Scientist are most likely wrong ...

[MjM]

Most published scientific research papers are wrong, according to a new analysis. Assuming that the new paper is itself correct [:dozey:], problems with experimental and statistical methods mean that there is less than a 50% chance that the results of any randomly chosen scientific paper are true.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7915


Unno when i hear stuff like this, it actually make me more trusting of scientists ...

On the otherhand;

Unfortunately, its admissions like this, that those pesky "intelligent design" proponents latch onto and sell to the lower quartile. And its my opinion ID does nothing to further science ... .


So i if i may pose a two part question. What evidence is there of an intelligent designer and how does intelligent design benefit science?

 

[bliink]

What evidence is there of an intelligent designer and how does intelligent design benefit science?

None and None.

ID is based on faith, science is what is based on evidence.

 

[MjM]

Yea but its always interesting to see what they come up with ...

 

[Absinthe]

There is nothing to support ID.

 

[SAJ]

There is however, plenty of evidence for un-intelligent design:http://www.presidentmoron.com/moronlips.jpg

 

[Sloth]

What really is Intelligent Design, i've been hearing stuff about it but...
A cross between Science and Christain Faith??

 

[ríomhaire]

ID is wrong, this is right.

 

[bliink]

What really is Intelligent Design, i've been hearing stuff about it but...
A cross between Science and Christain Faith??

Its a rebranded creationism.

 

[ríomhaire]

What really is Intelligent Design, i've been hearing stuff about it but...
A cross between Science and Christain Faith??

It is the idiotic idea that ignores all fosil records and states that God created man in his own image they way they are now.

 

[mortiz]

This is like that statistic "99% of statistics are false".

 

[Llama]

its a lot to do with (in ID theory) that evolution does not exist, and the mutations that change species are caused by other, higher, more intelligent beings...

...or some bollucks like that
Pretty much what riomhaire and others said

 

[CptStern]

the headline is misleading ...it doesnt really say scientists are 50% wrong. It's the research that's faulty:

"problems with experimental and statistical methods " - heh, we all know statistics are stastically wrong 65% of the time (or 99% on weekends)

 

[MjM]

Well isn't a scientists research the key indicator of how right a scientist is.

Anyways, kinda reassuring that ID is losing ground at least on this site. Still pretty wierd phenomenum.

http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/08/math_for_believ.html#more
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/science/30profile.html?pagewanted=print

The second link is perhaps the most worrying. Check this:

Dr. Miller's data reveal some yawning gaps in basic knowledge. American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century.

Lately, people who advocate the teaching of evolution have been citing Dr. Miller's ideas on what factors are correlated with adherence to creationism and rejection of Darwinian theories. In general, he says, these fundamentalist views are most common among people who are not well educated and who "work in jobs that are evaporating fast with competition around the world."

Its a real interesting read though.
Hehe

 

[Ikerous]

Theres a lot of evidence for young earth creationism, if that counts
(Although I'm sure you guys would tear it all to shreds... it's still science convincing people (It just happens to be bad science...), so not all creationists are completely irrational.. just most)

 

[satch919]

Intelligent Design is just another way for the fanatical Christians to circumvent law to get religion into school under the guise that it's science. People are free to practice and study their own religion on their private time. School is entirely different. It's a place that teaches you how to think logically and with reason. Religion takes both of those concepts and throws them out the window with the kitchen sink.

I would be very cautious of people that thought that the Earth was only 3 thousand years old.

There's is nothing intelligent about ID. It has no place near biology or science in general.

 

[KoreBolteR]

i hate fanatical religious people. trying to convert us...