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Would you kill him?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 60.4%

  • No

    Votes: 21 39.6%
  • Total voters
    53
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Austria, 1930's.

You meet a young Art student by the name of Adolf Hitler in a "cafe".
You both ask drinks. You know what he'll do in the next remaining 20 years of his life. He will be responsible for the assasination of 10 millions. You can kill him.


[don't say you wouldn't do anything " kase everything that happened was meant to", imagine that if you did, the World would be Heaven. ]

This is a philosophical question. I wish to know the state of mind of the forum goers around here.

BTW, after a massive ban (for which I hold no hard feelings on Abom|nation, he did his job) IM BACK!!!
 
Wait, I change my vote. :p

You don't have the right to kill him. You should have the moral responsibility to make sure he never gets into a place where he could make those decisions. That means dedicating your life to preventing him from having power.
 
No.
Why?
Well, at the time, I won't know what happens in the future and I can respect the fact that he's an artist and had a tough child-hood.
 
I'd slit his throat without second thought, knowing that'll prevent the holocaust and the world wars.
 
Tredoslop said:
No.
Why?
Well, at the time, I won't know what happens in the future and I can respect the fact that he's an artist and had a tough child-hood.
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Sprafa said:
You know what he'll do in the next remaining 20 years of his life. He will be responsible for the assasination of 10 millions. You can kill him.
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And yes BalckWofldrk, before the ban we were quite some friends....
 
I voted no and to be honest I don't quite know why.


I mean I tried to picture myself with the chance to kill him. And the only thing that poped into my head was to go talk to him first. Try to understand, maybe even change him. I know that sounds absurd. But thats just what I thought of...


Is that a good or a bad thing.. :rolling:





PS: If I discovered he was both sane and evil then I would probably resort to killing him if I knew what his future held...
 
Though I said id kill him (and im not changeing my mind) it does raise some interesting questions.The Red Alert storyline being one,Did Hitler stop a Soviet lead World War a few years down the road,possibly with Nukes?
Your are effectively killing an innocent as he is not aware and may not yet be set on the Holocaust.Though you know,he doesnt.How many people whom you have met could be the next hitler?

But I all boils down to the greater good.And that would be the greater good.
 
doesn't anyone imagines that there could be another way?
 
That would be me Sprafa. :)




Dunno if it would work mind, I think thats what I would be most worried about.
 
No, you see, if I can go back to 1930, I can go back to 1900. I would do this and then stop Adolf from being born in the first place.

Ingenius.
 
I would only kill him because it'd prevent the two superpowers after WWII. Countries would be more balanced in power without being destroyed in the war, and one individually wouldn't be a big threat.
 
Dave said:
No, you see, if I can go back to 1930, I can go back to 1900. I would do this and then stop Adolf from being born in the first place.

Ingenius.
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let's respect the question please....
 
no I wouldn't, why? Because that's the way things happened, and I don't have the foresight to understand how things would have played out had Hitler not risen to power. Why tamper with something we cannot possibly understand?
 
qckbeam said:
no I wouldn't, why? Because that's the way things happened, and I don't have the foresight to understand how things would have played out had Hitler not risen to power. Why tamper with something we cannot possibly understand?
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I'm sorry this excuse has been unallowed.... please see the 1st post in extent ;)
 
Sprafa said:
let's respect the question please....
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I said no, then gave my reason why. What kind of response were you expecting? :)
 
Dave said:
I said no, then gave my reason why. What kind of response were you expecting? :)
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You aren't allowed to go to 1900's. This is your only chance ;)
 
Sprafa said:
Please note -

And yes BalckWofldrk, before the ban we were quite some friends....
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Yes, I know that, but what I'm saying is that, because I barely remember stuff, I won't remember that he's the future evil lord of nazis.
Oh, and also, I may get the world into even more trouble.
1930-WWI has already happened, if I kill Hitler, he's probably at the age where he's a famous speaker and because I'm chinese, China will be dragged in making some kind of war with other nations.
And I don't have the guts to kill:(
 
This makes you consider the whole cause and causality effect... changing one thing for better could lead to even worse things in later life... the Red Dwarf episode where they prevent JFK from being shot is a good example ;)

Oh, and welcome back Sprafa.
 
Sprafa said:
I'm sorry this excuse has been unallowed.... please see the 1st post in extent ;)
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whoops, skipped right over that :)

well if I killed him and the world would be heaven of course I would, who wouldn't?
 
qckbeam said:
whoops, skipped right over that :)

well if I killed him and the world would be heaven of course I would, who wouldn't?
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there are alternatives of course...
 
Sprafa said:
there are alternatives of course...
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Talk to himm you mean, try to change his mind? I doubt two hours in a bar, talking over things would change the mans years of life experience. No, I'd pop him once in the head and slip away. That is of course assuming I only had one chance to do this. If I could try different things, see the results, and go back if they were bad ones, well, then I'd try talking to him first.
 
One shot. And you could keep him a whole month if you think you can talk well.

btw, his ideal were at forge at that moment. So talking with him...
 
As much as I would like to kill Hitler I don't think I would do it. Why? Not because of my own morality but because of what could happen if WW2 never occured. Alot of good things came out of the war in the long run. Technology, being one of them. Also who knows what would happen between Russia and the US at the time. Would the cold war happen? Would it be worse?

Also just because you take out Hitler doesn't mean that Germany won't decide to go to war anyway. TOne major reason Hitler was able to gain so much power was because the German people felt that they were being wronged by the other nations that they lost WW1 too. So perhaps someone even worse than Hitler could have come to power, someone who was a much worse enemy.

There are just too many variables to really know that killing Hitler would make the world better, it could make it ten times worse. So why try and medle with the past when you don't know the outcome. Its worse than playing with fire and the consequences could be much worse than simply getting burned.
 
The Mullinator said:
As much as I would like to kill Hitler I don't think I would do it. Why? Not because of my own morality but because of what could happen if WW2 never occured. Alot of good things came out of the war in the long run. Technology, being one of them. Also who knows what would happen between Russia and the US at the time. Would the cold war happen? Would it be worse?

Also just because you take out Hitler doesn't mean that Germany won't decide to go to war anyway. TOne major reason Hitler was able to gain so much power was because the German people felt that they were being wronged by the other nations that they lost WW1 too. So perhaps someone even worse than Hitler could have come to power, someone who was a much worse enemy.

There are just too many variables to really know that killing Hitler would make the world better, it could make it ten times worse. So why try and medle with the past when you don't know the outcome. Its worse than playing with fire and the consequences could be much worse than simply getting burned.
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Well said. Basically, if it isn't broke, why fix it?
 
If you've ever played Red Alert you know what would happen. God damn Soviets.
 
mullinator worded it quite well. i don't feel like making long posts anymore, so to keep this short(i hope), i don't think i'd kill hitler. even if i really wanted to, i couldn't bring myself to do it. war would have happened anyways. the french, and their treaty garaunteed that. without hitler however, what do we have? we don't have the same level of consciousness about genocide. likely, genocide would fall upon deaf ears the world over. a lot of people see hitler as the most evil person ever because he was ordering the systematic killing of a whole population of people(even though stalin and mao killed many times more people than hitler did). hitler serves as an example for the rest of the world, in that, world societies need boundries, in order to help define the social construct of "bad" so that we can in turn, define what is "good." how can one ever know love if one has never known hate, not necessarily on a personal level, but there has to be a limit or line that we can use for definition and say "okay this is hate/evil, this is how we define it, from this we can learn tolerance and the opposite of what is bad." all in all, i think we have done a fairly good job of learning from what hitler did to increase world-wide awareness of atrocities throughout the world, sure there have been many other events to help with this, and we still have a ways to go, but we're making progress.


damnit... long post
 
synth said:
I would only kill him because it'd prevent the two superpowers after WWII. Countries would be more balanced in power without being destroyed in the war, and one individually wouldn't be a big threat.
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Agreed .
 
No i wouldnt.......its likely that 90% of us here would cease to exist.


and the other 10% wouldnt even be the same people.
 
I'd infect him with madcow at an opportune time so he'd die around WWII (a little before) :)
 
I would kill him.

If it was my choice I would just shoot him in everyone of his joints besides the fingers and toes. Who would want a cripple as a furor. It wouldnt be enough just to kill him. I would also have to kill the nazi party which was a german political party at the time.

It hitler wasnt the political furor of that party obviously someone else would haave been :/ so instead of hitler iy might have been Von Shinza or something.
 
I would kill him, go to the future and see what happens, if it's good, i'll keep it that way, if it's bad, I'll go back and fix things and then come back to the future.
 
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