Israel V Hezbollah?

[15357]

#1. There is no question mark.

#2. "bcos they're affraid to moveup in life or they are thick headed with religious crap!" would equal the opinion. Already having 2 choices means that you have already formulated an opinion on why there is violence in the middle east, and therefore would mean that you asked only to argue with the supposed answer.

 

[DaMaN]

Why is it Violence always erupts in the Mid east, is it bcos they're affraid to moveup in life or they are thick headed with religious crap!

A opinion disguised as a question that is not even a question.

Actually, 15357 is correct here, the root question "Why does violence always errupt in the Middle East" has been combined with an opinionionated sub-query "They are either afraid to move up in life or they are thick headed with religious crap". Also, this question is not technically a question, it is a statement, as you do not have a question mark (?) at the end of it.

As for your intended question, "Why does violence always errupt in the Middle East", violence errupts everywhere in the world, the Middle East is no exception. Look anywhere in the world and you're guarenteed to find some form of violence. In the Middle East, a lot of these conflicts are caused by foreign intervention.

As for your sub-question: "They are either afraid to move up in life or they are thick headed with religious crap". This seems to me to be ridiculous:
"Every human being wants to move up in life, except those in the Middle East." This is obviously untrue, it doesn't matter where you are born, most people want to move up in life.
"People in the Middle East are thick headed with religious crap". And people in other places aren't? See http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110024

My point is that people everywhere deserve to be treated as equals. Saying that "just because people live in the Middle East means they are thick headed religious fanatics" is wrong. People in the Middle East are no different from people here. Their curcumstances may differ from ours, but they are just as human as we are.

-DaMaN

 

[Ome_Vince]

Its freekin incredible the Hezbollah "apologises" for the 2 arabic children they killed.
Like i said a long time ago, its pure religious, nothing more. Those arabs from Nazareth were Israeli...
Just because they're muslim Hezbollah apologises. Go ask a muslim in Israel if it even sympathises for this crap and you'll get a harsh "NO!".
(And yes, i've asked when i was there).

As for the Hezbollah ****s, i hope they die a shamefull death for causing this.
And all the people putting the blame on Israel, it was Hezbollah who killed 8 Israeli soldiers, kidnapped 2, and started shelling Israeli towns even before Israel had any response.
It is Hezbollah who started shelling civilians, and it is Hezbollah who deliberatly tries to kill as many civilians as they can.
All this unprovoked...
Just because their weapons suck so they cant kill thousands doesnt make it less brutal.
They control the entire south of Lebannon, have seats in the parliament and have outposts in residential areas.
Nobody is able to disarm them (and Syria + Iran will make sure that doesnt happen).

Hezbollah needs to be removed, only that will bring a chance for peace in the region.
Also every cry of the Lebananize to disarm them is countered by threats of a civil war like the last bloody one in the 80's.
Lebannon is litterly being held hostage by the Iranian sponsored and Syrian backed Hezbollah.

Whatever Israel's ****ed up responses are, with the removal of Hezbollah and Hamas, the region has a chance for peace.

 

[Solaris]

It's very easy to put these things down to religion.

That's what people said about northean irealand- they're just fighting becuase of religion, but when you think about it, when a protestant teenager throws a brick through a catholic windows, it's unlikely that he's thinking 'transubstanciation my arse!'.

 

[Ome_Vince]

No, he's probably thinking "****ing catholics".

 

[Saketi]

'transubstanciation my arse!'.

Ahe'm transubstantiation

 

[Nemesis6]

Well, the Israelis haven't gotten Nasrallah yet, but they got his house. They also got Mahmoud "The Wart" Zahar's house. Too bad they didn't get him. But as Abdel Rantisi found out, Karma catches up with you. In the form of an Israeli gunship! By the way: Run, Tisi, run! :bounce: :cheese:

 

[Tr0n]

You see the bastards bombed 3 Lebonese hospitals, just read it in todays guardian... that's disgraceful.

Really? Wow...that's ****ed up.

 

[Tr0n]

Double post!

New Stratfor newsletter I think ya'll will find interesting.

Red Alert: The Battle Joined

The ground war has begun. Several Israeli brigades now appear to be operating between the Lebanese border and the Litani River. According to reports, Hezbollah forces are dispersed in multiple bunker complexes and are launching rockets from these and other locations.

Hezbollah's strategy appears to be threefold. First, force Israel into costly attacks against prepared fortifications. Second, draw Israeli troops as deeply into Lebanon as possible, forcing them to fight on extended supply lines. Third, move into an Iraqi-style insurgency from which Israel -- out of fear of a resumption of rocket attacks -- cannot withdraw, but which the Israelis also cannot endure because of extended long-term casualties. This appears to have been a carefully planned strategy, built around a threat to Israeli cities that Israel can't afford. The war has begun at Hezbollah's time and choosing.

Israel is caught between three strategic imperatives. First, it must end the threat to Israeli cities, which must involve the destruction of Hezbollah's launch capabilities south of the Litani River. Second, it must try to destroy Hezbollah's infrastructure, which means it must move into the Bekaa Valley and as far as the southern suburbs of Beirut. Third, it must do so in such a way that it is not dragged into a long-term, unsustainable occupation against a capable insurgency.

Hezbollah has implemented its strategy by turning southern Lebanon into a military stronghold, consisting of well-designed bunkers that serve both as fire bases and launch facilities for rockets. The militants appear to be armed with anti-tank weapons and probably anti-aircraft weapons, some of which appear to be of American origin, raising the question of how they were acquired. Hezbollah wants to draw Israel into protracted fighting in this area in order to inflict maximum casualties and to change the psychological equation for both military and political reasons.

Israelis historically do not like to fight positional warfare. Their tendency has been to bypass fortified areas, pushing the fight to the rear in order to disrupt logistics, isolate fortifications and wait for capitulation. This has worked in the past. It is not clear that it will work here. The great unknown is the resilience of Hezbollah's fighters. To this point, there is no reason to doubt it. Israel could be fighting the most resilient and well-motivated opposition force in its history. But the truth is that neither Israel nor Hezbollah really knows what performance will be like under pressure.

Simply occupying the border-Litani area will not achieve any of Israel's strategic goals. Hezbollah still would be able to use rockets against Israel. And even if, for Hezbollah, this area is lost, its capabilities in the Bekaa Valley and southern Beirut will remain intact. Therefore, a battle that focuses solely on the south is not an option for Israel, unless the Israelis feel a defeat here will sap Hezbollah's will to resist. We doubt this to be the case.

The key to the campaign is to understand that Hezbollah has made its strategic decisions. It will not be fighting a mobile war. Israel has lost the strategic initiative: It must fight when Hezbollah has chosen and deal with Hezbollah's challenge. However, given this, Israel does have an operational choice. It can move in a sequential fashion, dealing first with southern Lebanon and then with other issues. It can bypass southern Lebanon and move into the rear areas, returning to southern Lebanon when it is ready. It can attempt to deal with southern Lebanon in detail, while mounting mobile operations in the Bekaa Valley, in the coastal regions and toward south Beirut, or both at the same time.

There are resource and logistical issues involved. Moving simultaneously on all three fronts will put substantial strains on Israel's logistical capability. An encirclement westward on the north side of the Litani, followed by a move toward Beirut while the southern side of the Litani is not secured, poses a serious challenge in re-supply. Moving into the Bekaa means leaving a flank open to the Syrians. We doubt Syria will hit that flank, but then, we don't have to live with the consequences of an intelligence failure. Israel will be sending a lot of force on that line if it chooses that method. Again, since many roads in south Lebanon will not be secure, that limits logistics.

Israel is caught on the horns of a dilemma. Hezbollah has created a situation in which Israel must fight the kind of war it likes the least -- attritional, tactical operations against prepared forces -- or go to the war it prefers, mobile operations, with logistical constraints that make these operations more difficult and dangerous. Moreover, if it does this, it increases the time during which Israeli cities remain under threat. Given clear failures in appreciating Hezbollah's capabilities, Israel must take seriously the possibility that Hezbollah has longer-ranged, anti-personnel rockets that it will use while under attack.

Israel has been trying to break the back of Hezbollah resistance in the south through air attack, special operations and probing attacks. This clearly hasn't worked thus far. That does not mean it won't work, as Israel applies more force to the problem and starts to master the architecture of Hezbollah's tactical and operational structure; however, Israel can't count on a rapid resolution of that problem.

The Israelis have by now thought the problem through. They don't like operational compromises -- preferring highly focused solutions at the center of gravity of an enemy. Hezbollah has tried to deny Israel a center of gravity and may have succeeded, forcing Israel into a compromise position. Repeated assaults against prepared positions are simply not something the Israelis can do, because they cannot afford casualties. They always have preferred mobile encirclement or attacks at the center of gravity of a defensive position. But at this moment, viewed from the outside, this is not an option.

An extended engagement in southern Lebanon is the least likely path, in our opinion. More likely -- and this is a guess -- is a five-part strategy:

1. Insert airmobile and airborne forces north of the Litani to seal the rear of Hezbollah forces in southern Lebanon. Apply air power and engineering forces to reduce the fortifications, and infantry to attack forces not in fortified positions. Bottle them up, and systematically reduce the force with limited exposure to the attackers.

2. Secure roads along the eastern flank for an armored thrust deep into the Bekaa Valley to engage the main Hezbollah force and infrastructure there. This would involve a move from Qiryat Shimona north into the Bekaa, bypassing the Litani to the west, and would probably require sending airmobile and special forces to secure the high ground. It also would leave the right flank exposed to Syria.

3. Use air power and special forces to undermine Hezbollah capabilities in the southern Beirut area. The Israelis would consider a move into this area after roads through southern Lebanon are cleared and Bekaa relatively secured, moving into the area, only if absolutely necessary, on two axes of attack.

4. Having defeated Hezbollah in detail, withdraw under a political settlement shifting defense responsibility to the Lebanese government.

5. Do all of this while the United States is still able to provide top cover against diplomatic initiatives that will create an increasingly difficult international environment.

There can be many variations on this theme, but these elements are inevitable:

1. Hezbollah cannot be defeated without entering the Bekaa Valley, at the very least.

2. At some point, resistance in southern Lebanon must be dealt with, regardless of the cost.

3. Rocket attacks against northern Israel and even Tel Aviv must be accepted while the campaign unfolds.

4. The real challenge will come when Israel tries to withdraw.

No. 4 is the real challenge. Destruction of Hezbollah's infrastructure does not mean annihilation of the force. If Israel withdraws, Hezbollah or a successor organization will regroup. If Israel remains, it can wind up in the position the United States is in Iraq. This is exactly what Hezbollah wants. So, Israel can buy time, or Israel can occupy and pay the cost. One or the other.

The other solution is to shift the occupational burden to another power that is motivated to prevent the re-emergence of an anti-Israeli military force -- as that is what Hezbollah has become. The Lebanese government is the only possible alternative, but not a particularly capable one, reflecting the deep rifts in Lebanon.

Israel has one other choice, which is to extend the campaign to defeat Syria as well. Israel can do this, but the successor regime to Syrian President Bashar al Assad likely would be much worse for Israel than al Assad has been. Israel can imagine occupying Syria; it can't do it. Syria is too big and the Arabs have learned from the Iraqis how to deal with an occupation. Israel cannot live with a successor to al Assad and it cannot take control of Syria. It will have to live with al Assad. And that means an occupation of Lebanon would always be hostage to Syrian support for insurgents.

Hezbollah has dealt Israel a difficult hand. It has thought through the battle problem as well as the political dimension carefully. Somewhere in this, there has been either an Israeli intelligence failure or a political failure to listen to intelligence. Hezbollah's capabilities have posed a problem for Israel that allowed Hezbollah to start a war at a time and in a way of its choosing. The inquest will come later in Israel. And Hezbollah will likely be shattered regardless of its planning. The correlation of forces does not favor it. But if it forces Israel not only to defeat its main force but also to occupy, Hezbollah will have achieved its goals.

 

[Kangy]

Hezbollah are ****ing annoying, UN forces should be sent to capture or kill them to be honest.

 

[Saketi]

hezballah have fuked up a country, well done to the terrorists...Again!

 

[CptStern]

500,000 homeless and over 320 civilians killed ...not by hezbollah bombs

 

[Kangy]

Hezbollah sparked though, they should know that Israel is ridiculously aggressive. They do to be honest, they're just completely irresponsible.

 

[Korgoth]

You know, someone said to me the other day, "The only reason America supports Israel like we do, is because they are the only people in that region that don't want to see us all dead."

My response - "If we didn't support Israel like we do, they'd be the only ones in that area that wanted to see us dead."

 

[Kangy]

I personally support Israel because I believe they have just as much right to the land as anywhere else, and where ever else the Jewish people go they seem to get maliciously attacked in the end. I realise it probably won't happen in the modern world but it has happened in the past, and the world owes them for that. As well as that, the Muslim nations keep trying to destroy them, which is ridiculous.

 

[Saketi]

500,000 homeless and over 320 civilians killed ...not by hezbollah bombs

but thats not the point Hezbollah started this war, as ive said b4 they came into Israel and kidnapped soldiers & fired rockets into Israel. Therefore Israel had enough & attacked Hezbollah. But as cowardly as Hezbollah is they hide amungst civi's. If Hezbollah had far more superier fire power, the death toll would be more on the Israel side than in Lebanon.

 

[Bait]

Why has no one been intelligent enough to question this term "kidnapping"? Who the hell has ever "kidnapped" a soldier?

 

[Bob_Marley]

500,000 homeless and over 320 civilians killed ...not by hezbollah bombs

On the flip side Hezbollah did enter Isreali terretory and ambush an IDF patrol to start the whole damn mess. However, the Isrealis know that their air and arty strikes almost certainly wont hit Hezbollah positions and will only damage civilians. As far as we know, infact, around Hezbollah fighters and thier pet dog have been killed by the air and arty attacks.

I'd personally say that yes, the Isrealis should go after Hezbollah but this is not the way to get thier soldiers back.

hezballah have fuked up a country, well done to the terrorists...Again!

So did the IRA and those who attacked British troops and civilians in Palestine, but last time I checked the US supported them.

Hezbollah are ****ing annoying, UN forces should be sent to capture or kill them to be honest.

Wont happen, the one thing the Isrealis hate more than Insergents from Palestine/Lebanon/whereever is the UN getting involoved on what they see as thier turf.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Hezbollah are ****ing annoying, UN forces should be sent to capture or kill them to be honest.

http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=69500

 

[CptStern]

how would the world have reacted had the UK bombed dublin every time the IRA killed/kidnapped a british soldier?

 

[Bob_Marley]

how would the world have reacted had the UK bombed dublin every time the IRA killed/kidnapped a british soldier?

Please point to the exact place in my post where I said the Isreal was justifed to bomb civilian areas? Oh yeah, I didnt!

I said:

I'd personally say that yes, the Isrealis should go after Hezbollah but this is not the way to get thier soldiers back.

now, to me that says that the Isrealis should take a rather less "Lets bomb the **** out of Lebanon even though we know the chances of doing any real damage to Hezbollah is practically zero" and actually either negosiate or use rather more precision methods to root out the Hezbollah fighters and get their soldiers back.

 

[CptStern]

why would you think I was addressing you specifically?

 

[Bob_Marley]

why would you think I was addressing you specifically?

Well, that would be becuase of the references to the IRA. However, if your intention was not to adress me then I gladly retract my direct addressiveness (new word FTW!) to you and will leave my previos post merely to clear up any confusion that the one prior to it may have left.

 

[Ome_Vince]

how would the world have reacted had the UK bombed dublin every time the IRA killed/kidnapped a british soldier?

Your forgetting the unprovoked shelling of Israeli towns
Its more like: killing 8 soldiers, kidnapping 2 and shelling Israeli towns (this all before Israel responded).
I doubt any country would negotiate after that.

O, and thats also not to mention Hezbollah's seats in the parliament (23 out of 128), its total control over the south of Lebannon which is not able to disarm Hezbollah (as demanded by UN resolution 1559).
If lebannon attempts to disarm Hezbollah, it gets another big civil war on its hands.


Hezbollah is not only the aggressor, it is also a constant blockade for peace, even within the Palestinian-Israeli conflict:

On February 9, 2005 Palestinian Authority officials blamed Hezbollah for attempting to derail the recent truce between Israel and Palestine by offering increased funding and bonuses to the militant cells it operates in Israel for any attack they carry out.

It also has funded multiple suicide attacks performed by extreme militant Palestinian organisations al-Aqsa Intifada.

Its mass demonstrations to support the Syrian occupation of Lebannon, (also in violation of UN resolution 1559), eventually pressure by hundreds of thousands of Lebaneze and the UN got Syria to withdraw against Hezbollah's wishes.

Its extremism holds Lebannon in a stranglehold, and even though i think Israel's response is out of proportion (and probably wont even work), a part of me is "glad" (and hoping) Hezbollah might end.

O, and this is not the first time:

On November 21, 2005 Hezbollah launched a heavy attack along the entire border with Israel which was intended to provide tactical cover for a squad of Hezbollah special forces attempting to abduct Israeli troops from the Israeli side of the village of Al-Ghajar

On December 27, 2005, BM-21 Grad rockets fired from Hezbollah territory smashed into houses in the northern Israeli city of Kiryat Shmona wounding three people.

Thats just 2 examples, in which afterwards the UN demanded Lebannon to take action against Hezbollah and control its territories.

Now let me explain my intentions with this post, so we dont run around in circles

-I disapprove of the Israeli offensive because i dont believe it will be succesfull and there are too many civilian casualties.

-I blame Hezbollah fully as aggressor and responsible for this escalation especially considering they tried it before (this is not the first time, its the big drop that floods the bucket). (as did the G8 = The G8 asked that Israel act with restraint but laid the blame for the conflict on Hezbollah)

-Hezbollah's is the war-puppet of Iran and Syria, and with its removal long-term peace has a chance.

 

[Saketi]

I cannot wait until any GOD is abolished of speaking to on this Earth. As it proves the terror groups go in the name of Allah, lol BRAINWASHED..http://www.israel-wat.com/parent_eng.htm

 

[Saketi]

Your forgetting the unprovoked shelling of Israeli towns
Its more like: killing 8 soldiers, kidnapping 2 and shelling Israeli towns (this all before Israel responded).
I doubt any country would negotiate after that.

O, and thats also not to mention Hezbollah's seats in the parliament (23 out of 128), its total control over the south of Lebannon which is not able to disarm Hezbollah (as demanded by UN resolution 1559).
If lebannon attempts to disarm Hezbollah, it gets another big civil war on its hands.


Hezbollah is not only the aggressor, it is also a constant blockade for peace, even within the Palestinian-Israeli conflict:


It also has funded multiple suicide attacks performed by extreme militant Palestinian organisations al-Aqsa Intifada.

Its mass demonstrations to support the Syrian occupation of Lebannon, (also in violation of UN resolution 1559), eventually pressure by hundreds of thousands of Lebaneze and the UN got Syria to withdraw against Hezbollah's wishes.

Its extremism holds Lebannon in a stranglehold, and even though i think Israel's response is out of proportion (and probably wont even work), a part of me is "glad" (and hoping) Hezbollah might end.

O, and this is not the first time:




Thats just 2 examples, in which afterwards the UN demanded Lebannon to take action against Hezbollah and control its territories.

Now let me explain my intentions with this post, so we dont run around in circles

-I disapprove of the Israeli offensive because i dont believe it will be succesfull and there are too many civilian casualties.

-I blame Hezbollah fully as aggressor and responsible for this escalation especially considering they tried it before (this is not the first time, its the big drop that floods the bucket). (as did the G8 = The G8 asked that Israel act with restraint but laid the blame for the conflict on Hezbollah)

-Hezbollah's is the war-puppet of Iran and Syria, and with its removal long-term peace has a chance.

The quicker we kill Hezbollah from the earth the sooner not just that part of the country but the rest of the world can live again in peace & have freedom.

PS type hezbollah into Google and all u get back is hatred pictures, proves they are cowards, training children as soldiers. I bet most of the dead they said in Lebanon are Hezbollah operatives.

This is what Hezbollah do..http://www.veteranen.info/~cedarsouthlebanon/hizbullah/demo.jpg

Brainwashed kids dont know right from wrong, instead are forced to take orders from a mental case, who thinks god tells him to do things.

 

[gick]

If it was up to me, the UN should form a sort of strike team made up of crack soldiers of all races and religions, to fight teh evils of terrorism. You could give it a name to reflect its diversity, like Rainbow or something....

 

[Solaris]

Dick ****ing chavez could solve any god damn problem.

 

[Bait]

The quicker we kill Hezbollah from the earth the sooner not just that part of the country but the rest of the world can live again in peace & have freedom.

If you are naive enough to believe this, it is you who is utterly brainwashed.

Don't ignore the role Israel is playing in this. Only Israel could break international law so flagrantly and still recieve the moral support to eliminate civilian targets. Shutting this out of your perception just leaves you looking like a biased fool unwilling to accept the blatant attrocities commited under Israeli leadership.

 

[DaMaN]

If you are naive enough to believe this, it is you who is utterly brainwashed.

Don't ignore the role Israel is playing in this. Only Israel could break international law so flagrantly and still recieve the moral support to eliminate civilian targets. Shutting this out of your perception just leaves you looking like a biased fool unwilling to accept the blatant attrocities commited under Israeli leadership.

Well said.

-DaMaN

 

[15357]

This is what Hezbollah do..http://www.veteranen.info/~cedarsout...ullah/demo.jpg

I don't see how that makes them evil. They're carrying fake rifles, with uniforms on. Most likely a drill for reserves.

 

[99.vikram]

Many wartorn countries train kids to join the Army. It's not right, but what choice do you have when your military isn't strong enough?

 

[Ome_Vince]

If you are naive enough to believe this, it is you who is utterly brainwashed.

Don't ignore the role Israel is playing in this. Only Israel could break international law so flagrantly and still recieve the moral support to eliminate civilian targets. Shutting this out of your perception just leaves you looking like a biased fool unwilling to accept the blatant attrocities commited under Israeli leadership.

Please explain how you fight/defend from an opponent who wishes you to be exterminated, and who fights in tactics and ways breaking so many international laws, it looks like we're back in the stone age, without breaking any international law.
An opponent who abuses the Geneva Convention, smeering everything on Israel while shitting all over it by mixing armed forces with women and children (civilians).
Who attacks in all forms from all sides dressing up like civilians, targetting civilians.

For all you Israeli critics, please post so called "advice" on how Israel should handle daily terror and religious hatred (note, no laws must be broken)
This is going to be interesting.....

Best quote:

On Sunday morning, February 22, 1948, in anticipation of Israel's
independence, a triple truck bomb was detonated by Arab terrorists on
Ben Yehuda Street, in what was then the Jewish section of Jerusalem.
Fifty-four people were killed, and hundreds were wounded. Thus, it is
obvious that Arab terrorism is caused not by the "desperation" of
"occupation", but by the VERY THOUGHT of a Jewish state

 

[Solaris]

The quicker we kill Hezbollah from the earth the sooner not just that part of the country but the rest of the world can live again in peace & have freedom.

Lol

PS type hezbollah into Google and all u get back is hatred pictures, proves they are cowards, training children as soldiers. I bet most of the dead they said in Lebanon are Hezbollah operatives.

Google results are proof these days?

Brainwashed kids dont know right from wrong, instead are forced to take orders from a mental case, who thinks god tells him to do things.

Like American soldiers who think they are in Iraq for revenge and have to do what George Bush tells them too and he thinks god tells him what to do...


Lololol

 

[15357]

Many wartorn countries train kids to join the Army. It's not right, but what choice do you have when your military isn't strong enough?

Even non-wartorn countries train kids for the military, as reserve officers and/or future full-time officers.

 

[Canadian Gunner]

Even non-wartorn countries train kids for the military, as reserve officers and/or future full-time officers.

What do you think G.I. Joe toys were for?

 

[15357]

Target practice?

 

[Canadian Gunner]

Target practice?

I was thinking more along the lines of showing kids that the military is fun. You've got to start early (just like in religion). Good answer though.

 

[Saketi]

If you are naive enough to believe this, it is you who is utterly brainwashed.

Don't ignore the role Israel is playing in this. Only Israel could break international law so flagrantly and still recieve the moral support to eliminate civilian targets. Shutting this out of your perception just leaves you looking like a biased fool unwilling to accept the blatant attrocities commited under Israeli leadership.

Sos mate but your the blind one, did u not see BBC Deadline London this morning, The Hezbollah are firing rocket from Hospitals & civilian areas in Lebanon, therfor cowardly cannot do it from there own safe haven, resulting in the Israel's bombing the area where the rockets coming from causing collateral damage to various civilian buildings.

The group's armed wing was created to fight Israeli forces that invaded Lebanon in 1982 (and later, U.S. troops sent as peacekeepers). A Hezbollah suicide bombing killed 241 Marines in October 1983, prompting the U.S. to withdraw its forces. yeh i think ive made my point, Hezbollah is not there for peace but destruction. Maybe if u looke don the news once in a while & read abit of background info on Hezballah your wouldn't be so blinded.

 

[Solaris]

Sos mate but your the blind one, did u not see BBC Deadline London this morning, The Hezbollah are firing rocket from Hospitals & civilian areas in Lebanon, therfor cowardly cannot do it from there own safe haven, resulting in the Israel's bombing the area where the rockets coming from causing collateral damage to various civilian buildings.

Provide a source.