what do you want to see in cs hl2 port

Flashbangs knock out audio, like they do video. Maybe even a dizzy effect.
Enhancements to mounted weapons, machine guns, r/ls. One of the weak spots of CS now.
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Just no. Think before you post. A flashbang that knocks out audio serves no purpose, and gun enhancements are to come with every update.
 
On the topic of the shield, PLEASEEE get rid of it... it's ridiculous. its not even that i hate that it's so hard to kill that one person. the worst is the fact that you gotta spend a LOT of time trying to kill a shielder, and always when there's a shield people are baiting it intentionally. its like impossible to win in those situations. its also annoying to be shooting at the open side of the shield while they shoot back and it still acts like its hitting shield.

edgem420 said:
Just no. Think before you post. A flashbang that knocks out audio serves no purpose, and gun enhancements are to come with every update.
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how does knocking out audio serve no purpose? many times i have been able to kill someone blind from sound alone, so obviously it does serve a purpose. i dont even agree with adding audio effects to flashbangs and i still have to comment on that. dont flame other people when YOU'RE the idiot
 
ok,
get rid of shield. it just screws up gameplay...
in a 1v1. u just end up running around a map trying to get behind him.. gets out of hand

get rid of awp delay. or change it so that the delay since your last shot... so that if your running around with a pistol and switch, u dont have to wait 2 seconds. but the old awp was ideal

proning is a terrible idea. this is just going to slow down gameplay. theres enough campers in pubs. you might as well give the ability to pitch tents while you're at it

speed up gameplay. appears to have been sped up, but not sure since it was from just a video.


:devil: HIIITTTBOOOXXXESSS :devil:
 
cliffe said:
What would you guys think if we gave the shield the boot?

Cliffe
VALVe
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no i argee it should be improved but it should stay
 
scaryberry said:
Flashbangs knock out audio, like they do video. Maybe even a dizzy effect.
Scary
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Knocking out audio might be a cool idea. But the 2 changes I would like to see would to bring back Sharpnel Flashes(That do about 20 damage) and one of the most important changes to the flash should be to take out the completely white screen. I'd rather see a black screen or just make everything blurry. I dont have the medical research to back up my claim but I know many players, such as myself, play in the dark at home at night and having a 19"+ Monitor go completely WHITE all of a sudden cant be good for peoples eyes. Also there are new wide screen monitors with very high clarity that have come out and when you get flashed on one of those 21" monitors. You actually shield your eyes or close your eyes in real life. So just make flashes make everything 100% blurry(So blurry that no one can ever practice it and get used to aimining in the blurryiness) or make it like Fade To Black and slowly go back to normal. Eye problem solved :)
 
I have no problem with the shield, so I would not really mind if it stayed or was remved.. It can add good teamplay (not like anyone works in teams though, unfortunately) but it should take some damage and be destructable.

Another thought, was with the para, why can you run with a goddamn machinegun like it's a rifle or submg. It should have a bipod that you should have to deploy and mount for it to be efficient.
 
They should do flashes like they are in FC.. those are awesome
 
no shield plz it's cs :)
bring the awp back and fix the weapons recoil (like in 1.5)

Also the thing that recoil is MUCH better if you have a better ping -> i don't like it, you could fix it too right? :)
 
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE INCLUDE A REVOLVER!! A .44 Magnum would be nice, and please make it a tad more powerful than the desert eagle!

Thanks :)
 
Montrey said:
I dont believe you need to completely take out the shield. Most of the problems people see with the game can easily be solved by just making almost everything configurable. Most of the arguments can be settled if theres a server command to turn them off. I'm a League player and sometimes league players dont believe that the creators listen to any of their concerns. Although the league play community is small compared to the broader community; I believe its still an important community(espically when it has $150,000 tournaments and changes to the game can affect alot of people). Here are some suggestions i've gathered that would solve many problems if it was implemented in the HL2 port(Or even in the current 1.6 so that players can get used to it and start to love the game again.)

Sever Command Suggestions:
sv_staminajumping 1/0 (Many league players will remember the jumping without being slowed and believe its still the best way for peaking around corners and such. You cant shoot when jumping so theres no need to slow it down. It only makes it easier to be awped or to awp when you stop/slow down. It took skill away from awping because players didnt have to learn how to stop themselves after jumping anymore because the game did it for them.)
sv_awpdelay 1/0 (Some players really didnt and still dont like the new awp delay so just making it configurable server-side would solve the problems because league players would come together and vote on best settings)
sv_shield 1/0
sv_defusekills 1/0 (Some league players dont want to get 3 kills for holding the use key so this would be good)
sv_ambientnoise 1/0 (Some players use an illegal command called 'stopsound' which i've never tried since its illegal but if this command existed i'm sure the leagues would use 0 so it wouldnt be a problem for anyone)

Regular Suggestions:
I believe the sound for switching from gun to nade(Very low static sound) should be taken out. I use the sound to hear if someone is about to throw a nade but if no one could hear it then it would make the game way more intense.(For those who dont even know about this sound then disregard this suggestion)

When inplementing drastic changes to old maps I believe they should just add a 2 to the end of the map name and make it an entirely new map so that league players can continue to play the regular version(de_aztec2).


These were the only ones I could think of for now(With the help of a few other players) but these are the most important. If more options were just configurable then there would be less need for bickering and less need for major updates due to complaints.

If i were to use one word to summarize my whole post it would be: Configurability
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That's it right there, here's exactly what should be done. I totally agree.
 
imo, unless there are pub people in here, everyone that actually cares about the game and play cs in leagues other then cal-o, will tell you exacally what i tell you, "get it out of the game thx"
 
So allmighty EMJAY your saying when a flashbang is thrown it is then an AUTOKILL for the person that through it, and the person that is blind should have no chance of sound or sight to kill the opponent?
 
cliffe said:
What would you guys think if we gave the shield the boot?

Cliffe
VALVe
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Keep the shield in CS:S. With the Source engine physics it could be affected by weapons fire in ways not currently seen in CS 1.6, so it would seem premature to just scrap it before seeing how it could be implemented and behave with the new physics engine.

Also other possible factors could contribute to the shield not being overpowered, such as increased grenade damage or impact effects (shield knocked from user's hands by grenade concussion?), a specific anti-shield area effect weapon like the Molotov cocktail, a smaller shield with different geometry that would expose the legs to gunfire, etc.
 
Purpose of changing/adding:
A subtle addition of detail to the game. This would also add another level of interaction to the gameplay. Wounded players would be exposed for a short while. There would be chances for misdirection, and ambushing. Attacking players would be encouraged to pursue their targets as the blood trail would be temporary. Players would also get a greater sense of satisfaction knowing that their attack scored a definite hit on their opponent.
Other notes:
The blood trail should fade away over a short period of time.


Suggestion name: Visible footsteps
Effect:
Players footsteps are visible
Purpose of changing/adding:
Adds a level of tracking to gameplay. Also subtly changes the way in which players see their position in the game space. Adds a level of realism to the game.

What in g-ds name are you smoking? CS:S should not be 100% realistic. This aint hunter-strike.
 
* Leave the maps the same size

* Don't change the buy menus again

* Get rid of the shield

* Professional/League-related CVARS (mentioned above several times). This let's pubbies play their pubs and league players play league style. Examples from above:

jumpdelay 0/1
awpdelay 0/1
defusekills 0/1
ambientsound 0/1

* Leave everything else the same aside from the obvious engine/environment improvements
 
cliffe said:
What would you guys think if we gave the shield the boot?

Cliffe
VALVe
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Terrorists need some sort of weapon to deal with it. Usually I just go running in with dualies but that's not very efficient especially if you don't want to die.
 
I say get rid of it. Doesn't add anything to the game at all, and doesn't function in accordance with the standard constants you expect from counter-strike.

Isn't it just leftover scrap from gearbox's CZ?
 
Dunno if you're still reading these Cliffe, but the shield really was a mistake, both for its horrible impact on the pacing and flow of the gameplay and the alienating effect it had on a LOT of longtime CS players. It's honestly in the same category to have players hacking and players using the riot shield in a pub server... something that completely negates the rules of the game (you can shoot thru cover but not this horrible, movable metal slab... sorry your $3500 assault rifle is now useless unless we start circle-strafing like it's quake) not to mention such shields are a tool for riot cops, not counter-terrorists. **Maybe allow it in the scenario where T's are breaking storefront windows and stealing TVs, but it's totally inappropriate for hostage and bombing situations.**

Since beta 1 CS has been about fast-paced shootouts with a semi-realistic tactical feel, and nothing in ANY update (as unpopular as some have been) have been untrue to this model with the exception of the shield, which GRINDS ACTION TO A HALT and flies in the face of all other rules of tactics and gameplay that govern cs. I've been playing since you and gooseman released the very first version and I never was the type to jump on a whining bandwagon but seriously, please, kick that P.O.S. to the curb. kthxbye :)
 
Remove The Shield. And Goto Gotfrag.com And Read The Community Post About This Issue, It Has Way Way More People Saying The Same Thing.
 
It`s possible to include protective glass on a helmet(maintains hits only from pistols, except for Eagle) for the certain payment - ~$500-$600.
 
bobbob said:
> no shields
> vehicles stupid idea
> forget cz
> stop making things idiot friendly
> aim at competitive esports scene - not kids playing on public servers
> esports is what makes cs big not the fools running around public servers
> dont need new guns. stop changing existing guns.
> all of u shut up with ur crazy ideas which may make public more interesting
> dont change realism, fine as is
> netcode is excellent - no need to change it
> ask the top teams / event organisers (CPL) to give opinions not these kids.
> forget single player. you have allready got the best single player game in the world, you wont make 2.
> remove awp delay like he said
> make sure HLTV is ported to new engine
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**** you, who the **** do you think you are. Mr I-Think-I-Am-Better-Than-These-Kids. Go **** yourself people like you give me the creeps. Those things you say are the biggest BULLSHIT I ever heard about CS. A game is made to entertain everyone, not to make a living by some lazy "Pro" f*gg**s.
Get a life, people like you realy anoy me and sorry to everyone else for this language but I think I'm not the onlyone who thinks this way.
 
wow, I can't believe how many people have signed that.. :|
 
Wow, give an opinion, and get flamed as an idiot. Fun boards.
At the risk of being defiled even further, here's another one.
Have a "gas" weapon. Basically smoke, but with a longer stay time, and does damage when you come into contact with it. You'd have to add a gasmask to the equipment side, and make it pretty expensive and limit it to single use (like hegren) so that the map wouldnt bog down.

Just a thought.
 
maybe a kind of sprint mode or somethin
but keep the shield just search for somethin like anti shield weapon
 
How about getting Friends to work? Forget about the shield. Get Friends working.
 
What's with everyone saying that shields should be removed completely? Do you people not understand that if there is an option to disable them and people really do hate them as much as it appears (at least, on this forum) most of the servers will be shieldless anyway. Doing anything other than making shields optional will piss off a lot of people. It's the only logical solution.

... though, I still say they should try to fix/balance the shield even if they give people the option of turning them off.
 
yes to the shield please

if people don't like it or don't want to use it, they can do an easy command that will do that...but for those who do like the shield, leave it in...it's better to have something available even if people don't like it rather than removed completely because some people don't like it.

the problem with shield is that it blocks attacks, and people are not used to it. It should work in a way that the bullets would go through but cause minimal damage. people use it as a bullet wall because they can, if they made the shield suck a lot then people would use it for strats like they are supposed to.

leave the shield, make it easier to remove from the current game, and make it easier to take advantage with

BTW... shield will be A Lot better with CS source, so stop whining because if you don't like shield you can just not play with it, but for those that think of it as a worthy addition to CS... don't take it out for their sake


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There is a way to make CS acceptable by both the competitive players and the harmless public server players. Valve just hasn't found that yet. Or wait, have they already?

Opinion on shield; if you find a way to make it work, sure why not. Making the area it covers smaller while its open would be a good first step or just making the para the ONLY gun able able to shoot through it would make the game more interesting, but not all guns or else it would be useless to have.
 
bobbob said:
> no shields
> vehicles stupid idea
> forget cz
> stop making things idiot friendly
> aim at competitive esports scene - not kids playing on public servers
> esports is what makes cs big not the fools running around public servers
> dont need new guns. stop changing existing guns.
> all of u shut up with ur crazy ideas which may make public more interesting
> dont change realism, fine as is
> netcode is excellent - no need to change it
> ask the top teams / event organisers (CPL) to give opinions not these kids.
> forget single player. you have allready got the best single player game in the world, you wont make 2.
> remove awp delay like he said
> make sure HLTV is ported to new engine
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#1 Shield could be improved. It doesn't really matter to me.

#2 If vehicles are implented they must be in another mode, roundbased with vehicles would take forever!

#3 CZ is Counter-Strike, just better graphics, but I haven't played it really yet, so I don't care if they use stuff from it.

#4 Stop Making things Idiot Friendly?

I have been playing counter-strike since beta 7 and not much has really changed. The menu just looks cooler, but I don't see much that has changed since that. Friendly wise.

#5 "Aim at competitive esports scene - not kids playing on public servers."

Counter-Strike was designed as a game, for fun. Nothing has changed since then. E-Sports are not what counter-strike is focused on. They try to make it as compatible and friendly as possible, but I guess thats just not enough, lol. They could just say screw the E-Sports. And nothing would really change. Someone would just make admin plugins that did all the things valve did.

#6 "E-Sports is what makes cs big not the fools running around public servers"

No E-Sports is only a fraction of what makes CS big. CS is and has been one of the most played games in the world. Only a few fraction of current CS players play in E-Sports. Plus they don't owe you anything. There are currently 32,722 counter-strike servers using steam. And 48,862 players. Now I can tell you the people who play E-Sports is less than half the people playing Counter-Strike.

#7 Don't need new guns. Stop changing existing guns.

Ok, if you really don't like the guns go play and older version of cs. They can change what they wan't just deal with it. I do understand what you mean though. They could possibly implent an sv_allowweapon (the allow weapon being the weapon of your choice)

#8 All of u shut up with ur crazy ideas which may make public more interesting.

They can share their ideas in this thread thus the name. Plus you just did it your self. Why not make public games more interesting?? I thought E-Sports was all that mattered, so it would't effect it would it? So please stop contridicting yourself!

#9 "Don't change realism, fine as is."

Well I think the realism is fine, but their is room for improvement aslong as it's not too drastic.

#10 "Netcode is excellent - no need to change it"

It works fairly well, and is probably one of the best netcodes implented in a game. But It would be cool to see support for more players. And getting pings even lower can't hurt.

#11 "Ask the top teams / event organisers (CPL) to give opinions not these kids."

They are asking everyone, but If I where them I would be having second doubts because I wouldn't want to ask someone who can barely type a paragraph up , and that has so many grammar errors that your curious as to if they finished middle school. Most of these people aren't kids. I infact help post editing news for valve.

#12 "Forget single player. You have allready have got the best single player game in the world, you won't make two."

Well I agree, single player probably wouldn't work out. But I could see a co-op mission agianst bots though.

#13 "Remove awp delay like he said"

I don't have much to say about this. I don't use the AWP enough to really complain or comment.

#14

"Make sure HLTV is ported to new engine"

I agree to. HLTV is an awesome program. Except it should just be implented in the normal server.
 
cliffe said:
What would you guys think if we gave the shield the boot?

Cliffe
VALVe
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Yeah, getting rid of the shield would be great for all players, vets and noobs alike. Noobs wouldn't have coward's device to rely on, they would have to buckle down and learn to shoot. Vets wouldn't have to pissed of all the time when noobs ruin their perfect score :O.

Or just make the sheild and other things EXTREMELY easy to change server side. Please, cliffe, like many said in this thread, listen to the pro gamers. Team 3D is a awesome American team, you should interview them on what they would like in CS:S.
 
what vavle really needs to do is make 2 seperate CS versions, 1 for noob pub people and one for the esports people that actully try to play this game. it will give all the players a balance.

the pub version could have no awp, no bhop, proning, moltov, invincibilty, invisibility, cant shoot through walls, no m4/ak, crazy grenades do crazy stuff, shield, lasers

and the esports one should be like 1.5 or put the awp back to normal and remove the shield, vavle could talk to top esports people like CPL and top competitve teams and go on gotfrag/ampednews and get there opinions on how this should be built.

this seems like the only way of fixing this great game, or they could just make it an esports version cause pubs suck
 
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