"One State, Under God"

[Walter]

Your signature contributes to the daily process of retarding the world's population.

You didn't even open it.

 

[Walter]

I say: "God ordered mass murder and he killed children."
You say: "Do not judge God! He's all magic and, like, totally beyond our understanding! He's not evil! Sure, it looks evil. But he really isn't! You just don't understand him. He has, like, an entirely different set of rules that we don't have."

Nope, I say "Why has He killed them?"

 

[Absinthe]

Yeah, I did. Any site that treats Intelligent Design as a valid scientific model or attempts to exempt God from his crimes with some bullshit "God works in mysterious ways" apologetics has to be a product of some severe mental deficiency, and it's most unfortunate that you and others buy into it.

Interestingly, that's the only part of my post you responded to.

 

[Absinthe]

Nope, I say "Why has He killed them?"

With Jericho, he killed them because they were "depraved", but it has been established that they were no more depraved than himself and his religion.

With Moses, he ordered them killed because they worshiped something else. Oh dear.

The flood? Well, I guess he was having a bad temper. This one is unique because he completely bypassed the ritual of sacrifice and killed people directly. Millions of them. At least the children of Egypt had some way of defense before God decided wipe them out, "Night of the Long Knives"-style.

This directly relates to your objections to the Iraq war. It is a predominantly Muslim territory. They don't recognize Jesus as divine, and the head of their faith is Muhammed, who they strive to emulate. You could make some pedantic argument that in their origins, both Christianity and Islam worship the same god, but in practice they have played out quite differently. Only one version can be correct.
You could also consider them depraved. Children suicide bombers are common. People are indoctrinated into believing that sacrificing themselves along with others with explosions is glorious and right. They saw the heads off their captives, and they wish to wipe out the West along with Christianity.
By your very own standards for what you see as right and justifiable mass killings, Iraq fits the bill. And yet you don't accept this. You should, or else God is likely to kill you too.

 

[Walter]

Yeah, I did. Any site that treats Intelligent Design as a valid scientific model or attempts to exempt God from his crimes with some bullshit "God works in mysterious ways" apologetics has to be a product of some severe mental deficiency, and it's most unfortunate that you and others buy into it.

Interestingly, that's the only part of my post you responded to.

Think as you may. Don't worry, i'll look into other accusations of yours. It's easy to accuse, but a lot harder to defend.

 

[Absinthe]

You shouldn't have to be looking into anything.

If you read and understood the Bible, you would have known these things. You wouldn't have expressed confusion at the story of rape in Judges.

Like so many other Christians, it seems you have adopted your faith through sheer word of mouth, be it through friends and family or the priest at your local church. Opening the Bible itself isn't a requirement.

 

[Walter]

no, but is that really the most important part of the bible? Do people go to hell for not knowing some sentences?

Why am i a Christian? because i believe that Jesus suffered for our sins, and i accept his gift through following his teachings. I believe that He was the son of God.

 

[Absinthe]

no, but is that really the most important part of the bible? Do people go to hell for not knowing some sentences?

Yeah, you do. If you're going to follow the Bible.

HINT: You shouldn't. At all.

Why am i a Christian? because i believe that Jesus suffered for our sins, and i accept his gift through following his teachings. I believe that He was the son of God.

If you believe this, then follow his teachings then. Jesus explicitly stated in Matthew that the Old Testament is still valid and must be applied until the end of our world. All of the teachings are in the Bible, and I have no doubt that Jesus/God/Whatever would be quite offended if you were only following the bits you liked.

 

[kirovman]

Do people go to hell for not knowing some sentences?

Duh.... yes?

If you don't devoutly follow the word of God, you will go to hell. It's mentioned several times in the Bible, I'm surprised you overlooked that, it's the most important part.

 

[Walter]

I didn't ask for not following, i've asked for not knowing?

 

[CptStern]

I didn't ask for not following, i've asked for not knowing?

lol is that like those "what is the sound of one hand clapping" mind fcuk riddles? cuz I recognise those letters/words but for the life of me I dont know what they mean

 

[Walter]

Duh.... yes?

If you don't devoutly follow the word of God, you will go to hell. It's mentioned several times in the Bible, I'm surprised you overlooked that, it's the most important part.

Let's take a random quote from the Bible and see if not knowing it you'd go to hell.

Judges 6

(...)
Now all the Midianites, Amalekites and other eastern peoples joined forces and crossed over the Jordan and camped in the Valley of Jezreel. 34Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet, summoning the Abiezrites to follow him. 35 He sent messengers throughout Manasseh, calling them to arms, and also into Asher, Zebulun and Naphtali, so that they too went up to meet them.

36 Gideon said to God, "If you will save Israel by my hand as you have promised- 37 look, I will place a wool fleece on the threshing floor. If there is dew only on the fleece and all the ground is dry, then I will know that you will save Israel by my hand, as you said." 38 And that is what happened. Gideon rose early the next day; he squeezed the fleece and wrung out the dew?a bowlful of water.

39 Then Gideon said to God, "Do not be angry with me. Let me make just one more request. Allow me one more test with the fleece. This time make the fleece dry and the ground covered with dew." 40 That night God did so. Only the fleece was dry; all the ground was covered with dew.

It must be the most important thing to know. Ask around one hundred Christians, be that a thousand and see how many will answer of who was Gideon. And you claim that for this, they will go to hell? Devoutly following the word of God means following what he teaches to do and not to, that is not to steal, lie, murder, but most importantly (for us Christians) is to love God, and that means following everything that he teaches, i agree. I just don't see what Judges 6 has to do with it, nor Judges 19-20.

 

[Walter]

As they were enjoying themselves, suddenly certain men of the city, perverted men, surrounded the house and beat on the door. They spoke to the master of the house, the old man, saying, "Bring out the man who came to your house, that we may know him carnally!"
But the man, the master of the house, went out to them and said to them, "No, my brethren! I beg you, do not act so wickedly! Seeing this man has come into my house, do not commit this outrage.
Look, here is my virgin daughter and the man's concubine; let me bring them out now. Humble them, and do with them as you please; but to this man do not do such a vile thing!"
But the men would not heed him. So the man took his concubine and brought her out to them. And they knew her and abused her all night until morning; and when the day began to break, they let her go.
Then the woman came as the day was dawning, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her master was, till it was light.
When her master arose in the morning, and opened the doors of the house and went out to go his way, there was his concubine, fallen at the door of the house with her hands on the threshold.
And he said to her, "Get up and let us be going." But there was no answer. So the man lifted her onto the donkey; and the man got up and went to his place.
When he entered his house he took a knife, laid hold of his concubine, and divided her into twelve pieces, limb by limb, and sent her throughout all the territory of Israel.
And so it was that all who saw it said, "No such deed has been done or seen from the day that the children of Israel came up from the land of Egypt until this day. Consider it, confer, and speak up!"

I have to admit, I totally forgot about the bodily dismemberment. Nice touch, no? Again, this is in Judges.

Judges 20

1 Then all the Israelites from Dan to Beersheba and from the land of Gilead came out as one man and assembled before the LORD in Mizpah. 2 The leaders of all the people of the tribes of Israel took their places in the assembly of the people of God, four hundred thousand soldiers armed with swords. 3 (The Benjamites heard that the Israelites had gone up to Mizpah.) Then the Israelites said, "Tell us how this awful thing happened."
4 So the Levite, the husband of the murdered woman, said, "I and my concubine came to Gibeah in Benjamin to spend the night. 5 During the night the men of Gibeah came after me and surrounded the house, intending to kill me. They raped my concubine, and she died. 6 I took my concubine, cut her into pieces and sent one piece to each region of Israel's inheritance, because they committed this lewd and disgraceful act in Israel. 7 Now, all you Israelites, speak up and give your verdict."

8 All the people rose as one man, saying, "None of us will go home. No, not one of us will return to his house. 9 But now this is what we'll do to Gibeah: We'll go up against it as the lot directs. 10 We'll take ten men out of every hundred from all the tribes of Israel, and a hundred from a thousand, and a thousand from ten thousand, to get provisions for the army. Then, when the army arrives at Gibeah [a] in Benjamin, it can give them what they deserve for all this vileness done in Israel." 11 So all the men of Israel got together and united as one man against the city.

12 The tribes of Israel sent men throughout the tribe of Benjamin, saying, "What about this awful crime that was committed among you? 13 Now surrender those wicked men of Gibeah so that we may put them to death and purge the evil from Israel."

Think it makes sense now, doesn't it?

 

[Walter]

Any site that treats Intelligent Design as a valid scientific model or attempts to exempt God from his crimes with some bullshit "God works in mysterious ways" apologetics has to be a product of some severe mental deficiency, and it's most unfortunate that you and others buy into it.

Is that your opinion? Or have you anything to prove that wrong. And as for God working in mysterious ways, i've never found anything like that on that website. Perhaps you should pinpoint it for me.

 

[Vigilante]

It's useless to try to enforce the church-state seperation in the south. It really is.

 

[ríomhaire]

Is that your opinion? Or have you anything to prove that wrong. And as for God working in mysterious ways, i've never found anything like that on that website. Perhaps you should pinpoint it for me.

You don't see anything wrong with treating creationism as a scientific theory?

 

[theotherguy]

To add to the story of Jericho, a study was done on israelite schoolchildren asking them if they thought it was moral or not for the israelites to kill the people of jehrico.

Most of them said it was right for predictable reasons like, "they were worshiping another god and had to be smited" or "they were depraved and unclean". Even more disturbing were the kids who said that it was NOT a good thing for them to enter the city at all, "The israelites shouldn't have entered the city, entering the city made them filthy with the gods of the people of jehrico."

Then, those same group of students were shown the exact same story, replacing Jehrico with "a city in ancient China" and the hero with "General Lin", and 90 percent of the students said it was not morally acceptable for the invading army to enter and kill everyone because it was "an act of genocide".

Clearly, religion is the one and only dividing force in this situation. Religion is making people think that the genocide of the caananites and the people of jehrico as good things. It's not suprising that they'd be so eager to kill off the muslims or anyone else.

 

[CptStern]

I'm eating a chocolate easter bunny (they were all out of chocolate jesus-es) atm ...sacriicious

 

[Cole]

...What? What part of Europe do you mean?

You didn't get what I was saying. I understand why Europe hates us now. But adding religion more and more into our society will only make us look more crazier and add to the reasons why they hate us.

And you blame God for the words of a satanistic cultist that never really knew a damn about Him yet blamed God as an excuse to kill 700 000 Iraqi's for oil?!

What are you talkin about?
I blame god for the words of what bush said. If religion was not big he would not have said them.
I have not used God as an excuse for the war of Iraq, nor have i even said I supported the war on Iraq. I never even said anything related to me using god as an excuse. GEORGE BUSH DID. Not ME. Iraq has not helped with oil btw.

Where has God told anyone to kill people for no reason whatsoever? Go on, start showing me where He commanded Jericho to be burned, or any other city, but before you do that stick your damn nose i

Go read your damn bible. Other are asked to be killed because they believe in something else. Read the old testament. Then go read the new testament which btw tells you to follow the old testament. Thereby the new testament is the old laws + new laws.

I'm an atheist, the bible says I am to be killed just because I don't believe in the god it portrays. If you believe that is right then you are no better than hitler believing jews should be exterminated because they are jews.

 

[Jintor]

Is that your opinion? Or have you anything to prove that wrong. And as for God working in mysterious ways, i've never found anything like that on that website. Perhaps you should pinpoint it for me.

Look at it this way.

'God moves in mysterious ways' is a deus ex machina; it literally solves everything without solving anything. It's like saying 'The Flying Spaghetti Monster moves in mysterious ways' which is EQUALLY valid, QED both entities MUST exist if ONE statement is true.

Now, is one true or not?

 

[Nemesis6]

Were you touched by His Noodly Appendage, too, Jintor?

 

[Jintor]

IN BED.

No, wait.

 

[FieryGoose]

You didn't get what I was saying. I understand why Europe hates us now. But adding religion more and more into our society will only make us look more crazier and add to the reasons why they hate us.


What are you talkin about?
I blame god for the words of what bush said. If religion was not big he would not have said them.
I have not used God as an excuse for the war of Iraq, nor have i even said I supported the war on Iraq. I never even said anything related to me using god as an excuse. GEORGE BUSH DID. Not ME. Iraq has not helped with oil btw.


Go read your damn bible. Other are asked to be killed because they believe in something else. Read the old testament. Then go read the new testament which btw tells you to follow the old testament. Thereby the new testament is the old laws + new laws.

I'm an atheist, the bible says I am to be killed just because I don't believe in the god it portrays. If you believe that is right then you are no better than hitler believing jews should be exterminated because they are jews.

Cole don't try to explain something you don't even understand yourself, First you make yourself look dumb by making false statements like the new testament tells us to follow the old testament, That's just plain bs. After Jesus came everything changed, we were taught to deal with people through love, no longer through force, i know it sound corny but it's fact.
Secondly why do you care so much about how Europe views our religious perspectives. Also of course bush says some things because they are popular with the public, that's politics for you, whether it be regarding religion or anything else.
I'm just sick of people hating on religion saying everyone who believes in it is stupid and ignorant, what are these people trying to accomplish?

 

[Jintor]

I'm sick of people hating on non-religious people saying everyone who doesn't believe in their religion is stupid and ignorant, what are these people trying to accomplish?

 

[FieryGoose]

I'm sick of people hating on non-religious people saying everyone who doesn't believe in their religion is stupid and ignorant, what are these people trying to accomplish?

Haha, nice spin, well i definitely understand where your coming from. All i can say is I'm really sorry for your bad experiences with religious people and apologize on their behalf. It says in the Bible to not judge people, therefore I myself will definitely try not to judge people off of their religious affiliation. That includes refraining from saying atheists or agnostics etc are stupid or dumb.
Some people should definitely practice self restraint by not posting the first thing that comes to their head, and instead think about the effects of their words. Words are undoubtedly powerful tools...

 

[Adrien C]

Thanks god I live in France. That kind of crap would never happen here.

 

[kirovman]

Let's take a random quote from the Bible and see if not knowing it you'd go to hell.

Let's put it this way. If there's parts of the Bible that are unknown to you, it's highly likely that you are missing parts in your knowledge of how not to goto hell.

 

[Absinthe]

First you make yourself look dumb by making false statements like the new testament tells us to follow the old testament, That's just plain bs.

Actually, go read Matthew 5:17.

You're wrong.

 

[Jintor]

Haha, nice spin, well i definitely understand where your coming from. All i can say is I'm really sorry for your bad experiences with religious people and apologize on their behalf. It says in the Bible to not judge people, therefore I myself will definitely try not to judge people off of their religious affiliation. That includes refraining from saying atheists or agnostics etc are stupid or dumb.
Some people should definitely practice self restraint by not posting the first thing that comes to their head, and instead think about the effects of their words. Words are undoubtedly powerful tools...

By the way, you're going straight to (local equivilant of hell) in someone's religion for that phrase.

 

[Nemesis6]

By the way, you're going straight to (local equivilant of hell)

Apple's tech support?

 

[FieryGoose]

Actually, go read Matthew 5:17.

You're wrong.

Um... actually if you read any further you would see that it says in Matthew 5:18 basically that once everything is accomplished the old laws are finished. Jesus fulfilled the Law in the sense that he gave it its full meaning. He emphasized its deep, underlying principles and total commitment to it rather than mere external acknowledgment and obedience.

Jesus describes the old law differently then what you think it is, sure it comes from the old testament, but, like the pharisees you believe that he means follow the old law through your works. However he repudiates the pharisees' interpretation of the Law and their view of righteousness through works. He reinvents the law by speaking of a righteousness that comes only through faith in him and his work. Hope that sums a little up...:thumbs:

 

[Absinthe]

Um... actually if you read any further you would see that it says in Matthew 5:18 basically that once everything is accomplished the old laws are finished. Jesus fulfilled the Law in the sense that he gave it its full meaning. He emphasized its deep, underlying principles and total commitment to it rather than mere external acknowledgment and obedience.

This is makes no sense. Ignoring the debate about what the hell is meant by "fulfill" (you'd think the infallible word of God would be a bit more clear), the very sentiment that Jesus' actions make the Old Testament invalid is erroneous when he states outright that absolutely nothing will be removed from the old laws until the Heaven and Earth pass. Either Jesus is running double schedules here, or the obvious explanation is the correct one: The Old Testament applies until we're all dead and gone.

Your idea of fulfillment, which in this case means exposing the core underlying principles, deems it necessary to alter and outright reject old laws. This is a blatant contradiction, and there are a few possible explanations for this.

1.) Your interpretation of the Bible is flawed.
2.) Matthew screwed up.
3.) Jesus - a mere fallible man - screwed up.
4.) God is dicking with us.

Jesus describes the old law differently then what you think it is, sure it comes from the old testament, but, like the pharisees you believe that he means follow the old law through your works. However he repudiates the pharisees' interpretation of the Law and their view of righteousness through works. He reinvents the law by speaking of a righteousness that comes only through faith in him and his work. Hope that sums a little up...:thumbs:

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

So ignoring the contention regarding the words preceding that quote for the time being... what are we seeing here? Does the idea of divine law being optional to follow not seem totally incoherent? Even if we're granting that idea for a moment, that still doesn't change the fact that what is most certainly being stated here is that the better Christians still follow and teach Old Testament laws.

If so many Christians were half as serious as they claim to be with their faith, they'd be hopping into this righteous rat race pronto.

The Old Testament is part of every Christian Bible for a reason. It's not some irrelevant addendum thrown on for the hell of it.

 

[FieryGoose]

^ I'm going to keep this real simple because quite honestly I'm not really up for debating this when it doesn't make any difference to you if I'm right or not.

To your first response - There is a lot more too this than what meets the eye, would you really want to serve a God that thinks on the same level as us humans do? So what if fulfillment means defining whats relevant now and what should be left in the past, does that automatically void the term fulfillment in this application?
Also I wouldn't be surprised if i interpreted on passage in the Bible wrong in fact i hope i misinterpreted many more because i honestly would be questioning whether or not I'm mortal. Tell me you are perfect and have no flaws.

And to your second response - I know that there are more gifts waiting in heaven for those that pursue the will of God more than others, however that doesn't mean that the others aren't Christians. Therefore they are still going to heaven regardless.
Of course the old testament isn't irrelevant, it tells many stories, some that teach morals, others are simply history lessons, a lot also have to do with God testing the loyalty of his people, making sure they are badass enough to face their opposition(those are personally my favorite stories, pretty much like 300 in written form ).
And that's what i have to offer, but really what's wrong with people giving students the option to learn about the bible, at my school the teachers teach evolution but not opposing viewpoints, we're not trying to brainwash our kids to believe in one thing without even getting the chance to think for ourselves are we? We need to give our teenagers some purpose in their lives or society will continue to tread downward until who knows what, I have an idea but i'm not going to even mention it lest i be flamed.

 

[Jintor]

And that's what i have to offer, but really what's wrong with people giving students the option to learn about the bible, at my school the teachers teach evolution but not opposing viewpoints, we're not trying to brainwash our kids to believe in one thing without even getting the chance to think for ourselves are we? We need to give our teenagers some purpose in their lives or society will continue to tread downward until who knows what, I have an idea but i'm not going to even mention it lest i be flamed.

Mother-****ER.

Evolution is the ONLY SCIENTIFICALLY SUPPORTED THEORY. The only place creationism has in a SCIENCE CLASSROOM is as an example of "This is what you get if you don't think".

As for giving teens a purpose in their life, ever think that it's possible to instill a decent moral code without Christianity/Religion?

 

[FieryGoose]

Wow, just because I don't agree with me you get pissed and call me names.
THANKS. I may not agree with your actions but I still love you like a brother.
I have nothing against evolution in small doses, but I honestly don't believe the my great great great great great great... Grandparents were Apes. Sorry if that bothers you. It is scientifically supported but it's not fact whatsoever. We've had lots of theories wrong such as how the earth was flat, planets orbiting in perfect circles, and no we're not the center of the universe. Why even teach kids things if their not necessarily true, in most situations it's safe but what is the point of showing students a flow chart of slime becoming humans? You think religion is what you get when you don't think... wow, I don't know maybe you had some bad experiences or something, but I think quite the opposite. Try to use some intelligence and counter my argument without trying to stir up my anger by using insults and mocking my beliefs, this is borderline hate mongering, all I do state is my opinion and you call me a mother-****er...please grow up, then, come back when your ready to talk like an intelligent human being.

 

[Absinthe]

If you don't accept evolution is a fact, you have been brainwashed, deluded yourself, or your just a plain old idiot.

There is rarely - if any - hate mongering against religious faith. Just obvious, face****ing rationalism. You want people to talk like intelligent human beings? Start acting like one. All you have done so far is ignore and obfuscate clear-cut biblical statements to fit into your warped, inefficient religious preference. You have claimed to know things without the tiniest morsel of substantiation. You have ironically displayed the very arrogance which you are criticizing.

Evolution should be taught in schools because it has been established as credible by scientific fact beyond any reasonable doubt. There is no opposing theory on such equal grounds. The Bible doesn't amount to snuff. Intelligent Design has been debunked as pseudo-science. Any opposition towards evolution isn't based on an alternative explanation. It's based on the self-serving anger over the fact that secular science has, once again, triumphed over antiquated mystical bullshit.

 

[Jintor]

Wow, just because I don't agree with me you get pissed and call me names.
THANKS. I may not agree with your actions but I still love you like a brother.
I have nothing against evolution in small doses, but I honestly don't believe the my great great great great great great... Grandparents were Apes. Sorry if that bothers you. It is scientifically supported but it's not fact whatsoever. We've had lots of theories wrong such as how the earth was flat, planets orbiting in perfect circles, and no we're not the center of the universe. Why even teach kids things if their not necessarily true, in most situations it's safe but what is the point of showing students a flow chart of slime becoming humans? You think religion is what you get when you don't think... wow, I don't know maybe you had some bad experiences or something, but I think quite the opposite. Try to use some intelligence and counter my argument without trying to stir up my anger by using insults and mocking my beliefs, this is borderline hate mongering, all I do state is my opinion and you call me a mother-****er...please grow up, then, come back when your ready to talk like an intelligent human being.

I didn't swear at you. It was a rhetorical cry of despair for the fact that you do believe in this shit. And I have a right to mock your beliefs because they have no place in a science classroom. Practice your faith by all means out of a Science lab (Humans haven't gotten around yet to modifying the mindset so that religion isn't 'protected') but inside a Science lab, we have things called 'Proof' and 'Standards'. And creationism has no scientific support AT ALL.

The equivilent of 'facts' in science are incredibly supported theories, such as, say, GRAVITY and EVOLUTION. Creationism/Intelligent design/THE BIBLE IN GENERAL really does not have a place in the Scientific world, unless you're analysing how far back religious thought goes. And you don't seem to understand evolution at all, either; Apes weren't your Great (power of x) Grandfathers; Apes are more along the lines of your cousins. Could you clarify your understanding of evolution for me, please?

And simply because I'm emphasising words doesn't mean I'm being rude; i'm just trying to get my message across so I don't get misinterpreted. Evidently it's not working; I shouldn't have added that mother-****ing expletive on that mother-****ing post.

And...

and no we're not the center of the universe. Why even teach kids things if their not necessarily true, in most situations it's safe but what is the point of showing students a flow chart of slime becoming humans?

I'm sorry, but religion is not neccessarily true. Why bother showing them anything about religion? Why bother teaching them anything about religion?

 

[Absinthe]

The only important uses of religion in a classroom environment I can see are:

1) Understanding of past literature, just like one needs a rudimentary understanding of the theological context of The Illiad.

2) Understanding its role and its effect in the world, from both a modern and historical perspective.

There is absolutely no educational merit in remembering/reciting Bible verses or trying to figure out how the **** everything worked out in Genesis. The only useful purpose I can see in this is understanding how to debunk Christian myths for the time being.

 

[FieryGoose]

Ok whatever, If God exists Your beliefs are debunked, If he doesn't Christianity is debunked...However I can testify experiencing to power of God and what did you experience the Big Bang? I mean come on it takes just as much faith to believe in one as it does the other. I think the questions that no one wants to even think out are: What's eternity like after death, and what started time? Eh, probably just another explosion right?

But on topic, I think Bible class should be taught, of course don't make the kids become Christians, but at least give them the option to think for themselves. Isn't that only right, Evolution to a certain extent only contributes to the validity of the Bible, but saying that we are without a doubt a direct result of the big bang certainly conflicts with the students ability to affiliate themselves with religion.

 

[Jintor]

Ok whatever, If God exists Your beliefs are debunked, If he doesn't Christianity is debunked...However I can testify experiencing to power of God and what did you experience the Big Bang? I mean come on it takes just as much faith to believe in one as it does the other. I think the questions that no one wants to even think out are: What's eternity like after death, and what started time? Eh, probably just another explosion right?

Uh, no. We have a little thing called evidence. Observations based on expansion of space based on the Robertson-Walker model of general relativity. Hubble redshift of distant galaxies. Cosmological prinicpal. Extrapolate backwards, and...

Not to mention, oh, I don't know, the use of the Big Bang theory to predict Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation. It's not a question of faith. It's a question of evidence and whether you believe that evidence points a certain way.

I would also like to point out that right now, you are, in fact, mocking my beliefs.

Current scientific theory is that time did begin with the Big Bang; since you can't have anything before time (before being a unit of time measurement) it's all contradictory from there.

"What's eternity like after death"? Well, what is eternity like during life? If you're asking about an afterlife, there's a thread in off-topic pertaining to that, and also it's a faith sort of thing, so no place in science.

But on topic, I think Bible class should be taught, of course don't make the kids become Christians, but at least give them the option to think for themselves. Isn't that only right, Evolution to a certain extent only contributes to the validity of the Bible, but saying that we are without a doubt a direct result of the big bang certainly conflicts with the students ability to affiliate themselves with religion.

By all means, teach Bible classses. But also: Teach Islam. Buddhism. Hindu. Scientology. Pastafarianism. Judaism. If you teach Bible studies in schools on the basis of 'alternative views' you must teach every single other alternative religion or mode of thought.