Beastiality

[Fat Tony!]

Yeah okay fine I guess there is nothing wrong with it apart from the fact it is an exceedingly disgusting act. Which is why we don't do it.

 

[kirovman]

It's a rather bestial act. Hohoho!

 

[Ikerous]

Yeah okay fine I guess there is nothing wrong with it apart from the fact it is an exceedingly disgusting act. Which is why we don't do it.

Pretty much

 

[Anthraxxx]

Yay! Beastiality!!! FTW!!!

/jk... even though I voted for 'fine by me' i'm just being stupid....

Pedophilia and Necrophilia FTW!!!!

 

[JNightshade]

Yay sweeping generalizations!!! :|

Honestly, I'm amazed at how few people are willing to just chill and let people do their thing.

Although, I must admit, Ikerous has some weeeeeeeird taste in topics

 

[Ikerous]

^_^ They're quite fun though, no?

 

[JNightshade]

I'll admit that

 

[xcellerate]

Although, I must admit, Ikerous has some weeeeeeeird taste in topics

it was probably one of those things where he was watching his usual early morning porn to warm up for his usual mid afternoon porn, and in his video there was this really hot girl doing really hot things, when suddenly a dog walked onto the set. He was still really turned on, and was able to block out the dog for the most part, but felt wierd still watching it, so he decided to come here to figure out how he should feel about the hot girl on dog action.

My $0.02.

 

[Ikerous]

You know me too well

 

[MiccyNarc]

WTMFFFFFFFFFFF!!!
/sputters incoherently
It's quite apparent that absolutely none of you work on a farm. If you did, the poll results would all be 100% AGAINST bestiality.

Cows are disgusting, DISGUSTING animals, and ANYONE that has sex with a cow is completely messed in the head and should become one of the heard, to be sent off to a slaughterhouse, packaged up, and fed to dogs. >.<
O.M.G.

GAH!
/gouges eyes out to distract his mind from the disgusting mental picture

/calms down

Okay folks, here's the down low on the sticking of hands up cows butts.
#1. They hate it, unless it's that time of month.
#2. At that time of month, they're completely controlled by hormones. They hump other cows, other females hump them, and of course the bulls do their duty. So even if you nail them in that time of month it's really not consent as they still have no choice in the matter (which is why on the Discovery channel they hold still for the vets)
#3. The crap that comes out of their butts and vaginas is some of the most disgusting stuff you'll ever see on this planet. Take [insert disgusting shock site here!] and multiply it by 1000x.
What's worst is when the uterous falls out. Helping shove that back in there was one job I refused to do.

Anyway, in summary, DON'T SCREW COWS. Or any animals for that matter.

 

[Ikerous]

So basically it's really really gross?
I completely agree XD
I'm just saying that it isn't immoral or wrong

 

[secret friend]

Larry Flint lost his virginity to a chicken, and look how succesful he is.

 

[Raziaar]

Ya, its definitely gross. But with a condom it can at least be hygenic (Despite get cow shit all over you). As for abuse of power, it seems far more abusive to kill the animal cuz it's tastey than it does to screw it (assuming theres no pain invovlved in either). And it really isn't all that different than forcing the animal to do anything else :/ It just seems that because we get pleasuer from it that it's wrong but if we don't get pleasure from it then it's okay (ie a guard dog) Although we get pleasure from owning pets. So maybe not. Perhaps its just wrong cuz its sexual pleasure? But does that actually make it wrong, or are we just stigmatized against sexual gratification?

We're omnivores dude... It is in our NATURE to kill and eat meat, as well as plant life. It's just that we do it in a human, systematic way these days, and not for sustenance.


By the way Ikerous... since you're so into beastiality, you should check out a donkey show. Nasty stuff.

 

[Ikerous]

By the way Ikerous... since you're so into beastiality, you should check out a donkey show. Nasty stuff.

I think I've made it quite clear I think bestiality is disgusting :/
About a dozen times...

 

[Raziaar]

I think I've made it quite clear I think bestiality is disgusting :/
About a dozen times...

You're just saying that to cover yourself

 

[el Chi]

It's how so many STDs came to fruition.....and AID's for that matter.

That's unproven. Whilst it's true that the HIV virus did most likely originate in Chimpanzees, its transfer to humans was far more likely to do with blood-letting in rituals and bites, etc. than it was to do with bestiality.
But I digress.
It's not pleasant and it's not one of those sexual fetishes where I'd be like "Well, whatever you do on your own time..."
I find it wrong, but as for its morality - well that's another matter and, to be honest, I'm undecided.

 

[the_wolf27]

Apart from the fact that you can catch diseases, and that its cruel to animals. ITs also very F*UCKED UP. Anyone that would go a peice of cow ass over a humans has some serious, very f*ucking serious problems.

 

[Ikerous]

Apart from the fact that you can catch diseases, and that its cruel to animals.

Are you referring to the topic example?
Because neither of those are problems in the cow screwing issue

 

[Raziaar]

I don't like your logic, Ikerous. The world would be a worse off place than it is, if everybody took that logic. Poor animals... You exploit them just because they don't know any better? That's twisted, dude.

 

[Ikerous]

I don't like your logic, Ikerous.

It may not be the happiest logic, but I dont see anywhere I've gone wrong

You exploit them just because they don't know any better? That's twisted, dude.

Well if you take that small part out of context yes.. it does sound quite twisted
Because if you hear that then you'd imply it's okay to screw children
but it's all the other reasons combined that really doesn't make it that bad

 

[Raziaar]

No... i'm not putting human children anywhere into the mix here... I just think its completely ****ed up that you think the world's animals are our sex toys, justifiably simply because they won't feel pain or won't know what's going on... those being your assumptions. Animals are smart you know... they have instincts, they know when they are having sex with a member of their species, vs sex with something entirely different. Animals have that cognitive ability to distinguish between species. Why else do you think wild animals flee if they see you coming, or bite you if you try to handle them?

 

[Ikerous]

No... i'm not putting human children anywhere into the mix here... I just think its completely ****ed up that you think the world's animals are our sex toys, justifiably simply because they won't feel pain or won't know what's going on... those being your assumptions.

Well.. then why is it wrong?

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

What is it with people thinking animals don't know better?
Have you ever tried to **** a bengal tiger or mountain lion? Feisty.
Trust me if an animal didn't want to be ****ed it would kick your face off. They know it and they like it.
/thread

 

[Raziaar]

Well.. then why is it wrong?

Dude... society, laws, morality. These are the things why it is wrong, why it is taboo. We humans have evolved to be able to develop these things for ourselves, and you're completely ignoring them.

You're going to keep saying the same thing you're saying to EVERY thing somebody here says to you, as if you're somehow right just because you feel you are. You talk about humans having rights, yet you ignore the other areas of humanity where this exact thing is wrong. WE are the reasons why it is wrong. We impose these things upon ourselves, as our intelligence expands about the world around us.

 

[Ikerous]

Dude... society, laws, morality. These are the things why it is wrong, why it is taboo. We humans have evolved to be able to develop these things for ourselves, and you're completely ignoring them.

I think that we can logically conclude if something is wrong or not
And we haven't evolved to tell these things for ourselves, we've been conditioned to assume such things
And I'm not a fan of assumptions.. I'd rather base my ideas on some logical conclusion

You're going to keep saying the same thing you're saying to EVERY thing somebody here says to you, as if you're somehow right just because you feel you are. You talk about humans having rights, yet you ignore the other areas of humanity where this exact thing is wrong.

I'd really appreciate an example
I don't feel that I've done either of those

 

[99.vikram]

Look around you, Ikerous. You have destroyed so much. What is it exactly that you have created? Can you name even one thing? I thought not.

I'm back w00t! This thread is on fire!! :sniper:

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

What is it exactly that you have created?

Discussion?

 

[Raziaar]

Fine, **** it Ikerous, you win. Animals have absolutely no rights. Kill them all. Rape them, abuse them for sexual pleasure, breed them for their fur and other commodities, wholesale slaughter them for a gluttonous lifestyle. I don't care. They're stupid, they don't know any better... and as a collective whole they're not privy to what's happening to them. So do whatever you want then to them, if that's how you feel, if you feel they are just objects for us to use in ways other than a small part of our food source.

 

[Ikerous]

Animals have absolutely no rights

I'm completely opposed to hurting animals

Lol @ the gman quote
But learn to spell my name :flame:

 

[Raziaar]

I'm completely opposed to animal abuse

By the very definition of the word, it's abuse. Abuse being misuse. But... **** it, i'm done with it all.

 

[99.vikram]

Discussion?

Discussion that has meandered pointlessly for 13 pages?

Sorry, Ikerous :dork:

 

[Ikerous]

By the very definition of the word, it's abuse. Abuse being misuse. But... **** it, i'm done with it all.

I realized that and quickly changed it to hurting animals to make myself more clear

Why do you get so heated about this?
This is nothing more than an attempt to learn and find a conclusion based on logic
I can't see why it'd lead to any bad feelings :/

Discussion that has meandered pointlessly for 13 pages?

Sorry, Ikerous :dork:

Pointless for you maybe.
I've learned from this thread and I like to think at least a few other people might've learned something as well

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Discussion that has meandered pointlessly for 13 pages?

Sorry, Ikerous :dork:

I've only read like 3 or 4 of them so it's all still very new to me.

 

[99.vikram]

Ikerous, you know as well as I do that this won't lead to a conclusion. There are very interesting points here, but in the last few pages the arguments have mostly been the same.

 

[Ikerous]

Ikerous, you know as well as I do that this won't lead to a conclusion. There are very interesting points here, but in the last few pages the arguments have mostly been the same.

I've pretty much made my conclusion, and I believe it has a fairly firm basis
Although that by no means I'm not willing to change it if a good counterpoint is made

And the arguments have been the exact same throughout most of the thread :/
A lot of people don't really like reading long ass threads before posting their opinion

 

[99.vikram]

I've pretty much made my conclusion, and I believe it has a fairly firm basis
Although that by no means I'm not willing to change it if a good counterpoint is made

And the arguments have been the exact same throughout most of the thread :/
A lot of people don't really like reading long ass threads before posting their opinion

I meant an end-all conclusion

If nothing else at least I'm beginning to understand your perspective.

 

[Ikerous]

I meant an end-all conclusion

Ya, with issues like this, or really any issue, it's hard to come to a conclusion thats completely satisfying for everyone

If nothing else at least I'm beginning to understand your perspective.

See ^_^ The thread wasn't so pointless afterall then

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Logic and morals don't always mix perfectly.

I know it has been said already but you could use the same logic you're applying to having sex with animals to having sex with a comatose girl. That logic is

1. The victim wouldn't feel anything
2. You wouldn't contract a disease due to protection
3. You wouldn't tell the victim what happened after if they ever wake up

Personally, my morals superseed any logical justification of certain issues. Having sex with animals for example. The argument is quite pointless at this stage because you don't seem to believe in morals that's can't be justified with specific reasons, you believe in logical reasoning as to why something shouldn't be done. As has been covered, morals are sometimes based on logical reasoning, sometimes it's based on something far more instinctive and undefinable.

Like raziarr said

The world would be a worse off place than it is, if everybody took that logic.

I totally agree.

I'm glad the lawmakers of this world and society as a whole don't always use logical reasoning for the application of morals and laws. I'm glad they rely on gut instinct.

 

[Ikerous]

Logic and morals don't always mix perfectly.

I know it has been said already but you could use the same logic you're applying to having sex with animals to having sex with a comatose girl. That logic is

1. The victim wouldn't feel anything
2. You wouldn't contract a disease due to protection
3. You wouldn't tell the victim what happened after if they ever wake up

Consent

As has been covered, morals are sometimes based on logical reasoning, sometimes it's based on something far more instinctive and undefinable.

Are they instinctive, or socially conditioned?

And if someone did screw a cow, you can't just say "What you are doing is wrong because my gut says so."
There has to be a reason behind it... or we could conclude that things like being gay is wrong because my stomache doesnt like it

 

[B_MAN]

if thats your bag baby