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I beg to differ here. The 9600 (non-pro) is not that fast a card... The 256MB of memory doesn't make it any faster (the card is too slow to use the memory in the first place). You may as well wait until HL2 comes out, but you may find yourself dissappointed, especially if you want to run the...

??? Mine idles at around 47C, goes up to around 54C at load. The tradeoff is that it's nearly silent. Honestly, some people choose to stay at safe temperatures with near-silent cooling rather than use 50dB fans to get their temps to unecessarily low levels so they can...er... What exactly...

What are your temps? Yes, all CPU HSF's (that I know of) blow air onto the CPU. I have one fan in the front blowing air in, one on the side blowing in, and one in the back blowing out (+PSU blowing out)-this is typically a good configuration. What you want is for the air, in general, to be...

http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=445 A good review for your purposes (if a bit old, but PCI graphics technology hardly changes at this point). IMO, the ATI Radeon 9100 128MB is the way to go.

I went from an A7V/Duron 700mhz to an A7V333/1700+ to a 2400+, along with a Voodoo 3 3000 to a GeForce 3 Mx420 to a Ti4400 to a 9800 pro, without once reformatting (well, I did once, but that was due to something completely unrelated). I suppose it would be a good idea to reformat anyway, just...

It can be very risky, and your friend is being unreasonable, IMO. Unless you're lucky, prices aren't THAT much better on eBay, unless you buy used stuff.

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Same. The 9800 Pro is easily the best price:performance midrange card available at the moment, at least imo.

Virtually (depending on where you look), and yes.

They installed just fine for me... Although on the first run of the install program it hung while installing the control panel.

I have the same problem, but randomly. Sometimes it shuts down right away, sometimes it takes up to five minutes, sometimes it doesn't at all. I'm gonna look up any solutions (I know there were a ton recommended for ME).

It should work at least decently. And you don't necessarily have to spring for top-of-the-line; the 6800 may cost as low as $299, although I'm not entirely sure.

Clock speed and memory speed is about it. Not at all. At the very least, wait and save up for either Nvidia's new card or ATI's new card.

He mentioned buying a 9800 XT/Pro256. Either of those is around the same price point as the 6800, which will be alot faster. Far Cry murders any video card out right now at anything near full quality without AA/AF, but the new generation handle the game with ease. Considering this, I think...

And that almost certainly is your problem. I would get a good ~400 watt PSU.

I probably could. I'd say, depending on how much you're willing to spend, that you should wait for the new ATI and NVidia cards to be made available. The 9800 Pro is a great value, yes, but only because its price is being pushed down by these new cards that absolutely blow it and its...

You should be able to get a 9600 Pro for CLOSE to $100 online, but in any case I would wait and save up.

THE PLANET HALF-LIFE FORUMS. YOU CAN'T POST ANYTHING THERE WITHOUT IT BEING LOCKED. JESUS CHRIST, and the mods act like posters are giving them more work... BS. Just don't be such hard asses and you won't have to close freaking 5 threads a day. And I can't e-mail the address listed there to get...

Exactly. They apparently used low quality everything on the first one.

Here Is the best review I've read. And this thing absolutely blows away the 9800 XT in anything that isn't totally CPU-limited. I need one for graduation :p . New best review I've read: Here