Russia threatens eastern europe with nuclear weapons

[Tagaziel]

I'm Polish, ty ignorancie.

 

[VirusType2]

The missile shield is not intended to defend against Russia, it's intended to defend Europe from Iran in particular. The US has given Russia full permission to come and check out the missile shield any time they want.

Read the articles.

 

[Mr Stabby]

They knew Iran would be a problem in the 70's.

 

[VirusType2]

this is the article that might have been missed, that explains quite a bit:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080817/pl_nm/shield_usa_poland_dc

Washington says the shield will be aimed at protecting the United States and its allies from long-range missiles that could be fired by Iran or groups such as al Qaeda.

"We have agreed along with our partners in Poland and the Czech Republic to give the Russians access both physical and technical access so they know what's going on every step of the way," he said.

"We've agreed not to even make the interceptors operational until the Iranians have test-launched a missile that has the range to hit much of Western Europe, not to mention Russia. So this is really an old song that they're singing and it really just doesn't play," he said.

 

[Tagaziel]

I still want this shit off my country's soil.

 

[staticprimer]

I'm Polish, ty ignorancie.

Sorry, by we I thought you meant NATO.

 

[unozero]

I still want this shit off my country's soil.

being a member of the EU and Nato has responsibilities its not jusr all gimme gimme gimme.

 

[delusional]

Why does NATO still exist?

 

[AJ Rimmer]

being a member of the EU and Nato has responsibilities its not jusr all gimme gimme gimme.

Yeah damn Poland, they get all the breaks. And now they're getting all testy over something as insignificant as their nation's sovereignty.

 

[unozero]

Yeah damn Poland, they get all the breaks. And now they're getting all testy over something as insignificant as their nation's sovereignty.

what the **** are you talking about a lot of people and the nations leader do wants this system.


**** srsly

 

[AJ Rimmer]

what the **** are you talking about a lot of people and the nations leader do wants this system.


**** srsly

:O You mean Grizzly doesn't represent his country internationally?

/shocked

 

[unozero]

does he speak for polish people?

 

[Tagaziel]

I speak for myself. And those who don't want the missile shield system.

Which, by the way, is completely pointless, as it won't be activated until Iran does a test launch, decision to use it will be made in Colorado, USA and in the end, we'll end up being a prime terrorist strike target, since we have neither the security nor the vigilance of the Western Europe, while having an American military base here.

We got rid of foreign troops on our soil in 1992, when the last Soviet soldiers left. And I'd prefer my country staying that way.

 

[nurizeko]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
MOTHERLAND!!!!!!!!!!

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Seriously though, come on people, use your grey matter, its a good deal for the west and a good deal for Poland, modernized air defenses and a missile interceptor base, the only reason any Pole should be against this is if they are massive dumb ****ing spanner-brains like the rest of the illogical American bashing noobtards who's sole reason to bash America is an irrational hatred rather then for any genuine logically presented criticisms, or a Russophile Putin penis sucking rim licking brown noser to the neo-tsar and his KGB era imperial ambitions.

Russian troops were occupying Poland to ensure its puppet regime remind in power to use Poland as nothing more then an expendable meatshield in Russia's aggressive postering.

One US missile interceptor base that was agreed upon after Poland got what it wanted is not an occupation, its called Poland taking its chances with the bigger half of the world also known as the "free".

Russian nuclear threats are stupid, if Russia means well it shouldn't have to fear whatever the hell Poland choses to do on its own soil and who it choses to associate with, and if it doesn't mean well, then a missile interceptor base and modernized air defenses capable of blowing every last Russian rusty old PoS aircraft out the sky will do more to ensure Polands safety then all the cowering and pussy posturing will ever achieve.

America might do stupid things, but its still the greatest ally any democratic and free nation can hope to have, at least I'de rather jump in bed with uncle sam then comrade crushyoulots.

 

[15357]

^What he said.



I, for one, would welcome a missile defence shield. Along with C-RAM, if possible.

 

[Tagaziel]

nuri, you don't really get the point, do you? Poland doesn't need American crap on it's soil - I'd prefer closer ties with our neighbours next door rather than a crumbling empire several thousand kilometers away. Then again, you're a kilt-wearing pervert, so what can you know about Poland.

Oh, and Russia has a quite capable military, and it's armed forces are definitely not composed of old aircraft.

 

[Ennui]

Mikael, at this rate you're going to alienate Americans so much that we're going to let either Germany or Russia take over your country again.

 

[15357]

When the ruskie paratroopers come.......

 

[Tagaziel]

Mikael, at this rate you're going to alienate Americans so much that we're going to let either Germany or Russia take over your country again.

Not likely. By then, your economy will have totally collapsed and we'll be forced to put up with milions of American emigrants.

When the ruskie paratroopers come.......

They won't. Hit your brain clutch and switch from the Cold War gear to Reality.

 

[unozero]

I ment no offense btw I just think that europe does need that missle system.

 

[Tagaziel]

Yes. Active and controlled in a military center in Europe, not inactive and controlled from Colorado.

 

[SpotEnemyBoats]

Crumbling empire?

 

[15357]

When you realize that the peace that we all have so naively trusted was only a delusion, it would be too late.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Crumbling empire?

Yes. Welcome to USA circa 2001.

 

[nurizeko]

nuri, you don't really get the point, do you? Poland doesn't need American crap on it's soil - I'd prefer closer ties with our neighbours next door rather than a crumbling empire several thousand kilometers away. Then again, you're a kilt-wearing pervert, so what can you know about Poland.

Oh, and Russia has a quite capable military, and it's armed forces are definitely not composed of old aircraft.

Touched a nerve have I?.

Kilt wearing pervert, heh cute.

heres a hint *pulls out a map of Europe, points to Poland and then draws a circle around it through its neighbours*


Poland is part of the European Union, Germany, its neighbour, is part of the EU, Lithuania is part of the EU, Czech Republic, Slovakia, all are its neighbours, all are co-members with a union treaty for cooperation and peaceful and profitable trade and diplomatic relations.


Russia is not a neighbour of Poland. Likewise Russia occupied Poland for decades, using it as it saw fit.


The fact your government wouldn't budge until the deal came with air defenses kind of proves Poland very much needs America, NATO, and EU "crap" on its soil. What threat is your government so afraid of trhat it wants modernized air defenses, because I cant imagine Germany starting world war 3 anytime soon, can you?.



Stop being so foolish.

Your the one thats completely missed the point. Poland does have closer relations with its neighbours, its called being part of the EU and unless I am mistaken, NATO.


But as I said (quite rightly) the only people who would be opposed to this is dumbtards, America bashers, or Russophiles.

You have proved my point exactly, thank you.


On a last few points, yes, Russia's military is a rusting old force thats not up to task, if you cant accept that, thats your issue.

As my last final point, resorting to racial slurs is not only extremely poor debate style, its just sad, and more importantly, against forum rules of conduct.

As a Modmin I think you know better is expected of you.

 

[unozero]

Yes. Welcome to USA circa 2001.

haha:thumbs:

 

[Mr Stabby]

Yes. Active and controlled in a military center in Europe, not inactive and controlled from Colorado.

I agree with that, Europe should have European defences not American ones.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Then again, you're a kilt-wearing pervert, so what can you know about Poland.

Quit screwing around.

 

[unozero]

I agree with that, Europe should have European defences not American ones.

we are great allies why not share?

 

[Ennui]

Then again, you're a kilt-wearing pervert, so what can you know about Poland.

Bigotry and racism are not tolerated among members, much less site staff.

I think we can all agree this thread is over.