Understanding females - Hl2.net verison

[Kaptain H]

You can always tell the actual women because they'll announce that they're women. It's very important they let guys know that OH MY GOD THERE ARE WOMEN HERE THERE ARE WOMEN POSTING ON THIS FORUM OH MY GOD.

I don't know. The most common way I'm able to recognize people as female online is by the fact that many of them will make their gender known by choosing overtly feminine-sounding names and avatars (x-box live and gaming sites especially). Which leaves those of us who don't go by HotHALOprincezz4U69 constantly assumed to be guys.

Which can be fine at first, but after being around for a while it gets awkward.

 

[Druckles]

No no...

A female would never say, "I am a male." They will either state that they are female (99.4% of the time) or say nothing of their gender (the rare .6%). She would be incapable of lying.

Anyone who states they're male on the internet would likely only say so in response to a female or on a female-dominated forum. What a man would be doing on a female-dominated forum is beyond me.

You're correct about point 3.

Anyone who is mum about the subject of gender is probably going to be male. They COULD be female, but NOT lesbian. A lesbian is going to tell you FIRST THING that they're a lesbian. Same with bisexuals. Their sexual preference is always divulged immediately.

From this, all I've summed up is the people most likely to divuldge sexual preferences or gender, are the minority.

So really we can't determine anything.

I think the girls who don't divuldge their gender are actually more common than those who do. You just notice the percentage that do more.
It's like the whole furry/anti-furry thing. You only notice the furries who annoy you, and yet there's far more people out there than you might think. Shippi is a perfect example of someone who doesn't flaunt her gender. I'm sure there's several members on these boards who don't flaunt it like Phobie.

Not mentioning any names.
Oh shi-

Edit: Wait, Kaptain H... you're female...??

 

[Darkside55]

I don't know. The most common way I'm able to recognize people as female online is by the fact that many of them will make their gender known by choosing overtly feminine-sounding names and avatars (x-box live and gaming sites especially).

Personally I don't see this as often. Women on the internet are just as likely to pick gender-neutral names. For example, you're the second woman I know who has "Captain" in their name. You're both artists too, interestingly enough.

I think the girls who don't divuldge their gender are actually more common than those who do. You just notice the percentage that do more.
It's like the whole furry/anti-furry thing. You only notice the furries who annoy you, and yet there's far more people out there than you might think.

Nope. You might hope so, but...nope. Point-six percent, Druckles. I have the reports.

Also, uh, it's unimportant to the conversation but I know how many people out there are furries. I've traversed the internet. I KNOW.

 

[Druckles]

Nope. You might hope so, but...nope. Point-six percent, Druckles. I have the reports.

I cannot argue with the reports... cannot argue...

Are you saying you can pick a furry from a crowded thread, then?

 

[Darkside55]

Well I'm not a mind reader. Yet.

But I know how large the furry community is.

I can often pick out a woman from a thread, though, even if they don't say anything about gender. I have rather good e-instincts.

 

[Kaptain H]

For example, you're the second woman I know who has "Captain" in their name. You're both artists too, interestingly enough.

Haha, we artists are such militant types.

 

[Druckles]

Or interstincts. Or 'e stinks...?

So can you identify every woman who's posted in this thread so far?

 

[Darkside55]

Haha, we artists are such militant types.

And also less likely to say what gender you are.

Most female artists I've spoken to don't say much about it. I used to draw online with this one girl--who I had an inkling was a girl the first time we talked--and she never brought it up, all the time we worked together. I confirmed my suspicions eventually, but I still referred to her in the ambiguous. If she didn't bring it up, I wasn't going to. I found it admirable.

Druckles:

Mmmmmaybe. Well, I know most of the females on this forum anyway, so.

 

[Druckles]

Most female artists I've spoken to don't say much about it. I used to draw online with this one girl--who I had an inkling was a girl the first time we talked--and she never brought it up, all the time we worked together. I confirmed my suspicions eventually, but I still referred to her in the ambiguous. If she didn't bring it up, I wasn't going to. I found it admirable.

Maybe she was scared of being treated differently for it?

 

[CptStern]

you're the second woman I know who has "Captain" in their name. You're both artists too, interestingly enough.

I'm not a woman, no matter how much I wish I had boobies

 

[Phobie]

I don't know. The most common way I'm able to recognize people as female online is by the fact that many of them will make their gender known by choosing overtly feminine-sounding names and avatars (x-box live and gaming sites especially). Which leaves those of us who don't go by HotHALOprincezz4U69 constantly assumed to be guys.

Which can be fine at first, but after being around for a while it gets awkward.

I know how that is. x-box live is the worst.

 

[Darkside55]

Maybe she was scared of being treated differently for it?

No, it struck me she was more of the type of person who didn't find it important to what she had to say. It was less, "I don't want to be outed as a female" and more "It doesn't matter that I am a female." Which is why I found it admirable.

I'm not a woman, no matter how much I wish I had boobies

Get fat, grow moobs.

 

[Shippi]

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[ComradeBadger]

tbh. Girls are easy

Oh, and confidence > all.. no matter how much a girl says she doesn't like overconfident boys

 

[Druckles]

I only bring my gender up if it's a forum I'm comfortable in, and there is a specific "male or female?" thread, and only then if I can be bothered. It tends to become pretty obvious when I post a self portrait or something like that anyway. I wouldn't lie if anyone asked, but I don't flaunt it. It doesn't matter to me who knows and who doesn't, since it shouldn't make a difference to how I'm regarded online.

I remembered you from back in 04/05 when I freqented the forums last. It wasn't until I came back a couple of months ago and you posted a picture of yourself, younger, that I found out. Was quite odd. Doesn't make a difference though. I guess it's just like finding out someone's age.

Edit:

no matter how much a girl says she doesn't like overconfident boys

Yeah... because that works. Because she still, quite obviously, likes you.

Edit edit: Wait.. ComradeBadger :O

 

[Dalamari]

This is not helplife2.net

 

[Druckles]

This is not helplife2.net

Psht, just say that to Willie.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

I just had a great idea.
A man attacks a woman and has sex with her without her consent! We could give it a fancy name or something, like rape or something.
Yeah, I know. Its great!

 

[Phobie]

I just had a great idea.
A man attacks a woman and has sex with her without her consent! We could give it a fancy name or something, like rape or something.
Yeah, I know. Its great!

Oh piggy, I lol'd.

 

[Stigmata]

I just had a great idea.
A man attacks a woman and has sex with her without her consent! We could give it a fancy name or something, like rape or something.
Yeah, I know. Its great!

You're a lot funnier than most people give you credit for.

 

[nurizeko]

Right. I was 18 when I first met my last ex.

She was nuts. She's kicked me out several times, had tantrums, LOCKED me out several times, twice she has left me at a train station in a country I am not native to (Japan, for reference), and yeah.

She's basically nuts, how someone so immature could also be stressed out so easily as well really puzzled me.

She eventually got to making me feel like crap, treating me less then a boyfriend, nagging (nothing un-known there). Not to mention she would try an annoy me by saying how much she liked this Singer from some band.

She drove me mad.



BUT.

For some stupid reason I still loved her. I loved her stupid heart melting smile, I loved being close to her, I loved that she was even dafter then me, I loved that despite my obvious failings, she accepted me, I loved it when I pressed her nose like a button and her face would scrunch up, I loved the feel of her hands in mine, her stupid stupid neck, her lips, her eyes, I loved the stupid bint.



So what is my point?.

My advice is that no-one can really give you advice. By all rights your meant to blunder into a relationship, and learn every stupid little thing about each other. If your just looking for dates and flings, then by all means, ask your more "worldly" mates, best place to start, dress smart, read information on how to pick women up.


BUT, if your looking for advice for how to hook up with someone and get a meaningful relationship out of it, my advice is, stop asking. No-one can tell you how to be yourself, only you know that.

Likewise no-one can tell you how to pick up "the one" because you probably don;t even know who the one is yet so how can we?.


If you wanna be more pro-active, then socialize more, develop some more confidence, don't be afraid to talk to girls just for the sake of a nice conversation. I know its said often and you might not know how to go about it, but while your looking, try and not worry so much about looking.

Just be yourself, perhaps a slightly more confident socializing self, but yourself nether the less.



Finally, its not a race, there is no rush to bag yourself some ass. Everyone has their own way, some guys feel the need to date a new woman every night and have sex often, some other guys maybe like long steady relationships that aren't about humping like rabbits (though its pretty fun anyway...).


As a guy on the other side from you, I can tell you this, after all the trouble you will realize that its just not as important as you think it is now. Sex is just sex, and hey, a long term relationship creates good memories, but thats just what they are, and you don't need to have a partner to validate your existence.

And when your meant to meet "the one", it'll happen, and you'll probably notice it didn't require all that dating advice mumbo jumbo at all.

Relationships should be important because of the people in them, not because you feel you are obliged to have one.



Last but not least, I fully agree, keep yourself looking smart and clean goes without saying.

Best of luck.

 

[Darkside55]

I was about to completely rail on you for being a complete pushover pussy, but then I read, "my last ex." I do hope it was you who ended that relationship and not the other way around.

 

[Druckles]

She was nuts. She's kicked me out several times, had tantrums, LOCKED me out several times, twice she has left me at a train station in a country I am not native to (Japan, for reference), and yeah.

She's basically nuts, how someone so immature could also be stressed out so easily as well really puzzled me.

She eventually got to making me feel like crap, treating me less then a boyfriend, nagging (nothing un-known there). Not to mention she would try an annoy me by saying how much she liked this Singer from some band.

She drove me mad.

Sounds like you're nuts. Don't know why you even continued to go out with her. Even if you did love her... it's evident it wasn't mutual.

My advice is that no-one can really give you advice.

Paradox alert! :O

Oh, and it's not true. Anyone can. But no-one will probably listen. Fact.

By all rights your meant to blunder into a relationship, and learn every stupid little thing about each other.

Another Fact. Experience seems to be the best way of learning things.

Unfortunately experience includes death...

Best of luck.

It sounds like he's running for the Grand National

 

[Phobie]

tbh. Girls are easy

Oh, and confidence > all.. no matter how much a girl says she doesn't like overconfident boys

I like how people are saying shit like "all girls think they represent ALL girls", when I'm seeing stuff like this!

 

[Darkside55]

Majority of girls posting on the internet do tend to think they represent all girls, hence they would not prefix their messages with, "Speaking as a girl," "as a female on this forum," "from a woman's point of view," etc.

 

[Druckles]

"all girls think they represent ALL girls"

What??

 

[Phobie]

It is somewhere I think. Unless I imagined it. Which is also possible.

 

[Druckles]

Oh, and yeah, girls do think that.

Men would think that, too, if there were fewer of them. But they don't need to, because they'll either argue among themselves (with a couple of thrown chairs), and/or agree with each other, in which case, they probably do.

 

[Darkside55]

Did I just hear something about thrown chairs?!

*Hefts a chair, but sees the thread is still on topic*

*Puts chair down, disheartened*

 

[Druckles]

Unless we start disagreeing with each other...

 

[noQ]

I am a hot lesbian woman.
I can send you naked pics of myself, but I will never have sex with you.

 

[nurizeko]

I was about to completely rail on you for being a complete pushover pussy, but then I read, "my last ex." I do hope it was you who ended that relationship and not the other way around.

Damn straight. :thumbs:

I did that most awesome of things usually only reserved for really manly movies where guys head butt other guys for showing any sign of weakness.

I killed any feelings I had for her and dump her in a cruel cold fashion that left no chance for her to even see a glimmer of hope that I any longer cared.


If it helps, she still tries to contact me now and then, lawl.


I got a Japanese stalker, yay?.

 

[Glirk Dient]

... What?

It's not about looks. It's nice if someone TAKES CARE of themselves, but that's different from being some faggy male model.

Oh yeah? Would you rather do justin timberlake or the nicest guy you ever met even though he is a fat slob living with his parents? Girls don't want a nice guy, you all say you do but there is no way you will see a girl with a guy like that.

 

[Solaris]

Girls don't want a nice guy. They want somebody who is cooler than themselves and fun.

 

[firenbrimstone]

Oh yeah? Would you rather do justin timberlake or the nicest guy you ever met even though he is a fat slob living with his parents? Girls don't want a nice guy, you all say you do but there is no way you will see a girl with a guy like that.

I feel sad about how wrong you are. You do know that every human is unique in one or another, right? We aren't all exact carbon copies of each other, right? Global generalizations just don't work. Ever. What works for you, will probably NOT work for me... or him... or her... we're different. Yay!

"No way".. how can you be so damn sure?

A stocky (fat slob.. nice descriptive *sigh*) guy who lives with his mom, because he's caring for her as she ages and saving towards buying his own home someday, and understands the concept of respect for others and the value of true emotional connections... that'd be lovely. Where do I sign up? JT could be hot as hell (which, I don't actually believe) but whenever he opens his mouth, all I hear is "Me, me, me, I, I, I". YAWN.

You, on the other hand, are obviously tormented by some previous (or current) romantic catastrophe...and are bitter, jaded, and all out derogatory. I'm sorry for that, truly. Your suffering shouldn't be a means for you to blanket the world with your dreary outlook on the opposite gender. Shit happens. Get over it.

When you aren't 12, you'll learn that it really isn't about looks in the long run. Sure, there has to be a spark--some sort of inner jolt...but, flaws quickly fade when you realize that inside, there's this amazing throbbing source of power... and NO, I mean a heart. And a brain. Those two wonderful items make up for a lot of exterior issues. They can make or break someone, in my eyes.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

One thing I've found in my travels is that, at least locally, women tend to subscribe to certain archetypes (and so do blokes, but different ones).

The ones I've observed are:

- The ones who's only goal in life is to end up with a succession of abusive boyfriends. I've never quite worked out why this category is so large, but I know I've actually been dumped for a dude who ended up slapping the lady about a bit.

- The obsessive ones. Another big category, these gals tend to stick in terrible relationships because they're scared of being alone. When you hook up with one, within a week she's telling you she loves you and emotionally blackmails you if you even hint that you're not happy in the current relationship. They tend to marry very young. This is a kind that tends to be attracted to me, for some reason.

- Chav girls. Don't go near them, because you'll catch something nasty.

- Users. There's an abnormally large number of these in my local area. They only stay with you (or, occasionally, even talk to you) because they want something you have. This is the kind I get screwed over by most, and for some reason this is the only other kind that I ever end up with, and makes up the majority of my ex-girlfriends. I was screwed out of a hundred pounds a while back (although I never hooked up with her). Last year I was used just so someone could get back at their ex-boyfriend. My first girlfriend, years ago, just had me as a placeholder who bought her expensive gifts until she met someone else (whom she banged while I was still with her, as far as I know).

- The untouchable croud, type 1. These girls are quite happy to be your friends, and would probably be everything you'd ever need as a girlfriend, but you're just a friend. And that's all you'll ever be. Worse, they'll fancy your brother, or go through a string of crap boyfriends and tell you everything about it.

- The untouchable croud, type 2. So full of themselves that they won't even talk to you.

- Women who would actually be the right person for you. A purely theoretical construct.

Disclaimer: This is an oversimplification of women, and is not intended to be offensive to our resident wimmenz. Who would probably be untouchable type 1s if you met them offline.

Edits: Yes, I'm jaded. Very jaded.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Beerdude26]

Girls don't want a nice guy. They want somebody who is cooler than themselves and fun.

But if she gets married and subsequently divorced when she realizes her husband has the intelligence and empathy of a ball of spikes, the guy will be paying the alimony.

So kids, look for people that you actually like physically AND mentally instead of looking for funpillows.

Edits: Yes, I'm jaded. Very jaded.

-Angry Lawyer

Awww Whenever I'm back in the UK I'll buy you a beer

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I'll also add that there are a few ways you can start getting attention from the better kind of womenz. Try taking up something like a musical instrument, or singing (get actual lessons, because otherwise you're going to sound awful) and do some performances. You'll open yourself up to a large croud of people who will actually go out of their way to talk to you, rather than you having to actually go and try to get through the typical hurdles put in front of you. I've been performing at open mic nights for the last six months as a singer, and you wouldn't believe the amount of attention you get.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Solaris]

Download/legally obtain "The Game" By Neil Strauss

 

[Glirk Dient]

I feel sad about how wrong you are. You do know that every human is unique in one or another, right? We aren't all exact carbon copies of each other, right? Global generalizations just don't work. Ever. What works for you, will probably NOT work for me... or him... or her... we're different. Yay!

"No way".. how can you be so damn sure?

A stocky (fat slob.. nice descriptive *sigh*) guy who lives with his mom, because he's caring for her as she ages and saving towards buying his own home someday, and understands the concept of respect for others and the value of true emotional connections... that'd be lovely. Where do I sign up? JT could be hot as hell (which, I don't actually believe) but whenever he opens his mouth, all I hear is "Me, me, me, I, I, I". YAWN.

You, on the other hand, are obviously tormented by some previous (or current) romantic catastrophe...and are bitter, jaded, and all out derogatory. I'm sorry for that, truly. Your suffering shouldn't be a means for you to blanket the world with your dreary outlook on the opposite gender. Shit happens. Get over it.

When you aren't 12, you'll learn that it really isn't about looks in the long run. Sure, there has to be a spark--some sort of inner jolt...but, flaws quickly fade when you realize that inside, there's this amazing throbbing source of power... and NO, I mean a heart. And a brain. Those two wonderful items make up for a lot of exterior issues. They can make or break someone, in my eyes.

We aren't talking about old people. Once people get old looks really don't matter. However for those of us that aren't 40 looks do mean a lot. As superficial as it sounds attraction is started with looks. No guy will walk up to a girl in a bar that he thinks takes care of her mom. No he will walk up to the good looking one he wants to take home.

No girl is gonna go home with a guy just because he he gives his mailman presents on christmas. No she is going home with the good looking confident guy. I am not saying that is all there is to it, but without finding the other person attractive they don't have much of a chance. How come girls never date the creepy stalker guys? They are pretty obsessive and I am sure will buy you flowers and open every door for you, why don't girls date that guy? They will treat you like a princess, isn't that all it takes? So what if he sits outside of your window every night.

From what I have seen the majority of the girls I pick up are girls I have known less than a day. I usually meet them at a party and they are already into me. I don't talk about how nice I am to my mother or the day I took my little brother to valleyfare so why would they be into me then if not because they find me attractive/confident/fun?