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The 15 finalists for Bush in 30 Seconds are posted below. The winning commercial will be announced at an event on January 12th at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City. It will be shown on television during the 2004 campaigning. You can buy tickets online now.

The finalists are also being sent out to our panel of celebrity judges which includes Michael Moore, Donna Brazile, Jack Black, Janeane Garofalo, Margaret Cho and Gus Van Sant. These judges will determine which ad wins the contest overall.

Nominees

Some of them are pretty funny such as the "WHAT ARE WE TEACHING OUR CHILDREN?" and the "BUSH'S REPAIR SHOP" ads. Some are them are really gonna have Bush embarrassed to the 13th circle such as "HUMAN COST OF WAR" and "POLYGRAPH". For the record, the Democrats aren't sponsoring this, it is completely independent. This is probably the first time such an effort has ever been conceived and done.
 
My dad showed me these earlier today. I hate Bush, so this brought a warm feeling to the hole where my heart would be if I had one :)
 
-"Imagine" : Omfg , I just saw the perfect movie omfg , Im in love. Its like a tinfoil conspiracy wrapped into a 30 second commercial. Its called "Imagine"


Is it too much to ask for the site to use popup windows. I keep xing out of their propaganda [censored]. Hey but in MY COUNTRY... ha.

That "Americans are dying for the truth" one is a definiet keeper (read: Easy way to get bush reelected.)



-Hey guys , 8,000 civilians were slaughtered in Iraq , but we wont specify by whom or when , ambiguous is good. (Im sorry I cant stop tearing these apart , but I swear to you Ill post up if I agree with one too)

-"Wake up America" isnt totally crazy , and with this batch of movies , thats good.

-"Desktop" had catchy music and no facts , but damn did I like the music

-"Army of One" presented good facts about some things going on in the military , but things that happen during time of war regardless. But then it mucked it all up by throwing in a 'omg look , this dude is injured an hemoraging' clip.

-2 Corporation Tin Hat movies here , no valid points

-"Bushes Repair Shop" Some good points for a political ad , and there was alot of destruction of a car in a body shop too , which is always cool to see. Not a bad politcal ad , a little on the agressive side but hey.

-NOTE: It takes like 8 minutes to edit or post anything :-/

Quoted from another forum I posted it on , PS gg 10 char limit.
 
Can anyone point to anything George W. Bush has done wrong? I mean, the economy is looking pretty nice from what I've heard.

As for the war in Iraq, those videos really seem to miss out the part where they explain why Saddam Hussein being in charge was a good thing.

As for unemployment, I remember reading an article saying Unemployment was as low as it was when Bush came into power.
 
Golly, maybe I will move to Canada, because Bush is so evil. Atleast in Canada I will never have to worry about war, since we can all tuck our tails between our legs and hide in our igloos while we cook up some Canadian Bacon and pretend that it's not a slice of ham.


Trashtalk our president? Then you are not welcome in my country.
 
Feath, actually, the economy has turned preety shitty since bush took office (although 9-11 certainly can take alot of the blaim for that). And unemployment is at the highest it's been since the depression. Not to mention the nationaly defecit is at an all time high as well....
i can go on and on, bush has done quite a few things that are screwing us over.
 
chu said:
Golly, maybe I will move to Canada, because Bush is so evil. Atleast in Canada I will never have to worry about war, since we can all tuck our tails between our legs and hide in our igloos while we cook up some Canadian Bacon and pretend that it's not a slice of ham.


Trashtalk our president? Then you are not welcome in my country.
Wow, way to insult Canada for no reason. And people can trashtalk the President all they want. It's part of the First Amendment, do you have some problem with the Constitution? Not very 'patriotic' is it? Oh, and you have your own country? Didn't think so, political views have no effect on how welcome someone is in OUR country.
 
chu said:
Golly, maybe I will move to Canada, because Bush is so evil. Atleast in Canada I will never have to worry about war, since we can all tuck our tails between our legs and hide in our igloos while we cook up some Canadian Bacon and pretend that it's not a slice of ham.


Trashtalk our president? Then you are not welcome in my country.

Do you even know how our government was created in the first place? What's that? You do? Okay, well then you'd be knowing the real "American Way." If you got a problem with the man in charge, you tell all your friends how much you hate him and why, then you go do something about it. So if your pseudo-patriotic ass can't deal with the fact that the people have a right to hate their president, you can tuck your tail and go live in Canada yourself, cuz no one else gives a hoot ;)

edit: In other news, I have finally been bumped from Scanner to Manhack. Wahoo! :afro:
 
Those videos are works of beautiful stunning honest political art.

If none of you didn't get a hidden message in those videos I'll tell it all to you now. The people of the United States of America have grounds for impeachment. If Bush went to war under false pretenses he can be impeached.

"We must find these weapons of mass destruction"
war starts
"We must free the children of Iraq"
war ends
"We must rebuild Iraq, but first I gotta go do something and I don't know what it is"

me: "uh....."

TRIVIA: Who said: "If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves. "
 
chu said:
Trashtalk our president? Then you are not welcome in my country.
Guess the term "freedom of speech" doesnt mean anything to you?

At any rate, fun stuff :)
 
Also, i think this is pretty wierd... In the US you can burn the US flag on the street, nothing will happend, you won't get a ticker or get thrown in jail, just maybe get beat up by some patriotic bastard, here in Finland if someone Burns our flag in public he gets thrown into jail for a month.
 
actually i'm pretty sure bush signed a law making flag burning illegal (but i'm not totally sure of this so don't hold me to it). Its pretty pointless eitherway, considering the exportation of american jobs that damn flag was probably made in china like everything else. Want some good facts on bush? Go here http://www.bushrecall.org (not sponsered by any political candidate) or try http://www.antiwar.com (don't know about this one, its just good for some foreign policy and iraq news that you won't always hear on TV).
Some people may say GWB has done a good job as president, but I don't agree. Of course its all a matter of opinion but i'll quote bushrecall.org:

When President Bush took office there was a $127 billion surplus, and now we are left with a deficit that is expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year.

George W. Bush’s environmental policy opens up national forests for commercial logging and pushes for domestic oil exploration in protected areas. His economic policy includes tax breaks for corporations who move their operations overseas. Meanwhile, drug and insurance companies were the primary beneficiaries of the 2004 Medicare bill, instead of our nation's seniors. And in Iraq, Vice President Dick Cheney's old corporation, Halliburton, has been awarded an exclusive contract to help rebuild infrastructure.

The past two years have been a binge of tax cuts for the nation's millionaires and billionaires while job losses bring back memories of the Herbert Hoover administration. There are nearly nine million Americans without jobs and under the Bush administration, more than three million jobs have disappeared.

Where to begin? Perhaps with the promises of “No Child Left Behind,” the president’s AIDS initiative in Africa or his plans to expand AmeriCorps, all of which were promptly under funded, or maybe with his promise to clean up carbon monoxide poisoning. Or maybe even his promises to cut taxes while keeping a big surplus in the federal budget. So many broken promises, it's hard to know where to begin

But this is what i base my opinion of this administration on.
 
You could add www.whatreallyhappened.com to that too Innervision 961

Btw, MaxiKana, are you sure about that fact? I never heard about such thing. Highly offensive I'll admit but illegal??
 
chu said:
Trashtalk our president? Then you are not welcome in my country.

Uh, what.

How is it up to you to make the decision whether I go into your country or not.
 
Feath said:
I stand corrected.

Whoops.


You shouldnt , he didnt prove anything. The stock market is back above 10k. Bush inherited a bad economy , and it took a dive yes. He may have been partly responsible. But the economy is now back like a MFer.

Innervision961 said:
actually i'm pretty sure bush signed a law making flag burning illegal (but i'm not totally sure of this so don't hold me to it). Its pretty pointless eitherway, considering the exportation of american jobs that damn flag was probably made in china like everything else. Want some good facts on bush? Go here http://www.bushrecall.org (not sponsered by any political candidate) or try http://www.antiwar.com (don't know about this one, its just good for some foreign policy and iraq news that you won't always hear on TV).
Some people may say GWB has done a good job as president, but I don't agree. Of course its all a matter of opinion but i'll quote bushrecall.org:



But this is what i base my opinion of this administration on.


Dax said:
You could add www.whatreallyhappened.com to that too Innervision 961

Btw, MaxiKana, are you sure about that fact? I never heard about such thing. Highly offensive I'll admit but illegal??

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:tinhat:
 
nw909 said:
Uh, what.

How is it up to you to make the decision whether I go into your country or not.

Because I know magic.


*Shazam*


/me disappears
 
chu said:
Golly, maybe I will move to Canada, because Bush is so evil. Atleast in Canada I will never have to worry about war, since we can all tuck our tails between our legs and hide in our igloos while we cook up some Canadian Bacon and pretend that it's not a slice of ham.


Trashtalk our president? Then you are not welcome in my country.

Well technically Canada was the first people to ever beat the US in a war. Hell they got in a boat in burned the white house down, along with a lot of the rest of Washington. So there :D

Personally I agree though, Bush hasn't done anything wrong. People are jumping on the band wagon of "i hate the president" just because it's the popular thing to do. Most people don't have the facts to back up any kind of arguement, they just know other people don't like him so they don't.

The truth is he has done some things wrong, but so have a lot of presidents. Though most people don't even understand what he has done right and wrong. It's like athiests who are only athiests because it's "rebelious". I have the same respect for them as bible thumping southern Baptists.

This isn't saying everyone that doesn't like Bush is a "yes man", if you can make a decent arguement for why you dislike what this administration is doing, (yes the administration makes up more then just the president) then you're just opinionated, but it's becomming a popular thing to just "hate Bush" which is just obnoxious when you don't even know the issues.
 
RandomPING said:
This isn't saying everyone that doesn't like Bush is a "yes man", if you can make a decent arguement for why you dislike what this administration is doing, (yes the administration makes up more then just the president) then you're just opinionated, but it's becomming a popular thing to just "hate Bush" which is just obnoxious when you don't even know the issues.


well ok..why don't you come out and tell us all why bush and his administration are keeping the US on the straight and narrow. then we'll rebuke and debate etc.
 
dawdler said:
Guess the term "freedom of speech" doesnt mean anything to you?

At any rate, fun stuff :)


So...Really that means he can say what he said? Basically its a pointless argument where both sides are coming from stong opinions and nothing else.
 
yep strong opinions, but there is factual evidence to support both views which i guess is why this subject is constantly being debated. And whoever said the "i hate bush bandwagon" comment i could just as easily say that your on the "i support bush bandwagon" so thats not really arguable.
And dimitripopov may I ask why you laugh at comments i made? You could just as easily show me a web site with facts that support bush and say good things about him and i could easily laugh it off as well but you have yet to do so, so.....
 
wow theres never been a group of celebrity sell outs willing to appeal to the majority of 14 year old kids who think their opinion matters about bush. i seem to recall one such convention earlier. the economy will always be bad in the liberals view. its either a "jobless" recovery/economy of a "lack of good job" recovery/economy. its pathetic, how both liberal/conservative camps will never agree on anything. the only poor thing bush has done (which isnt his fault) is the inane color code terror alert crap.

but on the other hand, there hasent been a terrorist attack in the united states since 9/11, so all those who think he isnt doing his job, he sure as hell is, and dispite your asinine ignorance he is still doing good for your country and you will benifit from it, despite your precious civil liberties being put on halt for the good of the country. whiners like michael moore fail to realize that you cant use your civil liberties if you arent around to use them. plus, who cares what jack black thinks.
 
gh0st said:
wow theres never been a group of celebrity sell outs willing to appeal to the majority of 14 year old kids who think their opinion matters about bush. i seem to recall one such convention earlier. the economy will always be bad in the liberals view. its either a "jobless" recovery/economy of a "lack of good job" recovery/economy. its pathetic, how both liberal/conservative camps will never agree on anything. the only poor thing bush has done (which isnt his fault) is the inane color code terror alert crap.

but on the other hand, there hasent been a terrorist attack in the united states since 9/11, so all those who think he isnt doing his job, he sure as hell is, and dispite your asinine ignorance he is still doing good for your country and you will benifit from it, despite your precious civil liberties being put on halt for the good of the country. whiners like michael moore fail to realize that you cant use your civil liberties if you arent around to use them. plus, who cares what jack black thinks.

But terrorist attacked like 9/11 happened in the first place, when Bush was in the office. He blamed FBI for not doing their job. What did he do about it? Went to Afghanistan and it seems accomplished not much there. Laden is still at large. But he sure went to Iraq, to liberate oil wells.
 
this thread is pretty much a dead cert for getting closed if things don't cool down.

so those vids eh, some of them were pretty good.
 
Mr.Reak said:
But terrorist attacked like 9/11 happened in the first place, when Bush was in the office. He blamed FBI for not doing their job. What did he do about it? Went to Afghanistan and it seems accomplished not much there. Laden is still at large. But he sure went to Iraq, to liberate oil wells.

it IS the fbi's fault. contrary to what many say bush does not go through each of the thousands and thousands of leads the cia and fbi get each year. i would justify going to war with iraq and the taliban for the simple fact that there have been no new terrorist attacks.

and you dont know if bin laden is still alive or not. hes definately not "at large" in the sense that he's nuking new york.
 
Mr.Reak said:
But terrorist attacked like 9/11 happened in the first place, when Bush was in the office. He blamed FBI for not doing their job. What did he do about it? Went to Afghanistan and it seems accomplished not much there. Laden is still at large. But he sure went to Iraq, to liberate oil wells.

I seem to remeber a man in office before bush. OH YEAH that was bill *PLZ INSERT HERE* boy. he sat on his ass. making billions for our country. at the expense of our military. He degraded our military to crap. we were stripping our planes and copters to make other planes and copters work. He also degenerated our intellegence gathering, which led up to 9/11. the silver tongue of bill clinton has grasped most of our people today, and still has a grip. People now bitch about the war in iraq. I never saw any one bitching about the time when clinton bombed Iraq without U.N. council. Blame the two towers falling on clintons ass. bush tried to rebuild our military but liberals wouldnt have it. Maybe if clinton would have used the nessisary funds to take care of our intellegence community none of this would have happened.
 
Yes I don’t know, but his body is not found, and in the real world, you always need to think about worst. Until USA finds his body/captures him, there is always a possibility for another terrorist attack.

As for not Bush’s fault, it will be remembered as his. I bet you, read the history books in next 25 years, Bush won’t be held as a good president.

But it is not the first time country divided between patriots and haters. This why we have freedom of speech. But still, people who say “don’t like this country, go the **** out” are pissing me off beyond the believe. Like a ****ing broken record. I have nothing against USA anymore, I just don’t like some people, who running it.
 
waedoe said:
I seem to remeber a man in office before bush. OH YEAH that was bill *PLZ INSERT HERE* boy. he sat on his ass. making billions for our country. at the expense of our military. He degraded our military to crap. we were stripping our planes and copters to make other planes and copters work. He also degenerated our intellegence gathering, which led up to 9/11. the silver tongue of bill clinton has grasped most of our people today, and still has a grip. People now bitch about the war in iraq. I never saw any one bitching about the time when clinton bombed Iraq without U.N. council. Blame the two towers falling on clintons ass. bush tried to rebuild our military but liberals wouldnt have it. Maybe if clinton would have used the nessisary funds to take care of our intellegence community none of this would have happened.

And, do I look like I really care about Clinton? You are assuming that I am liberal, just because I hate Bush?
 
yeah and ignorant ass statements like "its bushes fault", or whining about the illigitimacy of a war which your OWN CONGRESS RATIFIED. guess what, you elected them. that makes the war in iraq pretty damn legitimate.

the UN isnt my mother, and i dont have to listen to it.
 
Mr.Reak said:
As for not Bush’s fault, it will be remembered as his. I bet you, read the history books in next 25 years, Bush won’t be held as a good president.

we'll have to see about that, i think its bullshit since the majority of the country [judging by his approval rating] thinks hes doing ok.
 
gh0st said:
yeah and ignorant ass statements like "its bushes fault", or whining about the illigitimacy of a war which your OWN CONGRESS RATIFIED. guess what, you elected them. that makes the war in iraq pretty damn legitimate.

the UN isnt my mother, and i dont have to listen to it.

I didn’t elect Bush. In fact, more votes were in favor of Al Gore, but Bush still won, because of your system (and magical problems in Florida). You live in a complex world now, we are beyond Middle Ages, where people hated each other and were ready to take over the land by force. Everything you do now, affects everyone. UN is not your mother, but you are not a ruler of the world either.
 
"your" system? i see lots of you's and your's there, are you not american or something? and yes, the electoral college is a good thing - it prevents dumbasses from being elected. id much rather have an educated scholar voting than some balding florida geriatric. just my opinion.
 
Ok, below are my arguments for why I think Bush, and his administration should go. Read if you want, but
please do some research and present some evidence when you retaliate:

Tax cuts for the rich, purely a political move, and dangerous during hard economic times.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3022201.stm

Many economists, and many Democrats, have questioned the wisdom of the dividend tax cuts,
which will not take effect soon enough to influence the economy this side of an election, and will
disproportionately benefit the rich.

And no, the recession started after bush took office... (from the senate.gov, pretty reputable huh?)

http://budget.senate.gov/democratic/press/2003/fs_bushrecession073103.pdf

Recession Actually Started Two Months After President Bush Took Office: On many occasions,
the Bush administration has claimed that the recession began before it took office. The following
quotes represent just a few examples of the Bush administration's deliberate campaign to shift blame
for the weak economy away from the President and his failed tax cut policies.

Should I? Yeah i think I will... Read this first please:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/28/sotu.transcript/

Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans, this time armed by Saddam
Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day
of horror like none we have ever known.

Ummm well guess he pulled that out of his arse...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-07-13-bush-alqaeda_x.htm

U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of
delivering chemical agents. Inspectors recently turned up 16 of them, despite Iraq's recent declaration
denying their existence. Saddam Hussein has not accounted for the remaining 29,984 of these prohibited
munitions. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3135932.stm

Ok, how about some shady buisness now?

Before becoming vice-president, Cheney headed Haliburton, one the world's largest energy development
companies. Haliburton last week was in the news on allegations it may have overcharged for activities it was
hired to perform as part of the Iraq reconstruction.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Supreme Court has agreed to hear Vice President Dick Cheney's challenge to a court ruling
that would force him to disclose details of meetings between his energy policy task force and the industry.

Hmmm fishy?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3006149.stm

Not to mention the *cough* millions in overcharges to the American tax payer.

Ok thats enough for now, if you want anymore, just let me know. Now I think I've provided enough solid
factual evidence as to why I dislike this administration.
 
gh0st i'm compelled to write something in protest here. i don't normally have outbursts at people but honestly...you're a bit of a twat if you ask me. that's probably my tiredness catching up on me. i think the war was illegitimate because the 'proof' was faked. i mean you can't get more illegitimate than that. seriously though, you stay on your side of the fence and we'll stay over here and point and make faces etc. just don't toot your horn about it.

EDIT: innervision's argument seems pretty much solid. still reading through. i'm awaiting gh0st's reply *gets large tub of popcorn and gets comfy*
 
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