Returning character revealed

[Asknoone]

That isn't the new scientist.

 

[pyrogenix]

I believe that was one of the preliminary scientists addressed earlier in the thread. I can't remember if that was one of the chatter lines of the scientists early in the game that they say as you walk around, but I'm pretty sure it was specific to one of the two scientists who were briefing you before you entered the chamber.

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[Oveja Negra]

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Adrian Shepard is Samon's worst nightmare

I really liked Adrian, it would be cool if Valve brings him back :thumbs: , but if not, it's not the end of the world.

 

[Citadel]

I say due to my theories and how i believe the HL2 story may play out that I wouldn't be happy at all if we got an Adrian Shepard back with the charisma and role of a penis in the plot. Sure if they're going to bring him back I don't mind, but I want him to be brought back with a proper role and character. That is of course if they decide to bring him back at all. The chances I still believe are slim of him returning.

There, there Samon... *strokes*

 

[Gordon-Shepherd]

I owuld prefer if he was non playable, so he could speak. but I would like him back.

 

[Citadel]

Woah, woah, woah if he was playable I would literally ask for his model to be in the next Gmod and use it for target practice. If we play as Alyx I find that pretty rubbish but being Shepard again is a step too far. I would see the writer who wove him into HL2 shot on my command. Shepards testicles in my Gmod fantasy would be the balls eye hehehehe. Yeah ok it's a crappy joke. Don't blame me I don't write this stuff. :angel:

 

[The_Great_Walter]

That isn't the new scientist.

I think it is, actually...someone said something aobut it being one of the scientists in the observation room..and seeing as Walter has already become Kleiner and Luther became Eli, that leaves us with Einstein.

 

[Citadel]

I think it is, actually...someone said something aobut it being one of the scientists in the observation room..and seeing as Walter has already become Kleiner and Luther became Eli, that leaves us with Einstein.

Exactly. We have had two of the scientist models reincarnated as Kleiner and Eli. There are only two models left to my knowledge, old handle bars and the G-man look alike.

 

[pyrogenix]

Of course he would be non playable...it would be ridiculous to throw him in as the main character from the players POV.

When I said it would be nice to have him back, I strictly meant as an NPC with plot significance like Barney. If he was brought back, it would be as another one of g-mans "contractor's" like Freeman, or something similar at least, else I can't see why the G-man would release him from limbo. As far as the greater plot is concerned, from where op4 left off, he is a wildcard who could turn up at any point, and that is what Valve intended when they ended Op4 that way rather than the nice little ending in Blue Shift. As far as the player knows, over the last decade or two he may already have been released. The fact is they built up a sub-plot surrounding Shepherd during OP4 and it would be nice to see some progress on it. And if you disagree,

......... to you too

 

[The_Great_Walter]

Exactly. We have had two of the scientist models reincarnated as Kleiner and Eli. There are only two models left to my knowledge, old handle bars and the G-man look alike.

Yeah, but it'll probably be Einstein seeing as G-Man lookalike AKA Slick wasn't in the boservation room.

 

[Citadel]

Yeah, but it'll probably be Einstein seeing as G-Man lookalike AKA Slick wasn't in the boservation room.

Plus slicky died when the resonance cascade occurred however Beardy's corpse wasn't in the observation room after you escape it and the same model is seen resuscitating a security guard just a few seconds later. I still can't understand how such an old scientist survived while the relatively young slick was for the chop but I''m just being a nit picking git as always eh.

Well Walter I think we have sufficiently summed up the debates in the thread pretty well.

 

[The_Great_Walter]

slick was a pussy he had it coming.

 

[Que-Ever]

I think it is, actually...someone said something aobut it being one of the scientists in the observation room..and seeing as Walter has already become Kleiner and Luther became Eli, that leaves us with Einstein.

Kleiner was never in black mesa and Eli was never in the observation room :|

 

[The_Great_Walter]

Kleiner was never in black mesa and Eli was never in the observation room :|

but the Walter model that inspired Kleiner and the Luther model that inspired Eli were both there...slick wasn't so einstein is porbably the new character as otherwise the character would be too smilar to the aforementioned already existing characters(Eli and Kleiner)

 

[Citadel]

Kleiner was never in black mesa and Eli was never in the observation room :|

Not directly. If your using that approach Eli and Kleiner were never in Black Mesa at all . It was only in Half Life 2 they were given proper names and identities however they were based around certain scientist models in Half Life 1. The way they treat you as Gordon Freeman in the observation room is with more respect than most of the other scientists that complain, "I'm busy." and that you will have to, "Wait till after the experiment." So we can safely assume these people were Kleiner and Eli and if they were it simply leaves one other model. Old White Beard to fill the next scientists shoes. It's an educated guess but a good one.

 

[pyrogenix]

Kleiner was never in black mesa and Eli was never in the observation room :|

Yeah, I don't see how people are getting the idea that those variables have been eliminated...They are still viable candidates for the new character.

At any rate, I don't see why it matters to figure out which of a handful of different scientists it's going to be...whoever it is will be unrecognizably reinvented seeing as how the originals were just recycled skins that belonged to every scientist you encounter throughout the game. There is absolutely nothing that would change by knowing which they chose to expand upon.

 

[Citadel]

Kleiner was in Black Mesa, he was the one looking for MIT graduates to add to the Black Mesa team and chose Gordon as one of those to be the latest man on the Black Mesa team. Also the picture on the wall in Kleiners lab that he uses to unveil the retina scanner includes him and a young Eli in the picture. This proves that they were in Black Mesa otherwise they wouldn't be in the photo of the team unless of course they wandered off the tour... :|

 

[Asknoone]

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Yeah, sorry, that was abit rude. I'm just not a big fan of Shephard.
Welcome to the forums!

I think it is, actually...someone said something aobut it being one of the scientists in the observation room..and seeing as Walter has already become Kleiner and Luther became Eli, that leaves us with Einstein.

I was talking about the Kleiner scientist. I'm pretty sure the new scientist is Einstein too. Either him or slick.

 

[The_Great_Walter]

I still think they're aiming at making an individual character out of each of the sci models to give them more of an identity...it would be less repetitive if they were to expand on a different model than the 2 already expanded, hence my belief that they'll be reintroducing Einstein. Also it'd be nostalgic for fans who were missing the comical moustached scientist.

 

[Citadel]

I still think they're aiming at making an individual character out of each of the sci models to give them more of an identity...it would be less repetitive if they were to expand on a different model than the 2 already expanded, hence my belief that they'll be reintroducing Einstein. Also it'd be nostalgic for fans who were missing the comical moustached scientist.

In my opinion the bigger question is. Will he have had a shave.

 

[pyrogenix]

Kleiner was in Black Mesa, he was the one looking for MIT graduates to add to the Black Mesa team and chose Gordon as one of those to be the latest man on the Black Mesa team. Also the picture on the wall in Kleiners lab that he uses to unveil the retina scanner includes him and a young Eli in the picture. This proves that they were in Black Mesa otherwise they wouldn't be in the photo of the team unless of course they wandered off the tour... :|

ahahaha

Yeah, great point. I remember the picture...it had a cigarette burn through Breen's face.

 

[The_Great_Walter]

In my opinion the bigger question is. Will he have had a shave.

BLASPHEMY!


Einstein was in the group pic also btw...so was Slicky and some other unseen scientists though...

 

[jerkasaur]

I'd say it's the one giving CPR to that security dude.

 

[Citadel]

ahahaha

Yeah, great point. I remember the picture...it had a cigarette burn through Breen's face.

Tipex and red pen to my knowledge. God Citadel your such a nit picking ass.

Yeah you are right that is obviously because Kleiner now hates Breen for his betrayal of earth. People used to think it was the G-man. Idiots. I mean I thought exactly the same but.... so. :smoking:

I think we can all safely assume to the the repetitive nature of Valve building off the HL1 scientist models. Old handlebars will be making a return. If he's not I'll eat my socks...

 

[Asknoone]

The new character will most likely be Einstein. Possibly the guy you first bump into or the one who was sitting with Eli.

 

[pyrogenix]

Unless they throw a curve ball, and it's really one of the roaches that were always crawling around on the floor. Sounds like a valve tactic.

 

[Piers89]

The new character will most likely be Einstein. Possibly the guy you first bump into or the one who was sitting with Eli.

Aww, i was quite hoping it would be the young looking brown haired guy, we already have 2 impaired scientists (one quite old, the other with a borked leg) it would be nice to get some more scientist youth.

Still it makes sense as the brown haired guy is trashed lying in his own blood right outside the test chamber.
Then in the next corridor a computer blows up and lands on him.
Then a few rooms later the laser gibs him.

You get the picture...

 

[kupocake]

Unless they throw a curve ball, and it's really one of the roaches that were always crawling around on the floor. Sounds like a valve tactic.

:O :O ANTLION KING! :O :O

 

[el Chi]

Quite why they went with some no-name scientist as a "returning character" I'm not sure, but whatever. Hopefully he'll be a well-rounded addition to the cast.

Aww, i was quite hoping it would be the young looking brown haired guy, we already have 2 impaired scientists (one quite old, the other with a borked leg) it would be nice to get some more scientist youth.

Still it makes sense as the brown haired guy is trashed lying in his own blood right outside the test chamber.
Then in the next corridor a computer blows up and lands on him.
Then a few rooms later the laser gibs him.

You get the picture...

Poor chap doesn't get a break, does he?

 

[Piers89]

Poor chap doesn't get a break, does he?

Alas, he does not

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

Comre on Valve, let's give him one.

 

[Walter]

They killed Kenny!

 

[Stene]

This sounds nice, fun to see people from original game. There was not much signs for HL1 in HL2 and that made me kind of sad, because I never even wathed any videos before playing it, and I expected alot of different kind of game. Or well, the monsters like Bullsquids and Houndeyes were gone but it is not so unrealistic because there is Combine and sure they have killed all of them. Headcrabs are just so little that they can easily hop and zombifie them as seen in EP1.

I think this guy is the one that helps Eli after the resonance cascade in that place where you see headcrabs for first time. The Einstein guy, he can't be Kleiner because of so big difference, and in the picture in Kleiner's lab of BM team Kleiner has brown hair and looks almost same as now.

Maybe they could add the Ted Cohrt face to that now, it looked like the Einstein guy, just with glasses. It was original design for Kleiner, it is in Raising the Bar and as CS:S hostage.

Damnit, sure Valve reads this and now they change the face

 

[Bulletbrain]

I'm going out on a limb and say its slick, the Gman look-a-like.Its the specific slick that u see having a big argument with the gman in a room somewhere before u go to the test chamber.And he is the one that gives you instructions on how to do the experiment. Why are you guys assuming that when Gordon arrives at the test chamber everyone that needed to be there are present? Couldn't some guy come into the control center after you go inside the test chamber?

Secondly I remember there were 4 guys inside the test chamber ( Correct me if I am wrong)And you can talk to each of these guys. they'll all say to hurry up and stuff like that. Now try to remember the sound of the voice of the guy that gives you instructions in the test chamber.( The guy that says "standard procedure to a non standard specimen")If I'm not mistaken this guys voice is unique. It is not a generic voice that we hear from any of the scientists throughout the game and I'm certain none of the scientists that were present in the test chamber when we walk thru it speaks in this voice. Valve clearly intended to have this person to be someone unique and differentiated him with a unique voice so the player would assume that this was an important person. This point supports my theory of someone walking in to the control room after Gordon enters the test chamber.

Here is my thoery on how it happened. Slick had his argument with the gman and leaves shortly after gordon sees him. Gordon beats him to the control room and goes in to the test chamber. Slick comes in, takes control of the experiment and gives instructions to Gordon and the other scientists. When he sees the first signs of the resonance cascade he scrams leaving the other scientists. The reactor blows kills and maims the other scientists.The end.

This is my first post btw.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

I don't think they were actually in the test chamber, but I certainly see where your going. :thumbs:
(Oh yes and welcome)

 

[Bulletbrain]

Thanks Atomic! I hope u r not being sarcastic...r u??

Anyway when I say scientists in the "test chamber" I mean scientists in the "control room"... Only Gordon goes inside the test chamber.

 

[Tagaziel]

Hey, that slick arguing with G-Man theory was mine!

 

[Bulletbrain]

Sorry Mikeal, I didn't see ur post... Do u also think that slick was the one who was giving gordon instructions in the test chamber?

Great to see there are people supporting this theory of slick-arguing-with-gman-is the returning character

 

[A Big Fat CoW]

It wasn't a slick that was arguing with the gman.

 

[Rizzo]

^^I had the old einstein scientist.