Inauguration '05

[Icarusintel]

Anyone going to the inauguration on the 20th? Should be a blast. Look for me in the parade somewhere in the First Battalion of the VMI marching section. We're gonna look real snazzy in our overcoat with full dyke and arms.

 

[Death.Trap]

What are you talking about? I'm confuzzled.

 

[willyd]

I assume hes talking about when president W is sworn into office.

 

[Steve]

Never understood inaugurations for incumbent Presidents...I mean, seriously...were they ever sworn OUT?

 

[GiaOmerta]

Never understood inaugurations for incumbent Presidents...I mean, seriously...were they ever sworn OUT?

True... true. Tradiation I suppose.

 

[Neutrino]

I dearly wish I could somehow get there to see it....

...so I could join these people:

http://www.turnyourbackonbush.org/

Let's start from the start: Inauguration Day.

On January 20th, 2005, we're calling for a new kind of action. The Bush administration has been successful at keeping protesters away from major events in the last few years by closing off areas around events and using questionable legal strategies to outlaw public dissent. We can use these obstacles to develop new tactics. On Inauguration day, we don't need banners, we don't need signs, we just need people.

We're calling on people to attend inauguration as they are: members of the public. Once through security and at the procession, at a given signal, we'll all turn our backs on Bush. A simple, clear and coherent message.

 

[GiaOmerta]

I'll be joining this group if I attend.

www.rooftopsnipers.org/inauguration/shootprotesters.html

We've got a message ourselves.

 

[seinfeldrules]

And then 62,028,194 people can show up and cheer Bush! Yahhh!!!

Anyways, I agree with steve, a second inaguration is stupid.

 

[Jmechy]

I bet he'll wimp out like he did last time... Poor huy, his approval ratings are so low and so many people HATE him, i wouldn't blame him for just staying home...

 

[Raziaar]

At least we can all agree on something. No need for a second one.

Could spend that money on relief efforts.

 

[seinfeldrules]

so many people HATE him, i wouldn't blame him for just staying home...

But so many more people love him. Hence he won both the election and popular vote :thumbs:

62,028,194

 

[Murray_H]

But so many more people love him. Hence he won both the election and popular vote :thumbs:

62,028,194

But most of the voters were dead pets...oh wait, that was

*harps*

the siiiimmmmpppsons

*cut to me writing on a blackboard*

I will not abuse toddlers

*cut to us all jumping on the sofa*

the sofa turns into a dinosaur and kills us.

Fin.

 

[Raziaar]

But most of the voters were dead pets...oh wait, that was

*harps*

the siiiimmmmpppsons

*cut to me writing on a blackboard*

I will not abuse toddlers

*cut to us all jumping on the sofa*

the sofa turns into a dinosaur and kills us.

Fin.

Heh, what's that Fin mean anyways? It was in family guy, when Diane made her movie as a teenager.

 

[seinfeldrules]

But most of the voters were dead pets...oh wait, that was

*harps*

the siiiimmmmpppsons

*cut to me writing on a blackboard*

I will not abuse toddlers

*cut to us all jumping on the sofa*

the sofa turns into a dinosaur and kills us.

Fin.

Sit back.

Relax.

Take 3 deep breaths.

Begin to fade away.

Imagine 62,028,194 people chanting "Four more years! Four more years!"

Close eyes.

Smile.

 

[CptStern]

But most of the voters were dead pets...oh wait, that was

*harps*

the siiiimmmmpppsons

*cut to me writing on a blackboard*

I will not abuse toddlers

*cut to us all jumping on the sofa*

the sofa turns into a dinosaur and kills us.

Fin.

lol! I think I saw that episode :E



on topic: better hope bush is wired or has cue cards ...no telling what he's libel to say

 

[Murray_H]

Heh, what's that Fin mean anyways? It was in family guy, when Diane made her movie as a teenager.

Not a literal translation, but a more arty way of saying 'the end'

 

[CptStern]

Heh, what's that Fin mean anyways?.

remind me never to engage you in a debate again ........

 

[nicknitro]

I dearly wish I could somehow get there to see it....

...so I could join these people:

http://www.turnyourbackonbush.org/

how immature is that.. some people need to grow up.

 

[Murray_H]

how immature is that.. some people need to grow up.

Well it's better than "Bush Bush! Show Mr. President your pubic afro! :afro:"

That's the first and probably the last time I will use the afro man

 

[Neutrino]

how immature is that.. some people need to grow up.

Please explain why it is immature. People are protesting in a nonviolent fashion that will display a very clear message.

Or is protesting now considered "unamerican"?

 

[Raziaar]

Please explain why it is immature. People are protesting in a nonviolent fashion that will display a very clear message.

Or is protesting now considered "unamerican"?

A message we're all already very aware of, that they don't like bush, have their panties in a bunch over losing the election? I think they should do all they want to, its not going to change anything, because its only going to affect those people who don't like bush to begin with.

Is the news media going to start lying when it happens?

"Oh, this is big indeed <insertnamehere> These are former supporters of bush, who have turned their back on him!"

 

[Neutrino]

A message we're all already very aware of, that they don't like bush, have their panties in a bunch over losing the election? I think they should do all they want to, its not going to change anything, because its only going to affect those people who don't like bush to begin with.

Is the news media going to start lying when it happens?

"Oh, this is big indeed <insertnamehere> These are former supporters of bush, who have turned their back on him!"

So you're saying that all protests are pointless then?

 

[nicknitro]

Please explain why it is immature. People are protesting in a nonviolent fashion that will display a very clear message.

Or is protesting now considered "unamerican"?

going to the innaguration and turning your back.. great protest.. all it is doing is disrespecting bush, nothing more.

 

[Neutrino]

going to the innaguration and turning your back.. great protest.. all it is doing is disrespecting bush, nothing more.

Turning one's back is a wildly understood sign of protest. It's an efficient yet peaceful way of stating one's position.

Disrespecting Bush? Oh no, heaven forbid.

 

[nicknitro]

Turning one's back is a wildly understood sign of protest. It's an efficient yet peaceful way of stating one's position.

Disrespecting Bush? Oh no, heaven forbid.

Hes the president.. like him or not at least stick behind him and give him some respect.. I guess the liberals are just "sore losers"

 

[Raziaar]

So you're saying that all protests are pointless then?

No. This type of protest is though

 

[Murray_H]

Hes the president.. like him or not at least stick behind him and give him some respect.. I guess the liberals are just "sore losers"

I don't get it, why the heck should you have to put up with someone you didn't vote for and don't want in office?

 

[Neutrino]

Hes the president.. like him or not at least stick behind him and give him some respect.. I guess the liberals are just "sore losers"

Sorry, but when a person stands for everything I'm against politically I'm not going to "stick behind him and give him some respect." I wouldn't expect anyone else to do so, on either side of the fence.

Sore losers? Think whatever you want, but what exactly do you expect? You expect people to just give up everything they believe in because their candidate lost an election? That would be ridiculous.

No. This type of protest is though

How is it different?

 

[Raziaar]

How is it different?

I would understand if they were protesting wrongful imprisonment of those people the military has no evidence on, or the continued war in iraq, but no... they are only protesting the election of a president who has rightfully won the election.

They're not protesting anything about bush's policies... they'd be protesting about bush himself, simply because they are sore about losing the white house election. They have a right to protest, but its not going to be percieved by the general public as anything other than sore losers.

 

[Neutrino]

I would understand if they were protesting wrongful imprisonment of those people the military has no evidence on, or the continued war in iraq, but no... they are only protesting the election of a president who has rightfully won the election.

They're not protesting the election at all. I don't see where you get that from? They are protesting Bush and his actions, period.

They're not protesting anything about bush's policies... they'd be protesting about bush himself, simply because they are sore about losing the white house election. They have a right to protest, but its not going to be percieved by the general public as anything other than sore losers.

They are not protesting about Bush himself. Nobody is protesting Bush as a man, or as a person. They are protesting him solely as a President, which inherently implies his presidential actions and policies.

By the general public, I'm assuming you mean the half of the US that voted for Bush?

 

[Raziaar]

They are not protesting about Bush himself. Nobody is protesting Bush as a man, or as a person. They are protesting him solely as a President, which inherently implies his presidential actions and policies.

By the general public, I'm assuming you mean the half of the US that voted for Bush?

Heh, you can actually say that with a straight face? You guys attack Bush's personality and his character all the time. You call him the devil, you call him other names as well. I read these boards, I see it!

So don't take it so hard if I laugh at your political party's side. Since they're obviously horrible liars.

Attack the man, then deny it.

 

[qckbeam]

What, so we’re supposed to sit down and shut up now, is that it?

I don't see the problem with showing up at the inauguration and turning my back to Bush. It’s a peaceful way of getting our message across. Just reminding him and everyone else that while 60,608,582 of the voters may have voted for him, there were 57,288,974 that voted against him.

 

[Raziaar]

What, so we’re supposed to sit down and shut up now, is that it?

I don't see the problem with showing up at the inauguration and turning my back to Bush. It’s a peaceful way of getting our message across. Just reminding him and everyone else that while 60,608,582 of the voters may have voted for him, there were 57,288,974 that voted against him.

Who told you to sit down and shut up? Go there, do what you want to do. I'm just saying the message isn't going to be very effective.

Many of you people preach about good will and doing the right thing, yet many of you are filled with such hatred against bush that you wish he were assassinated(not many of you on these forums, many liberals). Although, a few on these forums have made the 'not so joking' joke about it here and there.

 

[Steve]

Hes the president.. like him or not at least stick behind him and give him some respect.. I guess the liberals are just "sore losers"

I'll defend him to death if some other country talks shit about him...but here, I can say whatever the hell I want to about him. Nobody hits my little brother but ME, get it?

 

[qckbeam]

Who told you to sit down and shut up? Go there, do what you want to do. I'm just saying the message isn't going to be very effective.

Many of you people preach about good will and doing the right thing, yet many of you are filled with such hatred against bush that you wish he were assassinated(not many of you on these forums, many liberals). Although, a few on these forums have made the 'not so joking' joke about it here and there.

It's either sit at home and watch a man you strongly disagree with on every level sworn back into office, or you let him and everyone else know that his re-election is not a mandate from the American people and half of this country didn't, and still doesn't, want him.

Now I don't hate Bush as a person. I can't hate him simply because I don't know him. I've never met the guy. I just hate what he's doing and I hate what he wants to do. I and many others want to let him know that just because 51% of the country voted for him, it doesn't mean the path to his goals is paved smooth.

And the whole "stick up for him and give him respect because he's the President" argument doesn't make any sense. I give people respect for what they do, not for what office they hold or what title the have in front of their name.

 

[Raziaar]

It's either sit at home and watch a man you strongly disagree with on every level sworn back into office, or you let him and everyone else know that his re-election is not a mandate from the American people and half of this country didn't, and still doesn't, want him.

Now I don't hate Bush as a person. I can't hate him simply because I don't know him. I've never met the guy. I just hate what he's doing and I hate what he wants to do. I and many others want to let him know that just because 51% of the country voted for him, it doesn't mean the path to his goals is paved smooth.

And the whole "stick up for him and give him respect because he's the President" argument doesn't make any sense. I give people respect for what they do, not for what office they hold or what title the have in front of their name.

When did I make that argument?

 

[Absinthe]

Raziaar, you make a lot of sweeping generalizations as to what anti-Bushies think. Care to back them up?

Any way, I don't see any problem with this demonstration. I'd gladly take part in it, even if its sole purpose is to remind Bush that nearly half of the country still hates his policies and his actions.

 

[Raziaar]

Raziaar, you make a lot of sweeping generalizations as to what anti-Bushies think. Care to back them up?

Any way, I don't see any problem with this demonstration. I'd gladly take part in it, even if its sole purpose is to remind Bush that nearly half of the country still hates his policies and his actions.

You've got to be kidding me right? If you want, I can go pull up a couple thousand websites based solely on the claims that bush is stupid, too much of an idiot to be president, the devil, evil, looks like a monkey(personal appearance assault), and many other things. Nearly every single anti bush website run by <gasp> anti bushies, focuses on the fact that they think bush is a moron, and attack his person, rather than his record.

So tell me. If you want me to gather some links, I can pull up a dozen for starters, but really, it'd be much easier for you just to type 'bush' into the search engine. <laughs> or for even better results. bush is stupid, or bush sucks, or many various other things. The amount of results that come up no matter what you enter, seem to favor my claim that anti-bushies attack bush personally as well as the other stuff. Personal attacks are immature, and you'll find this to be agreed by nearly every website or political forum online or offline in existance.

 

[qckbeam]

When did I make that argument?

I think you mean the "stick up for Bush because he's President blah blah blah" thing? That wasn't towards you, it was to the person who mentioned it earlier in the thread. Sorry.

 

[Raziaar]

Heh, and the Brits are apparently doing the same thing even to Tony Blair. Granted, I know nothing about Tony Blair, so I won't say one way or another... but damn, this is the kind of stuff i'm talking about.

http://wheresdave.blog-city.com/read/456698.htm

Once, perhaps, there was a time when I merely found him smug and irritating. But now I think the man is rotten. He smells of dead things. If you were to scrape away the outer layers of his skin you would find his insides to be black and mouldy. The wound would weep an evil, foul smelling liquor. When he looks in the mirror, there is no reflection, only a shadow. When he walks in the snow, he leaves no footprints. When he speaks, all good, pure-hearted people feel a chill in their spine. And The Dark is his only friend.