Understanding females - Hl2.net verison

Sad to say, but Glirk is right. The biggest hurdle in meeting someone is getting their attention. If you're good looking and confident, the door's pretty much already open for you. If you lack one of the above, it's a whole lot more difficult to get them to even notice you.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Glirk Dient said:
We aren't talking about old people. Once people get old looks really don't matter. However for those of us that aren't 40 looks do mean a lot. As superficial as it sounds attraction is started with looks. No guy will walk up to a girl in a bar that he thinks takes care of her mom. No he will walk up to the good looking one he wants to take home.

No girl is gonna go home with a guy just because he he gives his mailman presents on christmas. No she is going home with the good looking confident guy. I am not saying that is all there is to it, but without finding the other person attractive they don't have much of a chance. How come girls never date the creepy stalker guys? They are pretty obsessive and I am sure will buy you flowers and open every door for you, why don't girls date that guy? They will treat you like a princess, isn't that all it takes? So what if he sits outside of your window every night.

From what I have seen the majority of the girls I pick up are girls I have known less than a day. I usually meet them at a party and they are already into me. I don't talk about how nice I am to my mother or the day I took my little brother to valleyfare so why would they be into me then if not because they find me attractive/confident/fun?
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I'm not fourty either, thanks.

Pardon me for thinking that the OP was looking for some insight that was slightly more substantial and towards a goal of longevity rather then a one-night stand. You and I are talking about two completely different scenarios, hence the disconnect in opinions.

Had I been able to appropriately discern that you were referring to random lays, I'd have agreed quite rapidly. Ding-dong-ditch sex is completely about looks...or, blood alchohol content, or... pulse. Actual relationships that really matter in the long haul.. those are more complex. (And, if you notice, I did indicate that there needed to be a physical connection as well...I'm not arguing that fact, I'm just expanding on the idea that there's more to it)

What's with the "They will treat you like a princess, isn't that all it takes?"??? No, that's not all it takes. For some maybe, for all... no. I thought I'd warned you about global generalizations... *sigh*
 
But consider this - how many possible actual relationships have you missed because you just didn't notice that quiet guy in the corner who didn't have the guts to tell you how pretty he thought you looked?

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
But consider this - how many possible actual relationships have you missed because you just didn't notice that quiet guy in the corner who didn't have the guts to tell you how pretty he thought you looked?

-Angry Lawyer
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Well, I'm pretty sure not many...since I'd be more apt to be the one in the corner. To be honest, I'd never considered that scenario.

And, it works both ways. How many have you missed because you didn't notice the girl who couldn't help but shyly look your way, knowing full well you'd look right past her?

Wait... I think we are almost in agreement on this. How'd that happen?
 
I'm an agreeable dude.

I used to get caught in situations like that all the time. I used to be quite the wallflower (it's only in the last year or two that I've really actively thought "Screw it" and started really asserting myself) and I've only recently found a look that actually makes me look good. Because I do know the same goes for women, too, though, I do always make an effort to talk to the quiet girls.

But it still supports Glirk's statement - looks and confidence are typically the spark that starts the fire. Unless you get to know a quiet person over a long period, in which case personality trumps. But you never know everything about someone when you only briefly see them.

-Angry Lawyer
 
In theory, I agree...I think I just naturally take offense when people throw out generalizations about things so personal.

I'll go back to my corner now, I've been out for far too long.

Of course, now, in my head--amongst the rest of the random, all I hear is "She's Got The Look" by Roxette. Damn.
 
All I can hear is "(Splash) Turn Twist" by Jimmy Eat World, but that's because it was the last song I listened to on my drive home.

But, you know damn well us menz are generalized against - we're all either jocks, nerds, geeks, or some sort of popular music scene member.

I'll agree with women when they say that our minds are dominated by sex, though. Because it's true.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Actually, it's 90% having the cajones to actually talk to them in the first place :p

-Angry Lawyer
 
Isn't that just a dozen words that mean the same thing as "confidence"? :p
 
CrazyHarij said:
roxette is the worst swedish export product ever
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What? No. No f-ing way. They were THE best thing since sliced bread, back in the day. I even have some of their stuff in my iPod rotation now, just for laughs and because it's pure joy to belt out "Listen To Your Heart" whilst driving.

I'm sure you meant Ace of Base. All is forgiven.

Oh, does this count as thread de-railment? Can Darkside throw his chair now?
 
Listen to Your Heart is such an awesome song, and I am willing to accept a week-long revocation of my mancard for that.

Liiisten to your hear! *dummm! dummm!* When it's all you can doo!

-Angry Lawyer
 
Looks mean almost nothing for guys getting laid.
If your not socially skilled enough then you can get laid with looks, but being ugly is no excuse for not getting the hottest girls unless you're deformed or very obese.
 
stigmata: yeah i think so. confidence is when youre not questioning yourself because youre all too occupied with doing what you feel like, expressing your own opinions and not giving a **** about the rest. "do, or do not. there is no try", like our old green buddy once said.
 
i dont think the whole "say confident things, walk in a confident manner" works because you're still being self conscious and ultimately uncomfortable with yourself. people pick up on that. when youre comfortable enough to not give a damn and just acting the way you want, thats when you hit the sweet spot.
 
Women are exactly like men, except that - generally - they're not funny.
 
"women are such teases. that'a why i went back to men."
- ???

guess who said it and you get... mhmmmmhnunnnnmmun.


we are here to steal your cash and look pretty.

except for fat chics. **** fat chics.
on second thought.. no.
dont.
 
CrazyHarij said:
i dont think the whole "say confident things, walk in a confident manner" works because you're still being self conscious and ultimately uncomfortable with yourself. people pick up on that. when youre comfortable enough to not give a damn and just acting the way you want, thats when you hit the sweet spot.
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Its a mental thing. You can't say "OK I am gonna act confident, even though deep down inside I know I have no chance".

Instead say "I got this, this girl is already into me".

Also it helps to have a plan. B.S. for a while and when you feel ready have a couple lines ready that will lead into you asking her on a date.

Such as...

I just got a new movie, have you seen ?
She will most likely say No...or at least you better hope
You should totally come over and watch it on my new TV cause I hate watching movies alone...we could plan a movie night.
She should then act interested
Yeah...we could make it a PJ movie night and go to cub and rent movies and buy ice cream. It will be lots of fun I promise.

Most girls will fall for that. Once you have them lured in just be yourself and have fun!
 
totally true man. movie nights are soo evil.. *end boss laughter*
 
Glirk Dient said:
Its a mental thing. You can't say "OK I am gonna act confident, even though deep down inside I know I have no chance".

Instead say "I got this, this girl is already into me".

Also it helps to have a plan. B.S. for a while and when you feel ready have a couple lines ready that will lead into you asking her on a date.

Such as...

I just got a new movie, have you seen ?
She will most likely say No...or at least you better hope
You should totally come over and watch it on my new TV cause I hate watching movies alone...we could plan a movie night.
She should then act interested
Yeah...we could make it a PJ movie night and go to cub and rent movies and buy ice cream. It will be lots of fun I promise.

Most girls will fall for that. Once you have them lured in just be yourself and have fun!
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GENIOUS.
 
Right, up until the: "Once you have them lured in" part... then, the plot derails and it's an entirely different vignette in the mind.
 
Yeah, it's a weird way of turning the conversation. It's not so much about luring other people in rather than accepting yourself - luring tends to end up with "So, I've attracted him/her, what do I do now?", whereas being yourself has a bit more to stand on.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
Yeah, it's a weird way of turning the conversation. It's not so much about luring other people in rather than accepting yourself - luring tends to end up with "So, I've attracted him/her, what do I do now?", whereas being yourself has a bit more to stand on.

-Angry Lawyer
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I suppose, it depends on the person. You gotta find out what works for you.

jimbo118 said:
lol what? what kind of age group are you going for?
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Seeing as how I am 21 and that idea still works ever time...I would say the majority of the people here won't be old enough for it to not work.
 
The trick of understanding women is realising that they cannot actually read minds and they do not truly understand men, just as men will never truly understand women.

Example. Most of the women I know make a point of commenting when I have had my hair cut. They do this, because they want me to see how considerate they are in doing so - so that I may act in kind, and they may also want me to feel good about myself, with my new look.

I cut my hair with clippers, because I'm going bald. The last thing I want people to talk about, is the state of my hair.


GHB is involved somewhere as well, I think. But that sort of thing is usually left until the first date.
 
Glirk Dient said:
Seeing as how I am 21 and that idea still works ever time...I would say the majority of the people here won't be old enough for it to not work.
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Erm... what's the age range of the women you are trying to... "lure"... with a PJ movie party that includes ice cream?

Not accusatory, really just sickly fascinated.
 
i doubt they had ice cream when the bible was written

your main argument is INVALID
 
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