dumb ass Peta

It's called a balanced diet raziaar. It's not like the only vegetable I eat is carrots. I guarentee I'm not defficient in beta carotene because I have none of the symptoms. So how much do you actually need? Remeber more isn't always necessary or better.

"Who is likely to be deficient? People who limit their consumption of beta-carotene-containing vegetables could be at higher risk of developing a vitamin A deficiency. However, because beta-carotene is not an essential nutrient, true deficiencies do not occur. Nevertheless, very old persons with type 2 diabetes have shown a significant age-related decline in blood levels of carotenoids, irrespective of their dietary intake."

Err, no it doesen't.
 
ericms said:
It's called a balanced diet raziaar. It's not like the only vegetable I eat is carrots. I guarentee I'm not defficient in beta carotene because I have none of the symptoms. So how much do you actually need? Remeber more isn't always necessary or better.

"Who is likely to be deficient? People who limit their consumption of beta-carotene-containing vegetables could be at higher risk of developing a vitamin A deficiency. However, because beta-carotene is not an essential nutrient, true deficiencies do not occur. Nevertheless, very old persons with type 2 diabetes have shown a significant age-related decline in blood levels of carotenoids, irrespective of their dietary intake."

Err, no it doesen't.


You know, mister almighty and immune Ericms the great.

If you're so amazingly immune..you shouldn't be sitting here on a messageboard posting, you should be walking into a lab and giving scientists a sample of your amazing jesus blood and let them analyze it, if true (hah), and find that you are in fact immune to disease and then spread the word and make a worldwide movement.

But wait..no...you can't, because then they'll actually test your statement of "i'm immune" by watching you get sick after they expose you to something, and oh shit where are my nuts 'n berries now.
 
Homless Snark said:
You know, mister almighty and immune Ericms the great.

If you're so amazingly immune..you shouldn't be sitting here on a messageboard posting, you should be walking into a lab and giving scientists a sample of your amazing jesus blood and let them analyze it, if true (hah), and find that you are in fact immune to disease and then spread the word and make a worldwide movement.

But wait..no...you can't, because then they'll actually test your statement of "i'm immune" by watching you get sick after they expose you to something, and oh shit where are my nuts 'n berries now.

lol @ jesus blood
 
Hi homeless snark. Nope, my raw body cannot get sick, sorry. It's too freakin sweet for those doctors machines. Matter of fact I have to post on message boards cause your cooked eyes would ex-plode looking at something so healthy :D.
 
ericms said:
Hi homeless snark. Nope, my raw body cannot get sick, sorry. It's too freakin sweet for those doctors machines. Matter of fact I have to post on message boards cause your cooked eyes would ex-plode looking at something so healthy :D.

Best. Justification. Ever.
 
No really! I'm tired of arguing. I guess you'll just have to see for yourself.

I am indeed immune to all illness. Now why do I have to prove it to you? Prove it to yourself by following and reading about the raw-vegan diet. You'll find yourself immune just as I am, no need for words.
 
were on the internet you tard you cant verify anything. and frankly claiming your immune to disease is ridiculous. no one is immune to everything.
 
ur a wacko no matter what you eat you cant be immun of all ilnnesses
 
sigh ... some of you people are so stuck in your idiotic ways that you cant see beyond the superficial ..you deserve everything you get for willingfully ignoring facts ..stuff your face full of pesticides anti biotics growth hormones and relish in the fact that you're invincible


it's topics like these that gives me little confidence we'll make it to the next century
 
gh0st said:
were on the internet you tard you cant verify anything. and frankly claiming your immune to disease is ridiculous. no one is immune to everything.

..and I just said you'll have to prove it to yourself. Having trouble reading?

No wonder you don't believe me. You think "everything" is disease. What a sad, sad life you have.
 
Spicy Tuna said:
go make Vagina fixing movies stern

Why no capital letter at the start of the sentence?
Why give "vagina" a capital letter for no reason?
Why no capital letter for a proper noun, the name "CptStern" shorted to "Stern"?
Why no full stop?

And what the **** is a vagina fixing movie?
 
I admitt that Im really lonely right now with all my friends 15000km away.
 
CptStern said:
sigh ... some of you people are so stuck in your idiotic ways that you cant see beyond the superficial ..you deserve everything you get for willingfully ignoring facts ..stuff your face full of pesticides anti biotics growth hormones and relish in the fact that you're invincible


it's topics like these that gives me little confidence we'll make it to the next century


Wait a second Stern. Are you telling us you support the fact that he is immune to every form of virus, disease, and sickness the world has to offer? Without any immunizations or vaccines of any sorts?
 
ericms said:
I am indeed immune to all illness. Now why do I have to prove it to you? Prove it to yourself by following and reading about the raw-vegan diet. You'll find yourself immune just as I am, no need for words.

So AIDS, MRSA and bird flu couldn't infect you?

terminator.jpg
 
luck and sexual magnetism are viruses, jsut that they have a positive effect. are you saying you've never had any of either of those?

(btw, red dwarf makes the most sense out of anything in the universe)
 
Raziaar said:
Wait a second Stern. Are you telling us you support the fact that he is immune to every form of virus, disease, and sickness the world has to offer? Without any immunizations or vaccines of any sorts?

I refuse to partake in this discussion, I've said my piece
 
Que-Ever said:
luck and sexual magnetism are viruses, jsut that they have a positive effect. are you saying you've never had any of either of those?

Uhh... Do you even know what viruses are?
 
TheSomeone said:
Uhh... Do you even know what viruses are?
shh, yes I do. Apparently my obscure reference was more obscure than I thought. TO set things straight, I wasn't being totally serious :P
 
Que-Ever said:
shh, yes I do. Apparently my obscure reference was more obscure than I thought. TO set things straight, I wasn't being totally serious :P

:D, okay.
 
Here are some studies that are excerpted from the book Nature's First Law: The Raw-Food Diet.

1. "Lewis E. Cook Jr. and Junko Yasui recounted a powerful study in their book Goldot. The experiment involved three groups of rats.

The first group of rats were fed, from birth, diets of raw fruits, vegetables, nuts, and whole grains. They grew into completely healthy specimens and never suffered from any diseases. They grew rapidly, never grew fat, reproduced with vigor and enthusiasm, and had healthy offspring. They were always playful and affectionate. Upon reaching an age equivalent to 80 humans years they were put to death and autopsied. All their organs, glands, and tissues appeared in perfect condition without any signs of aging or degeneration.

The second group of rats were fed, from birth, diets of cooked foods including: white bread, meat, milk, salt, soda, candy, cakes, vitamins, medicines, etc. These rats became fat and were afflicted by the very same diseases afflicting present-day society, including: colds, fevers, pneumonia, poor eyesight, cataracts, heart disease, arthritis, cancer, etc. During the life-cycle of the second group, the rats exhibited vicous, nervous, and self-destructive behavior. They had to be seperated to keep them from killing each other. Their offspring were consistently ill and displayed the same behavioral characteristics as their parents. Most of the second group died prematurely from diseases or various epidemics which swept through the colony. Autopsies performed on this group revealed extensive degeneration in all the organs, glands, and tissues of their bodies.

The third group of rats were fed a diet identical to the second group until they reached an equivalent human age of 40 years. They displayed the same symptoms of ill-health and self-destructive behavior as the second group. At the end of this time period, the rats were placed on a strict water fast for several days. Then they were fed the raw diet of the first group. This diet was alternated with periods of fasting. Within one month, their health and behavioral patterns changed dramatically. They became affectionate, playful, and never became ill. Autopsies performed after the equivalent of 80 humans years indicated this group had reversed its degenerative tissue damage."

2. "In India, Sir Robert McCarrison fed monkeys their usual diet, but in cooked form. All the monkeys developed severe intestinal problems. The autopsies revealed gastric and intestinal ulcers. Based on subsequent experiments with rats and research on the Hunza peoples (generally considered the healthiest population in the world), McCarrison concluded a natural diet and healthy bodily activity is "mankind's main defense against degenrative diseases; a bulkwark, too, against those of infectious origin."

3. "A study appeared in the British Medical Journal (Vol. 14, No. 10) in 1960 which clearly exposed the dangers of pasteurization. The Study was entitled "The Effect of Heat Treatment on the Nutritive Value of Milk for the Young Calf: The Effect of Ultra-High Temperature Treatment and of Pasteurization." It entailed feeding calves their mother's milk after it had been cooked. The calves fed on pasteurized milk died before maturity in nine out of ten cases. Conclusion: Cooked milk is poison even for the animal the milk was designed for."

4. "In Switzerland, O. Stiner fed guinea pigs their usual diet but in cooked form. His animals succumbed to numerous diseases including: anemia, scurvy, gioter, dental caries, glandular degeneration, and (when ten cc of pasteurized milk was added to their diet) arthritis."

5. "Dr. Paul Kochakoff, at the Institute of Clinical Chemistry in Lausanne, Switzerland in 1930, reported that the consumption of raw plant foods does not change the chemical makeup of the blood. However, when cooked food is consumed, augmentation of white blood cells occurs. Translation: the humans body fights cooked food like a disease or, perhaps the white blood cells are actually mutagenic products of cooked food."
 
ericms said:
The second group of rats were fed, from birth, diets of cooked foods including: white bread, meat, milk, salt, soda, candy, cakes, vitamins, medicines, etc. These rats became fat and were afflicted by the very same diseases afflicting present-day society, including: colds, fevers, pneumonia, poor eyesight, cataracts, heart disease, arthritis, cancer, etc. During the life-cycle of the second group, the rats exhibited vicous, nervous, and self-destructive behavior. They had to be seperated to keep them from killing each other. Their offspring were consistently ill and displayed the same behavioral characteristics as their parents. Most of the second group died prematurely from diseases or various epidemics which swept through the colony. Autopsies performed on this group revealed extensive degeneration in all the organs, glands, and tissues of their bodies.


Oh for the love of god. Of course just eating bread, meat, milk, salt, soda, candy, cakes, vitamins, medicines will make you so you cant last so long. You'd have to be an idiot to just eat those things.


Really man, I think you're a nut only in the fact that you think you're invincible and will live forever on your diet. I respect that you can eat and maintain a healthy diet, but I dont for one minute believe, that you are impervious as you so claim, to any bad health.
 
Cancer and diseases have existed althroughout history, even before we became civilised into societies.
The reasons we see increased rate of cancers is:
-People are living longer and hence are being affected by cancers (the longer you live, the more chance you have of being a cancer victim, and especially susceptible in old age)
-We are able to diagnose cancer better, so obviously this leads to an increased rate
-People just generally being unhealthy in general. As Razaair mentioned, you'd be a fool to exclusively live off those things. But they can be part of a normal balanced diet. Too much of anything is bad for you. Too much water, too much oxygen, too much fruit, too much meat is bad for you.

We have become much better in diagnosing and treating diseases, we outlive our wild caveman grandfathers significantly. Diseases have been around since the dawn of time, and wild animals are susceptible just as anyone else.

I think the thing is, noone is much intested on making reports about wild animals, so as they die quietly in the countryside, these animal's screams go unheard by anyone. Captive animals actually live longer if I recall.
 
Que-Ever said:
shh, yes I do. Apparently my obscure reference was more obscure than I thought. TO set things straight, I wasn't being totally serious :P

I got your obscure reference :P

Can i have a cookie?

(Made from dough, made from plant material, which is baked, friend, kneaded etc. )
 
kirovman said:
I think the thing is, noone is much intested on making reports about wild animals, so as they die quietly in the countryside, these animal's screams go unheard by anyone. Captive animals actually live longer if I recall.

a gilded cage is still a cage

animals live shorter lives in captivity ...just ask anyone at a marine park ..but yes they dont have to worry about famine, drought, disease, poachers etc, so in thta sense the risks are a lot lower


what you personally rather have? a short life of freedom or a long life living in captivity?
 
How do you feel about pets, stern?
 
I've had several ..all adopted. My curent dog was rescued from a puppy mill


but I suppose you'll try to say that I own my dog, that he's property
 
CptStern said:
I've had several ..all adopted. My curent dog was rescued from a puppy mill


but I suppose you'll try to say that I own my dog, that he's property

No. I was half expecting you to speak out against pet ownership.
 
you'd like to paint me with the extremist brush but that's just not true. I dont even discuss animals rights with most people because much like you when I mention the words "animal rights" they cant seem to get past 4 little letters: p e t a
 
I don't believe wild animals are sick. Like I said before I think it's a matter of our bodies being so ****ed up that it doesen't even know how to react to anything natural anymore. We're basically filled with synthetic pills and mutagenic cells. Disease did spawn from cooked food. Notice how the first group of rats didn't get diseased at all throught their life. Since the second group got sick from cooked foods and medications then OBVIOUSLY it comes from there. If the rat were an "omnivore" then the first group should've gotten sick wouldn't you think?

I think domesticating an animal is ridicoulous if you plan on feeding it a diet it was never meant to eat. Feed a cat raw meat and you'll have a healthy cat. Feed it that retarded commercial **** and yes, it will get sick and probably die because of some disease.
 
Funny that the commercialized **** I've been feeding my pets for years has never resulted in any kind of illness, let alone death.

Although I guess you and your bizarro thinking could argue that they'd be immortal if they had a raw diet.
 
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