Beastiality

[Reaktor4]

I guess you could say that they can't consent to you doing it so it's wrong. But, they also don't consent to being eaten or owned as pets either. So I guess that argument doesn't really work.

two wrongs != right (in this case)

 

[Loc-Dog]

how The **** Did This Become 27 Pages?!

 

[Flyingdebris]

Who said anything about "everything?" We're talking about beastiality here, focus.



For one that's a slippery slope argument. This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because there is no reason to believe that one event must inevitably follow from another without an argument for such a claim.

For two, why does beastiality have to be one of those limits particularely?

society is built upon a massive framework of new ideas, preexisting ideas, and firmly held beliefs. There are people who build onto it and there are others who chip away at it, both for good or ill, to set the standard for what is acceptable. To be accepting of beastiality would undermine A LOT of the preconieved notions about what it means to be a member of society as a whole. That is why i think it is a very slippery slope.

Besides do you want to see real life mirror the depths of the internet?

 

[TheSomeone]

Okay... humanity says its wrong... the majority. You base that off of cultural conditioning. So what is to stop you from thinking all the other things that we are culturally conditioned against is right?

Wtf? Will you ppl stop bringing these completely off-topic statements. We are talking about ****ing cows, not for pedophilia, mass murder, or any other issue considered moraly wrong.

Our 'human rights'... that's cultural conditioning. Our views against human on human murder... that's cultural conditioning. Everything you can think of, is cultural conditioning with us... so why do you selectively ignore one of them, and use that as your argument, that it's not wrong simply because it is our conditioning?

No, we are ignoring ALL cultural conditioning. Screwing cows is okay cause you're not hurting them. Using the EXACT SAME LOGIC, I can argue that murder is wrong because you are ending someone's life. There is absolutely no double standard here.

If we start saying things like "murder is wrong because that's human conditioning and thats what I grew up getting taught" we are in serious ****ing trouble peoples, might as well go around wearing shirts that say "I'm a Tool". Watch what you think because here cummah Big Brother.

society is built upon a massive framework of new ideas, preexisting ideas, and firmly held beliefs. There are people who build onto it and there are others who chip away at it, both for good or ill, to set the standard for what is acceptable. To be accepting of beastiality would undermine A LOT of the preconieved notions about what it means to be a member of society as a whole. That is why i think it is a very slippery slope.

K, I guess il leave you alone since you seem to have got it all figured out, Mr. Aristotle. Im sure that once we think screwing cows is okay we're bound to a anarchist revolution.

 

[Ikerous]

society is built upon a massive framework of new ideas, preexisting ideas, and firmly held beliefs. There are people who build onto it and there are others who chip away at it, both for good or ill, to set the standard for what is acceptable. To be accepting of beastiality would undermine A LOT of the preconieved notions about what it means to be a member of society as a whole. That is why i think it is a very slippery slope.

Besides do you want to see real life mirror the depths of the internet?

So basically you can't think of a single logical reason to be against cow sex so you're going into all this nonsense? Or do you have a logical reason? Cuz that's all I'm asking for.

 

[secret friend]

So basically you can't think of a single logical reason to be against cow sex so you're going into all this nonsense? Or do you have a logical reason? Cuz that's all I'm asking for.

The logical reason to be against cow sex is that humans are not programmed to feel sexually attracted to cows, and the few who are attracted to cows, are considered insane and shunned by our society (because they are probably insane). Accepting this type of behavior means that our society would have to accept other types of deviant behavior which noone wants to have to put up with.

 

[Raeven0]

but we can at least keep them from being abused as our own personal toys at every turn.

Ban pets.

The logical reason to be against cow sex is that humans are not programmed to feel sexually attracted to cows

That doesn't seem very logical

and the few who are attracted to cows, are considered insane and shunned by our society

Look up "argumentum ad populum"

(because they are probably insane)

A baseless assumption at best

Accepting this type of behavior means that our society would have to accept other types of deviant behavior

For instance

which noone wants to have to put up with.

Argumentum ad populum

I think of it as in the animals best interests.

Because you posit that sex would be anything but neutral to the animal

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Or do you have a logical reason? Cuz that's all I'm asking for.

The cow will kick you in the face, and you will die.
The cows owner will shoot you, and you will die
You could contract some weird disease, and you will die.
You will enjoy it too much and spend the majority of your life an outcast from society for your cow ****ing fetish, then you'll die.
You will return home as normal only to have your love life ruined (if people find out).
Umm...
That's all I got. Might have some different outcomes with different beasts.

 

[TheSomeone]

The logical reason to be against cow sex is that humans are not programmed to feel sexually attracted to cows, and the few who are attracted to cows, are considered insane and shunned by our society (because they are probably insane).

Programmed? Are you retarded?
Again, using the argument that "most ppl think its wrong so it must be wrong."

Accepting this type of behavior means that our society would have to accept other types of deviant behavior which noone wants to have to put up with.

No. It wouldn't mean that at all. What led you to that conclusion?

 

[secret friend]

Programmed? Are you retarded?
Again, using the argument that "most ppl think its wrong so it must be wrong."

you think that attraction is dictated by the logical part of the brain, don't you?

No, we have been evolutionarily programmed to feel attraction. Read a book on evolutionary psychology


If you have sex with cows you will die

that's the best argument against cow sex.

 

[DreadLord]

If you have sex with cows you will die

If you continue to use large text, Danimal will wtfpwn you.

 

[TheSomeone]

you think that attraction is dictated by the logical part of the brain, don't you?

No, we have been evolutionarily programmed to feel attraction. Read a book on evolutionary psychology

I'm not attracted to my hand, but I jack off now and then and I'm still alive.

You need to re-read whatever book you read on evolutionary psychology, cause you obviously didn't understand anything. Havin sex with a woman who cant carry my babies won't cause my death.

 

[Raziaar]

Ban pets.

I'm sorry, but that would be an irresponsible thing to do at this point in history. Our ancestors domesticated cats and dogs, etc. You do NOT let feral cats or dogs roam the countrysides where they are not common.

Not to mention domesticated animals have lost most of their natural survival instincts. Extinct very fast if we didn't keep them domesticated.

 

[TheSomeone]

I'm sorry, but that would be an irresponsible thing to do at this point in history. Our ancestors domesticated cats and dogs, etc. You do NOT let feral cats or dogs roam the countrysides where they are not common.

Not to mention domesticated animals have lost most of their natural survival instincts. Extinct very fast if we didn't keep them domesticated.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't serious.

 

[Soirjed]

Everyone just shut the **** up, disney says beastiality is ok.

 

[Raeven0]

I'm pretty sure he wasn't serious.

Theory: "It is improper to use animals as playthings for our own amusement."
Corollary: "It is improper to keep animals as pets except that said keeping is purely for the benefit of the pet, and no enjoyment is garnered from said keeping."

I was only serious insofar as Raziaar was.

 

[Raziaar]

Domesticated pets live a better life than they would trying to survive in the wild. Safety, food is always there(for most of them), etc etc.

 

[DreadLord]

Domesticated pets live a better life than they would trying to survive in the wild. Safety, food is always there(for most of them), etc etc.

Seriously man. Dancing cow. Avatar. Stat.

 

[Raeven0]

Domesticated pets live a better life than they would trying to survive in the wild. Safety, food is always there(for most of them), etc etc.

Does this mean:
"It is acceptable to use domesticated animals as playthings because they are treated better than they would be in the wild"
?

And can you see where I'm going with this?

 

[Raziaar]

Does this mean:
"It is acceptable to use domesticated animals as playthings because they are treated better than they would be in the wild"
?

And can you see where I'm going with this?

Pets are not a take, take, relationship. It is a given and take. A well taken care of pet is given food, kept healthy... and given amusement. Animals for sex only gives amusement to one party, selfishly.

 

[TheSomeone]

As far as i was concerned I never said it was okay to mistreat your pets, i just said it was okay to **** a big animal like a cow cause they can't feel shit.

 

[jocky68]

PLEASE close this thread. Why are people even talking about shagging animals? whats going on for feck sake? If your interested in this you need to be shot.

 

[secret friend]

I'm not attracted to my hand, but I jack off now and then and I'm still alive.

If you don't feel any attraction for a cow, why would you want to have sex with it? For pleasure only?


Men should be allowed to stick their dicks in any hole they want. I get it now.

****ing a cow would be so disgusting no human being in his right mind would find it enjoyable. I wouldn't, would you? Not to mention that the ass of a cow is probably so loose you won't feel a thing.

 

[Raeven0]

Animals for sex only gives amusement to one party, selfishly.

It could just as easily be argued that animals for fun give amusement to one party, selfishly.

PLEASE close this thread. Why are people even talking about shagging animals? whats going on for feck sake? If your interested in this you need to be shot.

Thanks, we appreciate your opinions
Especially when they're bigoted, stupidly presented, and pay no attention to any logical points made in the thread

 

[Raziaar]

What you need to explain to me... is why you ignore the taboo of society on this particular thing, yet follow the others, like not killing or stealing, etc? Those have just as much logic as your whole screwing cows should be accepted, thing.

I mean... animals in nature fight and kill each other all the time. Why shouldn't we? And if we don't... because we have laws against it, and it is a severe taboo, then why ignore those laws and taboo against the beastiality?

 

[Ikerous]

What you need to explain to me... is why you ignore the taboo of society on this particular thing, yet follow the others, like not killing or stealing, etc? Those have just as much logic as your whole screwing cows should be accepted, thing.

As long as I'm not harming anyone I'm not donig anything wrong. Bestiality doesn't harm anyone. Killing and stealing do.

 

[TheSomeone]

Men should be allowed to stick their dicks in any hole they want.

Yah... they should... as long as it doesnt hurt anyone.

I get it now.

Gj knghenry.

What you need to explain to me... is why you ignore the taboo of society on this particular thing, yet follow the others, like not killing or stealing, etc? Those have just as much logic as your whole screwing cows should be accepted, thing.

I already did.

Screwing cows is okay cause you're not hurting them. Using the EXACT SAME LOGIC, I can argue that murder is wrong because you are ending someone's life. There is absolutely no double standard here.


If we start saying things like "murder is wrong because that's human conditioning and thats what I grew up getting taught" we are in serious ****ing trouble peoples, might as well go around wearing shirts that say "I'm a Tool". Watch what you think because here cummah Big Brother.

 

[99.vikram]

PLEASE close this thread. Why are people even talking about shagging animals? whats going on for feck sake? If your interested in this you need to be shot.

There's one in every thread...

 

[Raeven0]

What you need to explain to me... is why you ignore the taboo of society on this particular thing, yet follow the others, like not killing or stealing, etc? Those have just as much logic as your whole screwing cows should be accepted, thing.

I don't like killing and stealing because they are harmful to people, not because they are socially taboo. I have no regard for the things society doesn't like; generally, all of my ideas are based on hours of logical deliberation over facts, which facts do not include "what everyone else thinks"

I mean... animals in nature fight and kill each other all the time. Why shouldn't we?

We do, unfortunately

then why ignore those laws and taboo against the beastiality?

All authority should be questioned

 

[TheSomeone]

I mean... animals in nature fight and kill each other all the time.

Doesn't make it right.

 

[Raziaar]

Doesn't make it right.

Doesn't make it wrong either. That's just our 'morals' saying it is wrong. Prove to me how it is wrong otherwise.

 

[Jack_Karverboy]

The cow doesn't want to be eaten just like it doesn't want you to have sex with it, but atleast eating it is natural.

 

[Raziaar]

Or let me give another example. White collar crooks imbezzling money doesn't hurt people physically... so why don't we allow that? Sure, it goes against our laws... but laws are meant to be questioned, and if its not hurting anybody, it's not so bad.

 

[TheSomeone]

Doesn't make it wrong either. That's just our 'morals' saying it is wrong. Prove to me how it is wrong otherwise.

Yeah, morals make it wrong, by but the same morals that make it wrong make beastiality right.

Or let me give another example. White collar crooks imbezzling money doesn't hurt people physically... so why don't we allow that? Sure, it goes against our laws... but laws are meant to be questioned, and if its not hurting anybody, it's not so bad.

It still hurts ppl, beastiality doesnt hurt anyone or anything physically morally or financially.

 

[Raeven0]

White collar crooks imbezzling money doesn't hurt people physically...

You make too complex.

Let's use a simpler example that embodies the same spirit (really).

I wander up to the Rockefeller estate and take $1000 from a chest, safe, yacht, or whatever they store money in. For the good Mr Rockefeller, $1000 is pocket change that he would hardly mind losing. Was it wrong to steal the money?

In general, without reasonable cause, it is questionable, indecent, improper, and/or wrong to take someone else's stuff as your own.

Why? Because violating Mr Rockefeller's property is almost as bad as violating Mr Rockefeller himself. Why? Because a person's property, no matter how small and meaningless, is nonetheless a part of him and should be treated as such.

Now, in our specific example: Mr Rockefeller probably doesn't care because he's so insanely rich, but I oppose the taking of his money on the aforementioned principle, regardless of the relative value of his money.

And now, this post in five words: "It's not nice to steal."

 

[Raziaar]

Would you people apply the same logic of the cow, to the elephant? Elephants, what we already KNOW, have intelligence that rivals that of great apes... which are very intelligent. Just because they may not feel it, doesn't mean they wouldn't feel significant discomfort. Just because people stick their arms up there for artificial insimination or whatever, doesn't mean they don't feel discomfort.

How do you know what is going on in the mind of large creatures who's intelligence may rival our own, except they cannot communicate with us? Elephants are right up there with dolphins and great apes, and cows are not very far behind.

I just don't see how you people lord your humanity over these creatures like this. It's a disgrace to humankind. We have the intelligence to be beyond this, but apparently not.

If you wanted sexual contact, heat up a watermelon or apple pie or something. Sheesh. Get off that way, not on living, breathing animals who deserve our respect.

 

[TheSomeone]

Would you people apply the same logic of the cow, to the elephant?

You seem to be absolutely bent on changing subjects everytime single post. Maybe its because your argument is completely insubstantial.

Really though I'd like to see anyone manage to **** an elephant. Why would we even talk about them? Focus raziaar, focus.

How do you know what is going on in the mind of large creatures who's intelligence may rival our own, except they cannot communicate with us? Elephants are right up there with dolphins and great apes, and cows are not very far behind.

I just don't see how you people lord your humanity over these creatures like this. It's a disgrace to humankind. We have the intelligence to be beyond this, but apparently not.

Unless you're an active member of the PETA who goes protesting against slaughterhouses, you can shut up right now before digging yourself a 6 foot hole.

If you wanted sexual contact, heat up a watermelon or apple pie or something. Sheesh. Get off that way, not on living, breathing animals who deserve our respect.

Now you act like we're actually going out and raping cows. Respect? Animals don't have a clue what respect even means. Stop lording your human notions and applying it to animals.

 

[Raeven0]

How do you know what is going on in the mind of large creatures who's intelligence may rival our own, except they cannot communicate with us? Elephants are right up there with dolphins and great apes, and cows are not very far behind.

There are no bovine philosophers.

Now, is there reasonable evidence that cows either do or do not garner some significant psychological pain from being sex'd up? To my knowledge, no. So your best bet, if you want to sway me, is to argue for erring on the side of safety; because I am much more likely to say that your cow, a tiny-minded quadruped who would be hard pressed to understand the concept of numbers, let alone socialism and capitalism, is incapable of psychological discomfort than that he is capable of it.

That was really long. Let's try again: "Cows are more likely dumb than smart."

I just don't see how you people lord your humanity over these creatures like this. It's a disgrace to humankind.

Animals are lumbering hunks of hydrocarbons. Proteins and amino acids and electrical energy. I have a consciousness, and that is why I lord.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

So has anyone brought up the converse situation of animals ****ing people?
I've heard tale of someone getting an ass or vagina ripped open by a horse, I've seen a rottweiler mount and do a girl with a bag on her head, just bangin away.
My friends little pincer/chihuahua mix tries to hump my arms and legs. I'm sure most people have experienced that.

Do you think animals have the right to decide what to ****? Do you think they know what they're doing?

 

[Flyingdebris]

thats it i give up arguing in this thread it is quite evident this is going to go back and forth until locked at some indeterminate future point.

congrats, you guys win, your prize is a free cow