Day 4: The Spy Update...yes really!

[creepy_thing]

Fantastic Valve rocks.

 

[Rizzo]

But still, who will Dead ringer fool? Everyone knows spy will have it and keep shooting where they last saw him.

 

[ríomhaire]

Yes, but it will cause people to waste loads of ammo when a Spy actually does die, making it funny.

 

[TwwIX]

We are definitely getting both updates http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58658

 

[Asuka]

WTF! Holy shit Valve wins again!

 

[Jintor]

So this was more relevent a few days ago, but they're still worth a chuckle.

/EDIT Also, did anyone check the sites recently?

http://www.buildersleagueunited.com/

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[tschumann]

Dohohoho, they changed the pyro's gender back to genderless. The "she" is no longer there.

Did it say 'she' earlier?

 

[Operational]

Yes, yes, yes! New toys for the Spy! As much as I've enjoyed the class updates the Medic is the only updated class in my top 5 most played classes so it'll be nice to have new toys to play around with for a class I actually play often.

Cloak and Dagger - Really interesting. Being able to stand still and have unlimited cloak will certainly have it's uses. I've gotten used to ammo-cloak map patterns so I'm looking foward to finding new routes around the maps.

Dead Ringer - Sounds useful, I'm not sure if you can use it to cloak normally though - it's a straight out upgrade if you can. I once played a server that allowed you to drop a fake dead body while cloaked (at a cost to your cloak meter) and it was really useful. This is coming from the oppisite direction in that it's used for escapes after stabs. One things for sure Spy paranoia is going to be raised even higher

Did it say 'she' earlier?

It did

 

[Danimal]

At first I thought the Dead Ringer Ring Thing would be useless, as the person that hit you would already know you're still alive since they didn't get a point for the "kill".

Then I figured, it only means that you get chased by the person that hit you, as everyone who didn't get an assist would assume you died for real.

Though tbh the instant-cloak is probably the thing that solves that, too.

EDIT:

Holy shit, you can just run behind them ASAP and uncloak, while they hold down W and holding down fire.

LOL

THE CAMERA BEARD MUST BE A NEW HAT. IT WILL FLASH PEOPLE.

/attention whore

 

[NeoNight]

So the feign death watch thingy, will counter the backstab counter am guessing? So what will counter the counter to the counter!?!?!?!!?!

 

[Danimal]

What do you mean?

Shield explodes.
Fake body drops and spy is cloaked.

Nothing dramatic happens!

 

[okidoki]

This is great. Definitely more fun than a just sniper update.

Won't you be able to look for the kill message at the top of the screen to counter the dead-ringer? It would seem more effective in a crowd when someone is stabbed and five people turn and fire at the spy. Frantically trying to figure out if the last kill was by someone nearby. Maybe a fake kill message? It would show a weapon that the class doesn't carry, like it would show a pyro's name killing with a rocket so you can tell if it's fake, but not immediately. "Wait, that pyro doesn't have a ro-*stab*".

Will these unlockables require achievements still? I thought they were re-evaluating the achievement->unlockable system.

 

[NeoNight]

Right the shield counters the back stab, then the spy is cloaked. If he is cloaked he can wait for his knife to recharge then stab again! What will the counter be for him re-stabbing!

 

[Danimal]

Nothing. That's the point.

LOL

 

[Nibwoddle]

This is the most awesome thing Valve has ever done. EVER

 

[Shakermaker]

Right the shield counters the back stab, then the spy is cloaked. If he is cloaked he can wait for his knife to recharge then stab again! What will the counter be for him re-stabbing!

Run around like a fool and stab thin air with your machete.

Kudo +1 for Valve btw. No one saw this one coming.

 

[Eejit]

Kudo +1 for Valve btw. No one saw this one coming.

Quite a lot of people did.

 

[the.v.dog]

I thought those other gadgets could be for real. Until I saw the Baccarat Detector.
Funny stuff anyway.

I'd rather have the crab walking kit.

So are these watches replacements for the one we already have? So we'd have 3 choices of watches for that one slot?

Yup. How sweet is that?

 

[Rizzo]

I played some spy yesterday. It was fun as hell. Never really played spy before.

 

[Barnz]

Did it say 'she' earlier?

It was originally "he".

 

[Omnomnick]

Wow, this is a big pack! Cool

 

[Sulkdodds]

I wonder if MANN CO is owned by RED or BLU?

 

[Sheepo]

Run around like a fool and stab thin air with your machete.

Kudo +1 for Valve btw. No one saw this one coming.

I've been anticipating this since the scout update.

 

[jimbo118]

The sniper still has 1 upgrade to go right? To replace his machete?

 

[Jintor]

I wonder if MANN CO is owned by RED or BLU?

Can't you read? It's owned by SAXTON HALE

 

[Hectic Glenn]

The sniper still has 1 upgrade to go right? To replace his machete?

Yeah, because the actual update won't be coming till Thursday I believe, that leaves 4 more days of possible other others.

1 sniper unlock, possibly 2 other spy unlocks, hats, meet the pyro (according to AciD!).

 

[ríomhaire]

I wonder if MANN CO is owned by RED or BLU?

It's owned by TF2 Industries, the same people the Engineer's tools are licenced from (read the manual on Steam).

 

[Sheepo]

Yeah, because the actual update won't be coming till Thursday I believe, that leaves 4 more days of possible other others.

1 sniper unlock, possibly 2 other spy unlocks, hats, meet the pyro (according to AciD!).

Yeah, just check the character weapon selection guide in the game and you can see. The Spy is to have a replacement for his gun and knife as well. I was just playing thursday and noticed that the third slot was "invisibility watch" and was like "Oh wow, that's a pretty important revelation, I must point it out!" but Valve beat me to it. And the engineer is only to have his wrench, shotgun, and pistol replaced.

 

[ríomhaire]

Yes, but the wrench replacement could change the building set too.

 

[Sheepo]

Your mom could be a building set.

 

[Jintor]

You could be disguising as me every bloody time you try, sheepo! D:

 

[Sheepo]

I'm pretty sure you were HACKING!

 

[jimbo118]

Your mom could be a building set.

I lol'd for some reason.

Also new hats? wat.

 

[Darkside55]

WE ARE THE SPIES OF LONG AGO

In ages past, we did not possess the technology to cloak ourselves. Instead, along with our ability to disguise we mastered the art of feigning death. We learned to still our breathing and all but stop our heartbeats, that the enemy might pass us by as 'just another dead body,' or even to be fooled into thinking they'd killed us. This was our greatest ability, far beyond even that of disguise, for those spies who truly mastered the art of feigning death could infiltrate the enemy completely undetected, complete their missions, and escape unscathed.

The spy of today relies more on gadgets than ability to deceive the enemy. We, the spies of long ago, felt slighted that the modern spy lacked the ability to feign death. This "Dead Ringer" watch is no match for the original feign death, for it cannot be used on command, only when the spy is in danger of death...but we find it acceptable. With this, the spy of Team Fortress 2 can finally be called a real spy, for he now possesses the ability to feign death, the one thing he was truly lacking, the glaring oversight that excluded him from being a true master of espionage.





We also feel that maybe he should still get a tranquilizer gun.


Or some kind of hallucinogen weapon. Those are always fun.

SO SAY THE SPIES OF LONG AGO

 

[ríomhaire]

I was waiting for Darkside to come back, because I thought he's be extremely funny. He got a smile out of me, but I was expecting some sort of pants-exploding excitement and talking about how he was going to kill everyone now. Oh well.

 

[Darkside55]

I was expecting some sort of pants-exploding excitement and talking about how he was going to kill everyone now.

The spies of long ago do not need to state the obvious.

 

[Sheepo]

I chuckled.

I had gotten pretty good at feigning death just before I stopped playing TFC, the last time I played I was awful again though.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Great scott! A ghostly appearance. This is an omen, though whether it speaks good or ill I couldn't venture.

Can't you read? It's owned by SAXTON HALE

But who pulls his strings?

It's owned by TF2 Industries, the same people the Engineer's tools are licenced from (read the manual on Steam).

Are they independent, though? The 'storyline' (heh) dictates everything on the planet is owned either by RED or BLUE, both enormous holding corporations.

 

[Darkside55]

Nobody's man enough to pull the strings of Saxton Hale.

 

[Hunter-Killer]

No one has seemed to mention the irony that Saxton Hale is Australian.

I think the unlocks are shaping up brilliantly. Now you have the choice of being a on the move Spy (standard watch), or loiter around waiting for the perfect time to go in for the kill (cloak and dagger) The Dead Ringer is a perfect counter attack to the Razerback. Be interesting to observe peoples reaction to Spies dying now, I see a rise in paranoia levels...