StarCraft II

It's like 29 missions. You prolly skipped the Protoss missions in your marathon.

Also, I don't think I'm a fanboy at all. I've never been a fanboy to any game. I judge them all games objectively. SC2 isn't perfect. I can't think of any game that didn't have some flaw no matter how minor. I'm just saying that the stated "flaws," in most cases, either don't exist or are minor and not at all worth skipping out on a good game. It's like skipping HL2 because Alyx was in it too much or not enough, or because the game wasn't 40 hours long, or because multiplayer was only deathmatch... and then going on a forum and complaining about it.

I dunno, I just think it's lame. There are games that are MUCH worse that do not get as much shit as SC2 has recently. People are just trolling on it for the attention.

Yes, yes, exactly. Overall, despite its flaws, some minor some major, Starcraft II is a very decent game. Enjoyable, fun, and with unprecedented potential, especially regarding its mission editor.
 
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I expect 3 campaigns because that is what we got with SC1. Using your ridiculous logic, I guess it would be fine for Valve to ship L4D3 with 1 campaign, and then charge $x 2 years later for the rest?

I just want to add: It's 1 campaign, with another smaller campaign in the middle, and about the length of all 3 from the original. It adds tons of new single-player only features not present in the SC1, including constant research capabilities and almost twice the amount of buildable units from multiplayer. While it doesn't have full campaigns for all 3 races, it adds many more mechanics and length to a single campaign which make it enjoyable as a standalone game.

I also appreciate its take on Terran-only campaign. In the original, the Terran missions were first of an overall 3-part campaign, and therefore the easiest all the way through. This way it feels like you get the easy as well as the difficult out of Terran. You didn't get challenging Terran missions until Brood War.

The only gripe I have is that there is no playable Zerg in the campaign. I really do wish they integrated that. But overall I very much enjoyed the singleplayer and I'm reacting to misinformation.
 
There is nothing wrong with having one campaign instead of three. I rather enjoy 30 missions of Wings of Liberty with all the unique features of this particular campaign than 10 missions of each campaign with minimal missions to actually experience the cool additions.

**** Activision, but Blizzard is still cool, at least for now. We could fault the company for many things, but having 1 campaign instead of 3 is not one of them.
 
I find myself pretty uninterested in this game after doing the first 4 or so missions. Its really quite boring since combat is so lame.

Play some more (10 missions at least :|) then give me your email and stuff so I can add/stalk you. The usual, you know.
 
It's not a bad game at all but i just don't see what all the hubbub bub is about. There's nothing really noteworthy about it. I have never played any of the previous installments in the series but SC 2 appears to be a blatant rip off of Dawn of War and Mass Effect. Correct me if i am wrong.


From what i can tell, this is just another overhyped spectacle catered for the "professional" gamers just like Counter Strike.
 
It's not a bad game at all but i just don't see what all the hubbub bub is about. There's nothing really noteworthy about it. I have never played any of the previous installments in the series but SC 2 appears to be a blatant rip off of Dawn of War and Mass Effect. Correct me if i am wrong.


From what i can tell, this is just another overhyped spectacle catered for the "professional" gamers just like Counter Strike.

What you are saying is equivalent to "I haven't played the first Half Life, but from what I could tell Half Life 2 is a blatant rip off of Halo 1"

Oh, Starcraft was released the same year as Half Life 1 for those who never played it.
 
Play some more (10 missions at least :|) then give me your email and stuff so I can add/stalk you. The usual, you know.
k.

Correct me if i am wrong.

You're wrong. It plays nothing like Dawn of War, nor Mass Effect. Both of which existed after Starcraft, so thats a dumb statement anyways. Though it does rip-off Warhammer 40k's setting (which was around before Starcraft). Terrans = Space Marines, Zerg = Tyranids, Protoss = Eldar. There are so many similarities between the two its quite uncanny.
 
so gretor was in my plat division sitting at 700 points, and i was right behind him with 300 points, and i just got promoted to diamond, lol bugged system
 
Every thread I go, TwwIX is talking shit.

Also, my brother won't leave me alone about SC2. I'm just going to wait a couple of years until the other campaigns and stuff come out, I'm not too fussed atm.
 
I was. I think you have dyslexia or something.

No I'm just to lazy sometimes to type correctly and I type to fast...I'll try to get better at at it so it won't hurt your eyes so much.
 
So, what leagues are you guys in?

I won 3/5 1v1 placements and got into gold :X It's obviously too much for me, too, cuz I'm getting kind of ruined already. Won only 1 out of 4 games.
 
Still haven't touched multi, almost done with the campaign. 21 missions done now.
 
Pretty awesome ending. I liked the last mission and I actually lost the first time on normal. I was just sort of haphazardly going at it and failed because of it. Sad I have to wait however long to continue this story. Don't even know where they could take it...

I apparently have to redo the Breakout mission for some reason even though I did it. Says I only have 25/26 done. I totally went back to do it too and beat it and I even have the achievements but I guess it didn't accept it... or didn't save it (since achievements are tied to your profile) but I guess I can run through it again...
 
Not the breakout mission. There's a hidden mission if you

destroy a science facility at the bottom of the mission where you comcast Mengsk's rant. It unlocks a secret mission, and you can't unlock it unless you have not gone past the "point of no return". Sucks but w/e I plan to replay the campaign someday anyway.
 
im able to maintain a 180-190 average apm in a 20+ min match, next goal is to go over 200
 
I generally dislike RTS games and haven't played SC 1, but I really like this game!
 
Im enjoying the variety of options and learning from my mistakes.

I watched a replay of my last MP match against a Terran player, I was Zerg, on one of the noob maps where there are rocks blocking every path.

I pushed out and made 2 expansions, he sat in his base and didnt make a single push outward, the rocks were still at his base entrance and he covered it with bunkers and siege tanks, even though I had the vastly superior ground force. Basically if his rocks werent there, I would have absolutely walked all over him.

Suddenly he wipes out my main hive and 2nd expansion with cloaked banshees, and for some reason I had decided NOT to

A - have air defence.
B - have any method of detecting cloaked units.

But what annoyed me the most, was the fact that I didnt even THINK OF taking all my overlords, loading up my troops and hit the left side of his base which had NO air defence (which I could always see as I had an overlord parked nearby as a scout). I would have raped his economy and then a few key structures before he could even get near me.

But no, I lost a game to 4 cloaked banshees, and the stats at the end suggested I was about 3x the more advanced player. I had loads more tech, loads more economy, triple his units, but because I had no air defence at all, I lost.

Learning.
 
overlords can spot invisible units right? I know they could in starcraft 1.
 
Overlords aren't detectors in SC2. IIRC brood lords are though.
 
Ah that's right. I never actually built an overseer during the beta.

I've been sort of busy so I'm only about halfway thru the campaign (3rd Zeratul level). I LOVE THIS GAME though. Literally the first RTS singleplayer campaign that I've been able to really get into since Brood War.
 
Aye, overlords morph into overseers but then lose their ability to transport, gaining extra sight and detector abilities instead.

Think you need a lair for that to happen though. And Ive just realised how important the speed upgraded for overlords is. Especially after my sneaky-sneaky back door deployment wiped out my poor opponent's income in about 5 seconds and won me the game. God I love a zergling swarm, they're almost unstoppable if you can surround your target pack first.
 
So guys, would you sya this is worth buying if one isn't particularly interested in multiplayer?
 
I'd say yes. It is a good campaign, the challenges are fun, and there will be mods galore. Plus you're the kind of person that appreciates a polished PC-exclusive game.
 
Yeah sure. The campaign is awesome.

I've been sort of busy so I'm only about halfway thru the campaign (3rd Zeratul level). I LOVE THIS GAME though. Literally the first RTS singleplayer campaign that I've been able to really get into since Brood War.

The last Toss mission is one of my favorites in the game. It's absolutely awesome.
 
Yeah sure. The campaign is awesome.



The last Toss mission is one of my favorites in the game. It's absolutely awesome.

I'd have to agree, but I'm not fully done yet. 21 or 22 done now.
 
So guys, would you sya this is worth buying if one isn't particularly interested in multiplayer?

Unequivocally YES. Like I said, this is probably the best singleplayer campaign I've ever played in an RTS (coming from someone who plays skirmish/multiplayer 95% of the time in RTS and rarely even touches singleplayer campaigns). You can also expect a wealth of good singleplayer mods in coming months and years.
 
Not the breakout mission. There's a hidden mission if you

destroy a science facility at the bottom of the mission where you comcast Mengsk's rant. It unlocks a secret mission, and you can't unlock it unless you have not gone past the "point of no return". Sucks but w/e I plan to replay the campaign someday anyway.

Laaaaaaaaaaame... I wish I had some idea that was what was going on... now I can't unlock that portrait... or see what that was.

I found a way to do it at least for the achievement and to see the mission. The only issue is, in order to have it at the end, you have to play through the game from that point to the end. The game puts all the autosaves from your game into a folder in the starcraft 2 documents section called "unsaved" and you can just load from there and get it. It's a pretty fun mission. If you play it, I'd advise against picking ultralisks... just some advice. I dunno if I'll play though the last part again or not. I did the broadcast mission right before the whole chain that leads to the end. At the very least I got the achievement and the portrait I wanted. Good times...
 
Is it true that the story ends on a cliffhanger note?
 
Not really... I thought it was going to because of a fade to black situation, but then they show what happens. It's not so much a cliffhanger, but it's definitely set up for sequels. I honestly have no idea where the story is going... though that secret mission shed a bit of light on it.
 
Apparently it ends on a note worthy of a cliffhanger.

Dont forget, its part of a trilogy. I can see the protoss coming out next, then the Zerg, as I think we all know how the story ends. Having the Zerg be the final part of the story kind of makes more sense.
 
With the queen of blades turned back to Kerrigan, doesn't that still mean that the queen of blades is dead? Ala that the overmind's vision will still happen?
 
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