Your opinions on gay marriage

[Bad^Hat]

Growing up with one parent and growing up with two parents of the same gender are not the same thing. And I know a guy who grew up with just his mum and he grew up fine. Infact the guy was like my role model in primary school

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Growing up with one parent and growing up with two parents of the same gender are not the same thing. And I know a guy who grew up with just his mum and he grew up fine. Infact the guy was like my role model in primary school

sorry...i wasn't trying to compare my situation to that of a kid with gay parents.. i was just stating that i had a rough childhood.

i guess my main concerns about this is how the kid is recieved by his peers in school/clubs etc.
not only that, but its not always easy for a kid to understand why he/she has a daddy and daddy while the rest of his class mates have a mommy and daddy.

these are just two things popping into my head right now and im sure theres more...

 

[Bad^Hat]

Weird thing is it's the same people saying they shouldn't be allowed kids that are creating the main problem: prejudice

 

[Reaktor4]

Its none of anyones business whether they get married or not and theyre not hurting anyone either.

 

[burner69]

Dr Freeman, it seems like you have changed. You're beginning to realise the problem homosexuals face; acceptance. A child may or may not be bullied for having gay parents, but it is only caused by people with your previous attitude.

It seems like you have realised that perhaps gays aren't so bad afterall. And if not the... well... we tried, but like you say you're entitled to your views.

 

[The Dark Elf]

Dr Freeman, it seems like you have changed. You're beginning to realise the problem homosexuals face; acceptance. A child may or may not be bullied for having gay parents, but it is only caused by people with your previous attitude.

It seems like you have realised that perhaps gays aren't so bad afterall. And if not the... well... we tried, but like you say you're entitled to your views.

It's a different Dr. The one who wouldn't listen left and gave up when he realised.

 

[Icarus]

Dr Freeman, it seems like you have changed. You're beginning to realise the problem homosexuals face; acceptance. A child may or may not be bullied for having gay parents, but it is only caused by people with your previous attitude.

It seems like you have realised that perhaps gays aren't so bad afterall. And if not the... well... we tried, but like you say you're entitled to your views.

No, DoctorGordon was the one that was saying all the bad stuff not Dr. Freeman

 

[burner69]

Dam, thort id done sum good there 2. Sorry guys, got insomnia, aint slept in a while...

 

[Icarus]

Dam, thort id done sum good there 2. Sorry guys, got insomnia, aint slept in a while...

Don't worry, TDE and I understand insomnia all too well

 

[burner69]

There was me thinking we'd done some good on the community. Ah jeez.

Insomnia is bloody bad - and probably caused by homosexuality

 

[Neutrino]

Insomnia is bloody bad

Tell me about it. Almost 4am here.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Heh, I got them mixed up too, till I noticed the avatar =/

 

[Icarus]

Insomnia is bloody bad - and probably caused by homosexuality

I'm not a homosexual:|

 

[Bad^Hat]

I'm not a homosexual:|

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[Icarus]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I never said there was, I personally agree with Gay Marriage

 

[Icarus]

DoctorGordon, we simply do not have a spot on these forums for bigotry. You're a sick person, and no one should have to share a forum with you.

You aren't welcome back on these forums. Ever.

*Banned*

 

[KurtCobain]

I think Dr.Gordon has just been watching 'American History X' and taken it all to heart lol. its a shame.

oh w8 no its not hes a prick.

 

[Gunner]

How many times has Merc been banned?

 

[Bad^Hat]

I never said there was, I personally agree with Gay Marriage

Heh, I'm yanking your chain, mate

Damn, Gordon's gonna be pissed when he gets back...

 

[CTTcrew_MrBlue]

DoctorGordon, we simply do not have a spot on these forums for bigotry. You're a sick person, and no one should have to share a forum with you.

You aren't welcome back on these forums. Ever.

*Banned*

Best.Ban.Ever :cheese:

 

[Kristafon]

Once I saw an american woman on TV who was saying how terrible the new gay rights are, and, get this, compared homosexuality to GAMBLING, PROSTITUION and CRIME. She was saying how there has been a rise in these four "terrible" things.
You Bush supporters are the cause of all this, you have sent america into de-progression and ludditeism, how can you say what that woman was saying is fair? How can crime and greed be put in the same category of something which is based on LOVE?
I cant belive gay marriage is being BANNED. After all the ground that has been made with gay rights america goes and throws it all back with its old fashioned redneck/purtianchristian views. What happend to the morals that america was built on? Inequality and FREEDOM.
America is not making the world a better place in this century, it is seriously ****ing evreything up.

Anyway iv got an Al Quedia meeting to be going to.

 

[diluted]

Gotta love Republicans for their hard work at reversing decades of social progress by liberals. God bless America, indeed. :|

 

[Bad^Hat]

Anyway iv got an Al Quedia meeting to be going to.

Shit, that was today? ****... my vest is still at the dry cleaners. Yes, that vest.

 

[Wraith]

gays should be allowed to get married.

if you dont like it, you should be allowed to voice your opinion.

and everyone should be allowed to ignore that opinion.

 

[Steve]

gays should be allowed to get married.

if you dont like it, you should be allowed to voice your opinion.

and everyone should be allowed to ignore that opinion.

wraith, you sooo totally rock... but you so totally already know that.

 

[SpuD]

I'm fine with it, if one person loves another whats the problem? Now its legal to descriminate.

 

[Bad^Hat]

I'm fine with it, if one person loves another whats the problem? Now its legal to descriminate.

Yeah, they already went and outlawed necrophelia. For gods sake, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the love between two semi-consenting adults (if they put it in their will).

 

[Mechagodzilla]

It does seem a waste. I mean, you're just going to cremate or bury her anyways, right? :naughty:

 

[Bad^Hat]

Cremation, now there's something immoral and disgusting that they should outlaw. And anyone who's against it should be burnt to death :flame:

 

[Sui]

i kinda disagree with gay marrige. because marrige is a hold bond between a MAN and a WOMAN, as it states ion the vows... now to allow gay marrige would be to change these rules, and i dint think religion should be changed.

but on another note.. who wants to get married anyway? it only leads to either a divorce or getting incredibly bored. unless.... naa, i wont say it.

although one thing for gay marrige is that obviously you are only supposed to have sex within marrige, and two strict christians may think they are commiting a sin if they perfrom gay sex... hmm, i guess its a very hard desicion.

*edit* just an interesting bit of information... if two men have their sperm removed, and get one of each sperm placed in a womans egg... then get a different woman to carry the babies and give birth, then the two men would have once child each, but seeing as they wouldnt know which one is which they would just be considered to have two twins. then the baby would be theirs, and there wouldnt be a mother, as the egg donor would be annonymous and the carrier wouldnt be the biological mother.

or soemthing like that.

 

[Neutrino]

i kinda disagree with gay marrige. because marrige is a hold bond between a MAN and a WOMAN,

According to who?

as it states ion the vows...

What vows? Do every married couple use these vows?

now to allow gay marrige would be to change these rules, and i dint think religion should be changed.

How does it change religion? Do you think two atheists getting married changes religion?

but on another note.. who wants to get married anyway?

A majority of the population, including me.

although one thing for gay marrige is that obviously you are only supposed to have sex within marrige, and two strict christians may think they are commiting a sin if they perfrom gay sex... hmm, i guess its a very hard desicion.

What? I'm really not sure what you're saying here?

You think allowing gay marriage woud force two conservative christians to have gay sex? Huh?

 

[Sui]

er... those wre just my light veiws on the subject... i didnt really mean anything serious :/ i wasnt really expecting to get pounded with agressive counter arguments ;(

just leave me alone!

*runs off and sulks in a corner*

 

[Neutrino]

er... those wre just my light veiws on the subject... i didnt really mean anything serious :/ i wasnt really expecting to get pounded with agressive counter arguments ;(

just leave me alone!

*runs off and sulks in a corner*

Heh, sorry.

I never know how serious people are so sorry if I sounded a bit over zelous in my response.

 

[MadHatter]

DoctorGordon, we simply do not have a spot on these forums for bigotry. You're a sick person, and no one should have to share a forum with you.

You aren't welcome back on these forums. Ever.

*Banned*

Hey, wait, I don't agree with that. Don't ban him. He may be a bigot about certain things, but as long as he doesn't directly or personally impose his beliefs on others he's entitled to his own opinions.

 

[Neutrino]

Hey, wait, I don't agree with that. Don't ban him. He may be a bigot about certain things, but as long as he doesn't directly or personally impose his beliefs on others he's entitled to his own opinions.

I would tend to agree. Banning him for flaming or insulting others is one thing, but he did clearly state that it was only an emotion based opinion that he would not act on. I don't personally blame him for that. His one comment about burning gays was out of line, though he did retract it. I don't know really.

However, I think that brings up an interesting point about racism/bigotry in the forum and the rules regarding it. One has to realize that we don't all have free speech here. In the US you can be as verbally racist as you want and it is your right. But that is not so in the forum. But what exactly is racism and bigotry and where do you draw the lines? It's pretty obvious when we speak of minorities such as Blacks. No one would be allowed to say something like blacks are a disease and they are destroying society. Yet I've heard that exact thing said about gays from atleast a couple people. Now I'm not calling for their bans, but I think it's just an interesting example of the current social climate we live in. It's undergoing some major shifts right now, but I imagine in another 10 to 20 years such comments will be regarded with the same disdain as they are regarded now if they were said about black people.

It's strange how history just repeats itself over and over again.

Just something I was thinking about today.

 

[Steve]

It's strange how history just repeats itself over and over again.

well, hopefully it'll keep that pattern up, and in the future a majority of the people will be able to respect the sexual preferences of others as they now respect people of different races and (to some extent) religions and cultures

 

[Mechagodzilla]

History might keep repeating itself, but we're running out of minorities.
After gays are fully allowed, there will only be a few groups left.
Call me an optimist, but I say it'll eventually occur that everything harmless will be allowed.

Either that, or we get a theocracy. Yay!

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Dr Freeman, it seems like you have changed. You're beginning to realise the problem homosexuals face; acceptance. A child may or may not be bullied for having gay parents, but it is only caused by people with your previous attitude.

hmm.. here i was ready to jump on u and i write my post.. then go back to quote someone else and re-read and realized u mistakenly took me for another forum member..

anyway i am gonna take the sign of Neutrino and others not argueing about my point that gay couples and adoption is something society will consider in the future.
right now society generally needs to accept gays and treat them equally before we get into more complicated issues such as adoption.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

anyway i am gonna take the sign of Neutrino and others not argueing about my point that gay couples and adoption is something society will consider in the future.
right now society generally needs to accept gays and treat them equally before we get into more complicated issues such as adoption.

Uh, allowing gays to adopt is equal treatment.

It all but definitely will happen in the future though, but why hold progress back?
For some people, there could be a dramatic difference between getting a child now and getting one in five, ten or however many years.

 

[Neutrino]

anyway i am gonna take the sign of Neutrino and others not argueing about my point that gay couples and adoption is something society will consider in the future.
right now society generally needs to accept gays and treat them equally before we get into more complicated issues such as adoption.

Hmm, that's an interesting statement. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but it just made me think.

Is adoption really a more complicated issue? You say we should accept gays before getting into adoption, but in fact society is doing exactly the opposite. I would actually tend to agree that adoption is a more important issue than marriage. We should certainly always put children first.

But what is happening in our society? Instead, gays adopting is perfectly legal and acceptable while gay marriage produces a huge outcry against it. Something is wrong with that and it's not the fact gays can adopt. After all if you prevent gays from adopting you have to prevent single parents from adopting too.