sequence not being AI driven... well, you seem to trust a f*cking hacker who's playing cat and mouse with valve AND the hl2 community.
The truth is, he's talking nonsense there. Various people have tested that sequence and found out that the AI guy IS AI driven, the sequence doesn't always happen."
it does happen, there is no AI its all scripted sequences, if you dont knock the monitor over kleiner doesnt talk, the hole in the wall is premade characthers dont use the enviroment except zombies throwing barrels at you thats about it. please have some common knowledge before typing anything ever again.
 
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